[WalterBlack]

ADOPTION ROW Brit couple to sue after being told to adopt a child from India rather than the UK ‘because they’re Asian’

[In UK "Asian" refers to South Asians = Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan]

Quote:

A BRITISH couple who say they were stopped from adopting a white child because they are of Asian heritage are planning to sue.

Sandeep and Reena Mander wanted to raise a youngster from any ethnic background.





The UK-born couple were assessed by Adopt Berkshire, which visited their home and told them they were suitable as parents in every respect except race.

They claim they were told not to bother applying as the agency had only white youngsters on its books and white British or European applicants would get priority. The policy is lawful.

The Manders, who have tried IVF 16 times, allege they were told to adopt from India instead despite having no close links to the country.

Businessman Mr Mander told The Times: “What we didn’t expect was refusal for us to even apply for adoption, not because of our incapability to adopt, but because our cultural heritage was defined as ‘Indian/Pakistani’.”

The Manders claim they are victims of discrimination in the provision of services.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission is backing their fight.



Adopt Berkshire, run by the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead, did not comment but says on its website it tries to match a child’s “culture and religious heritage” with those of prospective adopters.

It adds that children are not kept waiting solely to “achieve a direct match”.

What do you guys think of this? Are you OK with them adopting them white kids? There's plenty of examples of white people adopting kids of other ethnicities.

[Baphomet]

I'm trying to imagine how I could possibly care less.

Oh, and WB.

[WalterBlack]

(06-27-2017 01:16 PM)Baphomet Wrote:  

I'm trying to imagine how I could possibly care less.

Oh, and WB.

You cared enough to comment about it

[Cobra]

They seem westernized and appear to have class. So I don't foresee a problem as long as they raise the kid well.

I was hoping instead that I would open the thread to magically see the beginnings of the first white IRT.

Alas!

[Baphomet]

(06-27-2017 01:18 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:16 PM)Baphomet Wrote:  

I'm trying to imagine how I could possibly care less.

Oh, and WB.

You cared enough to comment about it

You asked, "What do you guys think of this? Are you OK with them adopting them white kids?"

I answered. Were you just being rhetorical?

[Brother Abdul Majeed]

That's stupid. They seem to look like a healthy normal heterosexual couple. If they are suitable as parents in every respect (as the agency stated), then race shouldn't matter at all.
Some poor white kid who could have had them as parents is going to end up with a couple of "genderqueer" lesbians or a couple of faggots as parents instead.

[kosko]

If adoption is the route a couple must take I don't have issues with it. Much better to provide a child with a caring home with traditional parents that are committed to it. I have many friends who have ben adopted and their parents made them all the top priority and they turned out fine (aside from the stress of not knowing who their maternal parents were).

This idea of race and adoption is taboo and comes up from time to time. It is taboo in the sense because white parents make up the large bulk of adoptions. Ethnic couples are a small percentage of those who adopt so cases like this creep up. There is an expectation that ethnic parents take on kids of their same background but this is not feasible in many cases and many times these parents just want a healthy kid to take care of. But again, it is taboo, because many white families will request a white kid, so is this just the agency going off their standard protocol? Who knows.

To me, I don't really care who the parents are as long as they want to do a good job and are male and female. The kid also, I don't think it matters as the alternative for the kid is foster care and to end up a fuck up of the public system in that regards.

I personally would think it would be much more smooth to raise a kid up who looks like you but I really don't think it matters. The kid will grow an attachment to whoever is providing it with its care.

[WalterBlack]

(06-27-2017 01:19 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

They seem westernized and appear to have class. So I don't foresee a problem as long as they raise the kid well.

I was hoping instead that I would open the thread to magically see the beginnings of the first white IRT.

Alas!

The IRT infestation is more prevalent in the US than the UK.

Just about every UK Indian under the age of 45 was born and raised there. Immigration from India stopped in the late 1960s/early 1970s. I never knew a single Indian of my age who wasn't UK born.

(06-27-2017 01:27 PM)kosko Wrote:  

To me, I don't really care who the parents are as long as they want to do a good job and are male and female.

The UK has so many left wing cunts in power, a white faggot couple would probably be prioritised over this couple.

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

Quote:

The Manders, who have tried IVF 16 times, allege they were told to adopt from India instead despite having no close links to the country.

Holy crap! That many IVF sessions would have cost somewhere on the order of $300k! The drugs used during the egg retrieval can be brutal. That woman is a trooper if she put up with that for 16 times.

[Atlanta Man]

She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

He should let me fuck her and see if she gets pregnant.....

[Suits]

(06-27-2017 01:40 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

He should let me fuck her and see if she gets pregnant.....

Why not?

After all, they said that they don't care what color skin their kid has.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(06-27-2017 01:18 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:16 PM)Baphomet Wrote:  

I'm trying to imagine how I could possibly care less.

Oh, and WB.

You cared enough to comment about it

All pictures of bangable women on RVF are fair game for a WB post.

Oh, and WB.

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

(06-27-2017 01:40 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

She does not look so old that IVF would be needed, I wonder what the issue is?

Could be PCOS (which isn't that uncommon), bad eggs (not unknown in young women), or have issues with her uterus (mucus wall too thin) which is generally not age dependent.

[lex the impaler]

But it's ok for white suburban women and their cucked husband's to adopt designer African kids to virtue signal?

[Number one bummer]

I have white family members that were told they were not going to be able to have children of their own. This was in the 1980's and there was still a large amount of Korean orphans so they adopted two boys. They adopted a black girl with severe metal issues who had low chances at ending up anywhere but prison if she stayed in the system. Ironically, when they reached their 40's they got pregnant and had a kid. One of the rare "change of life" babies.

That's why I'm slow to right people off as virtue signalers, especially of the kid grows up to be successful, as I saw in my family. The gender-queer abused kids being raised by Satanist Hollywood is another topic. I'm surprised the UK allows for adoptive services to deny adoptions based on races of parties involved. I think they should be allowed to adopt any child they are deemed qualified to raise. The amount of abuse and sexual abuse in orphan systems and foster homes is scary.

[BelyyTigr]

Well I was told by someone who was in social services in England that smokers are banned from adopting kids. However, sodomites ARE allowed to adopt kids. How fucked up is that?

Also the same person applied for a job at a charity that specialised in having kids adopted by faggots.
They actually got paid "per adoption sold". One of their tactics? Visit faggot parades and "sell" adoption of kids to sodomites.

Its fucking disgusting.

[scotian]

Who cares what colour the adopting family is as long as they aren't a couple of queers!

[BelyyTigr]

(06-27-2017 01:13 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

ADOPTION ROW Brit couple to sue after being told to adopt a child from India rather than the UK ‘because they’re Asian’

[In UK "Asian" refers to South Asians = Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan]

Quote:

A BRITISH couple who say they were stopped from adopting a white child because they are of Asian heritage are planning to sue.

Sandeep and Reena Mander wanted to raise a youngster from any ethnic background.





The UK-born couple were assessed by Adopt Berkshire, which visited their home and told them they were suitable as parents in every respect except race.

They claim they were told not to bother applying as the agency had only white youngsters on its books and white British or European applicants would get priority. The policy is lawful.

The Manders, who have tried IVF 16 times, allege they were told to adopt from India instead despite having no close links to the country.

Businessman Mr Mander told The Times: “What we didn’t expect was refusal for us to even apply for adoption, not because of our incapability to adopt, but because our cultural heritage was defined as ‘Indian/Pakistani’.”

The Manders claim they are victims of discrimination in the provision of services.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission is backing their fight.



Adopt Berkshire, run by the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead, did not comment but says on its website it tries to match a child’s “culture and religious heritage” with those of prospective adopters.

It adds that children are not kept waiting solely to “achieve a direct match”.

What do you guys think of this? Are you OK with them adopting them white kids? There's plenty of examples of white people adopting kids of other ethnicities.

I only scanned the main article. Until I saw the name "Reema" I thought the woman was white with a suntan.

Anyway, it makes perfect sense that they adopt a South Asian and not a white kid. Its NOT a "racist" or "racial supremacist" view before anyone asks. They aren't of British extraction, they don't have British cultural background or history etc. The idea is that kids blend in with their adoptive parents. Plus imagine the grief a white kid would have with Asian parents (from all races!). Besides the kid should be free to live without others thinking "I reckon he's adopted".

Likewise I think its really wrong that former Soviet Union kids are adopted by people who know nothing of USSR culture.

Once again the Orwellian "politically correct" garbage is persecuting people for showing common sense and values by supporting these 2 against a sensible agency.

PS look at the newspaper article "they have no close links with India". Hmm APART FROM BEING INDIAN!!!
Must've been a spastic who wrote it.

[BelyyTigr]

If I was adopted by people outside my own ancestry (due to anti British fanatic policies) I'd grow up to feel like I was the victim of child abuse. Because it WOULD BE a form of child abuse.

[WalterBlack]

(06-27-2017 02:47 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  

I only scanned the main article. Until I saw the name "Reema" I thought the woman was white with a suntan.

Anyway, it makes perfect sense that they adopt a South Asian and not a white kid. Its NOT a "racist" or "racial supremacist" view before anyone asks. They aren't of British extraction, they don't have British cultural background or history etc. The idea is that kids blend in with their adoptive parents. Plus imagine the grief a white kid would have with Asian parents (from all races!). Besides the kid should be free to live without others thinking "I reckon he's adopted".

Likewise I think its really wrong that former Soviet Union kids are adopted by people who know nothing of USSR culture.

Once again the Orwellian "politically correct" garbage is persecuting people for showing common sense and values by supporting these 2 against a sensible agency.

PS look at the newspaper article "they have no close links with India". Hmm APART FROM BEING INDIAN!!!
Must've been a spastic who wrote it.

There are people of Indian heritage outside of India whose families have been outside of India for multiple generations, so they may not have much connection to India. My parents were from India, and I was born and raised in UK. I barely have any relatives left in India since most of them live in western countries. The last time I went to India I had to stay in a hotel because I had no relatives to stay with.

I have a friend whose family moved from India to Mauritius nearly 200 years ago - he has no idea where his ancestral village is and he has no family in India.

Sometimes people end up looking unlike one of their real parents - I used to go to school with a kid who I thought was white, until I saw his black father. I thought my Mauritian friend was fully Indian until I saw his Chinese mother.

So the fact that this couple who were (both almost certainly born and raised in UK, act British and seem very integrated means that they have no British culture in them?

I live in the US and most days I watch British TV, read British websites, drink PG Tips tea, speak with a British accent and spell words British style - I guess I'm one of those brown skinned immigrants who refuses to assimilate into American culture

[BelyyTigr]

(06-27-2017 01:28 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 01:19 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

They seem westernized and appear to have class. So I don't foresee a problem as long as they raise the kid well.

I was hoping instead that I would open the thread to magically see the beginnings of the first white IRT.

Alas!

The IRT infestation is more prevalent in the US than the UK.

Just about every UK Indian under the age of 45 was born and raised there. Immigration from India stopped in the late 1960s/early 1970s. I never knew a single Indian of my age who wasn't UK born.

(06-27-2017 01:27 PM)kosko Wrote:  

To me, I don't really care who the parents are as long as they want to do a good job and are male and female.

The UK has so many left wing cunts in power, a white faggot couple would probably be prioritised over this couple.

The South Asian influx was generally after the Afro Caribbean one. So the 1st large Indian wave was 1960s and some 1970s. There was a new very large wave that started during the Blair era and carries on today. But also, families of the 60s and 70s ones came in throughout the years since the 1960s. And you had special groups like doctors who came in until E Europeans became the key group around a decade ago.

This article reckons there were only 300k Indians in GB in 1971!
http://www.hindustantimes.com/columns/th...u9XuN.html
But there's vastly more here today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_In...st_century
1.5million Indians in 2011. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis are counted separately.


Back re the OP:-
Also, what happens with stuff like religion and extended family?
White British and Indian are hugely different culturally in so many cases.

[WalterBlack]

(06-27-2017 03:02 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  

Back re the OP:-
Also, what happens with stuff like religion and extended family?
White British and Indian are hugely different culturally in so many cases.

What about religion? I went to a school where we had daily Christian prayer and Bible study classes. All of my relatives celebrate Christmas and Easter, even though my extended family is Sikh or Hindu. We're open minded people and not religious at all.

As for extended family - well what's wrong with being tight with your family members?

There are many different Indian cultures too - I was raised to eat what I want, and date who I want. It's not an issue for me to mix with non-Indian. In fact in Los Angeles you're more likely to see me hanging out with a White, Black, Mexican, Chinese or Korean person rather than another Indian.

There are now British Indian kids whose grandparents were born in the UK who only speak English.

When I interact with white British people there's no issue at all. I can still hang out with them and go for a pint. We're not like other communities who try to separate themselves from mainstream culture.

[SamuelBRoberts]

I agree with this.

A white kid deserves white parents, and an Indian kid deserves Indian parents. I hate it when whites adopt Africans and fly them away from their homelands, and I don't like this any better. The adoption isn't about the parents and what they want, it's about the best interests of the kid.
An adoptee has enough problems to deal with already, he doesn't need the additional problems that come with trying to adopt across cultures.

[BelyyTigr]

(06-27-2017 02:55 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 02:47 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  

I only scanned the main article. Until I saw the name "Reema" I thought the woman was white with a suntan.

Anyway, it makes perfect sense that they adopt a South Asian and not a white kid. Its NOT a "racist" or "racial supremacist" view before anyone asks. They aren't of British extraction, they don't have British cultural background or history etc. The idea is that kids blend in with their adoptive parents. Plus imagine the grief a white kid would have with Asian parents (from all races!). Besides the kid should be free to live without others thinking "I reckon he's adopted".

Likewise I think its really wrong that former Soviet Union kids are adopted by people who know nothing of USSR culture.

Once again the Orwellian "politically correct" garbage is persecuting people for showing common sense and values by supporting these 2 against a sensible agency.

PS look at the newspaper article "they have no close links with India". Hmm APART FROM BEING INDIAN!!!
Must've been a spastic who wrote it.

There are people of Indian heritage outside of India whose families have been outside of India for multiple generations, so they may not have much connection to India. My parents were from India, and I was born and raised in UK. I barely have any relatives left in India since most of them live in western countries. The last time I went to India I had to stay in a hotel because I had no relatives to stay with.

I have a friend whose family moved from India to Mauritius nearly 200 years ago - he has no idea where his ancestral village is and he has no family in India.

So the fact that this couple who were (both almost certainly born and raised in UK, act British and seem very integrated means that they have no British culture in them?

I live in the US and most days I watch British TV, read British websites, drink PG Tips tea, speak with a British accent and spell words British style - I guess I'm one of f those brown skinned immigrants who refuses to assimilate into American culture

But you must have some pride/interest in your Indian ancestry? Some interest in India doing well etc?
Wouldn't you feel cheated if you'd been adopted by whites over Indians (OK unless they were very rich etc hahaha!)

Sure they are dressed very "British" or rather "international". Just as lots of Indians in Mumbai etc do.
I'd feel equally strongly about a couple in India NOT adopting a kid of different ancestry. And that British shouldn't adopt other nationalities to look "cool" like Angelina Jolie. I mean does Jolie give a shit about indigeneous Somalian customs? Nope.

I know a girl who's mother was Jewish. But her mother never told her while she was alive. When she found out, she felt robbed of all her family and cultural history. Its the same principle.

My Russian grandparents died way back so I missed out on stuff growing up. I can imagine how much more of a problem it would be for this kid.

A white kid would miss out on so much. Its also adoptive grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles. Learning about the history thats "in their blood" etc, identity. That can't be manufactured. Countries and people develop a culture partly because of whats in their blood.

Is it really "bad" that an Indian couple rescue an INDIAN orphan rather than raise an indigeneous British kid? Surely not?

[BelyyTigr]

(06-27-2017 03:08 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 03:02 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  

Back re the OP:-
Also, what happens with stuff like religion and extended family?
White British and Indian are hugely different culturally in so many cases.

What about religion? I went to a school where we had daily Christian prayer and Bible study classes. All of my relatives celebrate Christmas and Easter, even though my extended family is Sikh or Hindu. We're open minded people and not religious at all.

As for extended family - well what's wrong with being tight with your family members?

There are many different Indian cultures too - I was raised to eat what I want, and date who I want. It's not an issue for me to mix with non-Indian. In fact in Los Angeles you're more likely to see me hanging out with a White, Black, Mexican, Chinese or Korean person rather than another Indian.

There are now British Indian kids whose grandparents were born in the UK who only speak English.

When I interact with white British people there's no issue at all. I can still hang out with them and go for a pint. We're not like other communities who try to separate themselves from mainstream culture.

Its good that any immigrant group integrates. My Indian friends tend to be semi integrated ie have fairly separate Indian and Western circles.

But this case its about making sure someone doesn't lose their identity. Imagine a young Chinese kid adopted by indigeneous Brits when a Chinese couple could have done so. Imagine what that young kid has lost out on.