[wonderer1]

Hi All,

I am from south Asian decent, Pakistan. Im planning my next trip to EE for August however I am worried about Racism, I was considering Belgrade at the top of my list but now Im unsure due to racism. I was also considering Vilnius and Tallinn. I would be doing lots of daygame.

Does anyone have any info? Are there any EE countries I should definitely avoid in the future, or is this all just in my head?

and while im on the topic are there actually any EE countries I could do better in?

[LINUX]

I don't see you doing well in Belgrade. I definitely don't see you doing well in Budapest. You might get lucky in Kiev, especially if you have some money. Bucharest -- probably not going to happen either. Don't know a thing about Poland.

Goodluck

[Ultimate Wingman]

While I do not want to paint fairy tales and believe any man should be aware of your surroundings and deal with facts, I will say that if you are FOCUSED on a certain energy, you're gonna be more likely to attract it vs staying focused on positives.

Meaning that if you think you're gonna suck, comments like the one Linux mentioned (which he meant to help you) will affect you vs another SE Asian who went there knowing and confident he'd kill it there where a 100 ppl will say he'll fail but homeboy will still pull. Will someone get 100 notches, maybe not, but I'll tell you that the guy who's FOCUSING on success will find that % that will convert vs the guy who has already visualized failure.

BE THE OUTLIER.

[Travesty]

It would be hard in Belgrade, though they are more open to darker foreigners due to Ottoman genes in some of the population than other places in EE.

Romania from what I saw would be harder overall, though in Romania when you meet a girl that likes you sex would come faster than Belgrade. You would have many many more blowouts though than Belgrade.

From what I've read Poland, Slovenia, Croatia, Estonia would be the places in EE that are more open to darker skin without the Turk/Gypsy/Arab alarms going off.

[Sephiroth]

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[Cobra]

I don't know a thing about EE but grew up in the US and am 100% Indian of the darker variety. White girls have been fond enough of me here but my style is excellent and I generally take good care of myself. Not to mention my accent is very American.

A lot of your success depends on your style and how you carry yourself. If you're from India, this is the real problem. If you're westernized, I believe it can be much easier.

From your grammar, I sense you're not very westernized. Feel free to post more about yourself and you'll get better answers. The forum is not here to help you if you can't help yourself.

[teddy bear]

Well, I can speak for Poland only, but you should have no problems here. Poland is slowly getting westernized and in bigger cities it won't be a big deal. If you intend to live in small cities, you may get weird looks and different, unpleasant vibe. Stick to bigger cities and avoid football matches. Also pay attention to style, much more than other people. Good luck.

[Jungle]

(06-27-2017 02:48 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

Hi All,

I am from south Asian decent, Pakistan. Im planning my next trip to EE for August however I am worried about Racism, I was considering Belgrade at the top of my list but now Im unsure due to racism. I was also considering Vilnius and Tallinn. I would be doing lots of daygame.

Does anyone have any info? Are there any EE countries I should definitely avoid in the future, or is this all just in my head?

and while im on the topic are there actually any EE countries I could do better in?

How is your level of game and SMV?

Your question is too ambiguous without telling us more about yourself.

Generally-speaking, EE is a little bit more for "advanced" fellas than Latin America or Asia.... EE women are a bit more selective then Asian women for example, especially because there is a higher level of male competition in EE compared to Asia IMO. These are generalisations though, and each country and culture will have their own unique intricacies.

Here's the simple fact of the matter... If you've got a high level of game and high SMV then you'll do well anywhere in EE, in fact you'll do well anywhere on this planet. If you've got a low level of game and SMV then you'll struggle in EE, and perhaps even display racism by blaming your lack of success on baseless "racism".

[Alexandrian]

I think you are going to have more luck in Vilnius and Tallinn than in Belgrade.

[Pointer]

(06-27-2017 05:36 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

It would be hard in Belgrade, though they are more open to darker foreigners due to Ottoman genes in some of the population than other places in EE.

Romania from what I saw would be harder overall, though in Romania when you meet a girl that likes you sex would come faster than Belgrade. You would have many many more blowouts though than Belgrade.

From what I've read Poland, Slovenia, Croatia, Estonia would be the places in EE that are more open to darker skin without the Turk/Gypsy/Arab alarms going off.

I've met one Turk and one Arab doing well in Poland. No beards, good fashion style and solid game will work but expect less options vs the average Polish/white guy.

[churros]

OP: "Racism" and sexual preference are not the same thing. Racism is the systematic exclusion of one certain race from power and wealth.

Because of class associations, your value is lower in white countries, and higher in others. Sexual desire is penetrated by these social realities. You desire white girls, unconsciously, because of their higher status, unattainability etc.

So if a girl does not like your brown ass, it has nothing to do with racism. I like Asian girls, so am I racist against whites?

You might indeed be higher-class, educated etc. Then you have to overcome prejudices i.e. pre-judgements which everybody experiences, for better or worse. Be sensible and stop using SJW lingo.

[Mr Pancho]

I hope you leave Islam in Pakistan because Islam plans on destroying Europe. Are you traveling to europe with bad intentions?

Islamophobia is not racism.

[wonderer1]

Thanks for responses so far. Let me clarify my OP, the question was two fold, I was asking about actual racisim, doing daygame as a south asian of brown skin colour, could I experience any animosity from locals whilst daygaming their women, or any danger of violence. Im sorry if im completely ignorant, and dont mean to offend anyone, its a genuine question. My second question was about where I could actually do better off in EE with my skin colour, if anywhere at all.

About me: I was born and raised in England, I am educated to degree level, and have a decent paid job in the pharma industry. I dress well, I love fashion, always have. My instagram is me in cool places with my outfits and I often get DM's and comments on my clothes. I like high end fashion.

I do have a beard, although not a long one, it is trimmed and kept in good condition, I also have a "western" hair cut, side swept with short back and sides, much longer on top.

My level of game is not high, Ive gotten a few lays through daygame, But I still want to have a go at abroad and experience this, even if I come back empty handed every time, I am putting in the effort and practicing my game.

[wonderer1]

(06-27-2017 05:36 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

It would be hard in Belgrade, though they are more open to darker foreigners due to Ottoman genes in some of the population than other places in EE.

Romania from what I saw would be harder overall, though in Romania when you meet a girl that likes you sex would come faster than Belgrade. You would have many many more blowouts though than Belgrade.

From what I've read Poland, Slovenia, Croatia, Estonia would be the places in EE that are more open to darker skin without the Turk/Gypsy/Arab alarms going off.

Why would Belgrade by difficult?

[Lermontov]

Black man here. I'd suggest Moscow or Minsk if you're willing to go through the visa procedures. I have been to both but I speak fluent russian. Belarus might be one of the safest country in eastern Europe and it's not racist. If you stay central in Moscow, you shouldn't have any issue with security. Girls will be very glad and excited to practice their english with you.

English knowledge in Minsk is probably worse than in Moscow.

You'd be exotic in Minsk.

I have been three times in Russia in different cities and even in some villages and I don't think that Russians are racist.

Moscow is so big, populated and packed that the possibilities of daygame are endless. The average russian is broke and in August people are walking around in the city a lot just to hang out.

Overall, I think that a well groomed south asian could do well in those cities. They love dark men out there, and not just black ones.