[heavy]

Congrats bro. I'm on boats much of the summer, but they're friends' boats.

Wait, don't they have deadly jellyfish everywhere in Australia?

[jamaicabound]

I've been wanting to get a boat for years. I have a 11' little rowboat/spritsail boat. Its fun to take out on some small lakes and ponds but me and my girl is about all it can hold and there's only so much you can do with a boat of this size and no motor. Ideally I'd like a deck boat but those are a bit priciier so probably just looking for a used speedboat.

How much would you say you have to spend to get something turnkey that will last for a couple seasons? How about inboard vs outboard vs inboard/outboard? Any special makes or models to look for? Ideally I'd be looking to spend 5k or less, if something running and reliable can be had for that price.

My uncle and cousins both have boats and a lakehouse so maybe I should be satisfied just going out with them but really would like to be able to take friends out and do my own thing as opposed to only going with family.

[debeguiled]

Boats are also SHTF insurance. Just hit the seas.

This engineer designed a combination houseboat/sea worthy boat with Junk sails.

Not in production yet, but designed with simplicity of use, repair, and maintenance , and living on full time in mind.

Obviously more practical than cool.

I think the idea is fascinating. It is like a clinic in problem solving:

[The Beast1]

^^Until you run out of food and water. Then what are you going to do?

I'd rather have a private island.

[YoungBlade]

Fish and distill water. Not hard.

[debeguiled]

(06-27-2017 11:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

^^Until you run out of food and water. Then what are you going to do?

I'd rather have a private island.

You can always flee to where it is less hectic.

I would rather have a private island too, but if things got rough, you would look pretty funny trying to sail your private island across the ocean.

[porscheguy]

Sea trial was successful. I'm surprised at how smooth this repower went.

Then I got home and sprained the shit out of my ankle. I'm going to bed and will hope it's not broken. Will update later.

[The Beast1]

(06-27-2017 11:35 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Fish and distill water. Not hard.

You do know how much energy it takes to distill water right? You'll burn through that battery and diesel fuel in no time. Then what?

Maybe you'll get lucky with some rain water. I wouldn't take that chance.

Farm on a private island is the best way to ride out the end of the world.

[Suits]

(06-30-2017 12:36 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 11:35 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Fish and distill water. Not hard.

You do know how much energy it takes to distill water right? You'll burn through that battery and diesel fuel in no time. Then what?

Recharge the battery with solar panels.

[Greyman]

(06-27-2017 11:10 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Boats are also SHTF insurance. Just hit the seas.

This engineer designed a combination houseboat/sea worthy boat with Junk sails.

Not in production yet, but designed with simplicity of use, repair, and maintenance , and living on full time in mind.

Obviously more practical than cool.

I think the idea is fascinating. It is like a clinic in problem solving:

I'm seriously onboard (no pun intended) with this...

Starting to save capital for the roll out hopefully next year.

[Engineer]

(06-30-2017 12:36 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 11:35 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Fish and distill water. Not hard.

You do know how much energy it takes to distill water right? You'll burn through that battery and diesel fuel in no time. Then what?

Maybe you'll get lucky with some rain water. I wouldn't take that chance.

Farm on a private island is the best way to ride out the end of the world.

Lifeboats usually have a reverse osmosis hand cranked thing, for about an hour's work you get enough water for one person for one day. I would have something like that for my SHTF scenario at least as backup.

[YoungBlade]

(06-30-2017 12:36 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 11:35 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Fish and distill water. Not hard.

You do know how much energy it takes to distill water right? You'll burn through that battery and diesel fuel in no time. Then what?

Maybe you'll get lucky with some rain water. I wouldn't take that chance.

Farm on a private island is the best way to ride out the end of the world.

And these are for situations in which seawater isn't available. If you have sea water you'll have plenty of both salt and water forever.

[The Beast1]

I doubt the longterm effectiveness of sun stills. Sun distillation takes about 3 to 4 hours depending on the amount of sun light you have. Even then you'll only have about a small cupful of water. You're screwed if it isn't sunny enough.

You'll collect maybe enough to satiate your thirst with a single glass. It's not enough to support your body's basic needs for 1.5 liters of water a day less you want your entire boat deck covered with solar stills. Then you have to worry about them moving around because when do boats sit still?

Engineer's reverse osmosis pump is the best option there is to get enough water for a single person. Even then, your time is limited for how long the membrane holds out. You'll need multiple for multiple members of your party (none of this SHTF MGTOW crap).

You'll still need to make land fall eventually.

I always wondered how the folks in Waterworld survived.

[YoungBlade]

So first there's not enough rain, then there's not enough sun? Which is it man. Few places on earth are perpetually cloudy.

[debeguiled]

You can collect all the water you want from The Beast raining on your dreams.

[The Beast1]

(06-30-2017 12:43 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

So first there's not enough rain, then there's not enough sun? Which is it man. Few places on earth are perpetually cloudy.

Buy a katamaran, some cling wrap, fishing hooks, and try to see how long you can live at sea.

I bet you'll be able to swim more than an olympic swimmer can all while on a subsistence diet of fish, turtles, birds, and distilled sun water!

This thread sparked a fun prepper boat idea for me. I was having a good time trying to figure out a good way to live on a boat for a year at a time without going onto land.

As for Suit's suggestion for solar panels, yeah that's about the next best thing you can do. Get a battery set up, solar panels, maybe a wind turbine on the mast. You might be able to generate enough power in a day to distill water.

It would be better to develop some sort of rain water capture system. Most boats dump good rain water into the ocean.

Edit: I'll add this. Your ideas Youngblade are good. However, I don't want to look like an emaciated cotton mouth Tom Hanks. I'd like to be somewhat comfortable. I want more water on a consistent basis than a sun still is capable of producing, mostly for myself and the family I plan on bringing along.

[debeguiled]

I know Beast is set on his island, which of course pirates or marauders will never find, so he is good.

However, if you are thinking of living on board a boat, you want one that can carry a lot of water.

Quidnon has been designed to carry more water than normal boat.

Remember, this boat was designed not only by an engineer, but by a guy who has been living full time on a boat for a while now.

So, believe it or not, he has done some thinking about the question of fresh water.

http://quidnon.blogspot.com/2015/01/fres...oring.html

Quote:

To be useful as ballast, the water tanks have to be kept full. This, it turns out, is quite easy to arrange by using fresh water bladders made of weldable nylon floating inside tanks that are kept full of salt water, and at “boat pressure” (20 psi or so, much lower than house pressure) using a demand pump. The demand pump is turned off when filling a tank, and the bladders are sized to be somewhat larger than the tanks in which they sit, so that they are never under any pressure. This will make the bladders last a very long time, but spares would of course be carried, so that a new bladder can be swapped in if a tank starts to taste brackish. The tube that taps into a bladder will come out the top, to bleed off the gas that results when the tanks are filled with chlorinated water.

Quote:

QUIDNON has plentiful room for tankage in the awkward, otherwise useless space between the centerboard trunks and the hull. It adds up to 184 cubic feet of space, which equates to 1380 gallons (5225 liters) of tankage and 11,600 lbs of water ballast. A typical shower uses 17 gallons of water, and this means that QUIDNON's water tanks will be sufficient to provide 80 showers.

You may not agree with this method of storing water on a boat, but it is a little insane to think you are the only one who has thought about the problem of storing water on a long sea journey.

With his system, Orlov figures on having to stop once a month to stock up on water, and this is for a family that not only drinks water, and cooks with it, but one that showers.

[TheBMan]

I've been thinking about buying a boat recently. I realize they are financial disasters but seem like a great way to get friends and family together.

[The Beast1]

Debeguiled's quindon guy has the right idea. With a proper ration regiment you could extend that fresh water storage for a good couple of months.

Hell you really only need a salt water shower with a fresh water rinse to be happy. I wouldn't trust women to respect that however so someone would have to be the ration police.

[dark_g]

(06-26-2017 10:50 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Congrats bro. I'm on boats much of the summer, but they're friends' boats.

Wait, don't they have deadly jellyfish everywhere in Australia?

Someone once told me, If you want to enjoy a boat without the headaches, have friends with a boats. The same can be said for swimming pools.

[porscheguy]

Reading this talk about bug out boats and distilling water is like listening to a group of mgtows talking about why they're morally superior for turning down pussy of moderate quality. Don't stop on account of me though. I'm going to go launch the boat, do some speed runs, jump some wakes, and talk some shit to bikini clad women at the marina.

[polar]

Make the lifestyle forum great again, Porsche.

Less talk of doomsday. More talk of pussy and catching sun rays with friends, margaritas in hand.

[debeguiled]

(07-02-2017 10:38 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Reading this talk about bug out boats and distilling water is like listening to a group of mgtows talking about why they're morally superior for turning down pussy of moderate quality. Don't stop on account of me though. I'm going to go launch the boat, do some speed runs, jump some wakes, and talk some shit to bikini clad women at the marina.

You trying to say this isn't a chick magnet?

[porscheguy]

That will draw out the women just like a turd in a swimming pool.

[nomadbrah]

Obligatory:



Konfutse says: He who has a boat always has friends