[nomadbrah]

Never seen Mayweather fight, don't particularly want to either from what I hear about his style. Manny was always exciting. I was in Manila when he took one of his belts.

[steak]

I think the notion that mcGregor could NEVER EVER stand a chance at beating mayweather in this is unfounded, considering we do not see either of them day to day in their training much less have an idea of how they will face off. We have no idea what mcgregor will be able to do in terms of controlling the ring with his longer wingspan or what style he will use, as it is clear that mcgregor has 4-5 stances he has shown across multiple fights, and does not use all of them every fight.

Mcgregor, southpaw but can use both, floyd has bitch wrists and has struggled with southpaws. Mcgregor is at his peak, Floyd is probably not.

I have no idea what will happen, I just really hope people don't look at these comments and not actually see what happens.

[Oz.]

I'm a boxing fan, so just going to leave this here.

I don't discredit the fact that McGregor can win, but, based on skill? Based on money is a complete different story.

[kaotic]

Goddamn either way this is going to be fun - its boxing - of course Floyd is going to win dude.

Come on now, unless Connor KO's Floyd (which is next to impossible) it's Floyd's fight to lose.

Either way they're both making money, it's a genius move by both.

McGregor can say he tried something new, goes back to MMA and destroys his weight class and moves up or down, Floyd keeps his perfect 50 record.

Win Fucking Win.

[MX90]

CM by TKO in the 9th.

[GlobalMan]

Conor McGregor on Mayweather Wrote:

He's 40 years of age. He's a little…he's got a little head on him. Honestly, my fist is bigger than his head. I sleep people. I put people unconscious. I'm stating facts. If I hit that man, his head is gonna go into the bleachers. You understand that? If I crack that little head of his, it's gonna go clean off his shoulders and up into the bleachers.

I don't know if he has a chance, but I'll be rooting for him.

[AlphaRN]

A WWE match will be less scripted than this fight. Both of them will tap-dance around for 12 rounds, going half-speed with light punches and collect their checks.

Regardless, anyone willing to pay this kind of money to watch a single sporting event needs to re-evaluate their life.

No thanks.

[TravelerKai]

(06-15-2017 04:07 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Conor McGregor on Mayweather Wrote:

He's 40 years of age. He's a little…he's got a little head on him. Honestly, my fist is bigger than his head. I sleep people. I put people unconscious. I'm stating facts. If I hit that man, his head is gonna go into the bleachers. You understand that? If I crack that little head of his, it's gonna go clean off his shoulders and up into the bleachers.

I don't know if he has a chance, but I'll be rooting for him.

That shit sounds hilarious in theory, but the only question is, can he catch him with a punch at all?

You guys know I am an MMA guy and whatnot, but your average lightweight/middleweight MMA fighter has the punch speed of a Amatuer/Pro heavyweight boxer at best!

Don't take my word for it, listen to someone who has fought him before had to say about Floyd's speed:

Some serious real talk in that second video breaking it down on strategy. He says if he could touch him, he has a chance.

The point of boxing is to not get hit, but hit your opponent. Not stand there and trade. That is not the sweet science.

MMA guys take hits to compensate and counter. Anderson Silva, GSP, and Lyoto Machida for example fooled other MMA fighters for years because they were elusive like Floyd. Actually only Silva is on par with Floyd's level. Too bad they don't weigh close enough because that would be a better cross over fight. Silva dominated for years because no one could literally touch him flush, unless he was showboating and let them hit him clean.

Also 10oz gloves are nothing like 4-6oz MMA gloves. I'm surprised they are not going 12oz to be honest, but maybe they had to meet Connor halfway a little bit and go 10oz. If he thinks he is going to knock someone's head off with a 10oz, like he does in the Octagon he is nuts.

Like Berto said, this is all a crazy circus all for money.

[WanderingSoul]

I think the 10oz gloves actually help Floyd more than Connor.

I think Floyd will be teeing off on Connor's head all night, and the 10oz gloves are just going to make it sting that much more.

I really don't see Connor landing shit on Floyd.

People talk like Connor might KO Floyd, but no one ever has. Has anyone ever even knocked him down? Zab? And Connor is no Zab Judah in his prime.

[Mr. Accuride]

If Connor had chosen literally anyone else, then I think it's an interesting question. Can a world class MMA fighter with a boxing background adapt to world class boxing in 5 months? I don't see why not. If Connor's base wasn't boxing to begin with then I would say he's in major trouble, but he was all youth Ireland champ in boxing and has sparred with world class boxers before. Mayweather is also 40 and has probably lost a step, which would explain why the sharps snapped Connor up at the opening line of +1100.

Now it's -600 Mayweather in many places, which implies that Connor could do everything that could be reasonably expected of him and still lose anyway because Mayweather is that much better. Thus for Connor to win, either he would have to box out of his mind or Mayweather will have to make some very critical mistakes.

Unfortunately, Mayweather is most likely the best boxer in history and only recently retired. As it stands, it's like Lonzo Ball challenging Kobe to a 1 on 1 pickup game. If the line drops below -500 for Mayweather, then I might sink a small fortune into it.

[TravelerKai]

(06-15-2017 06:09 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

If Connor had chosen literally anyone else, then I think it's an interesting question. Can a world class MMA fighter with a boxing background adapt to world class boxing in 5 months? I don't see why not. If Connor's base wasn't boxing to begin with then I would say he's in major trouble, but he was all youth Ireland champ in boxing and has sparred with world class boxers before. Mayweather is also 40 and has probably lost a step, which would explain why the sharps snapped Connor up at the opening line of +1100.

Now it's -600 Mayweather in many places, which implies that Connor could do everything that could be reasonably expected of him and still lose anyway because Mayweather is that much better. Thus for Connor to win, either he would have to box out of his mind or Mayweather will have to make some very critical mistakes.

Unfortunately, Mayweather is most likely the best boxer in history and only recently retired. As it stands, it's like Lonzo Ball challenging Kobe to a 1 on 1 pickup game. If the line drops below -500 for Mayweather, then I might sink a small fortune into it.

Bruh, there is a problem with your post. Is Connor a world class MMA fighter?

Let's list some of the world class MMA fighters: (in no order)

1. Anderson Silva
2. George Saint Pierre
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Dan Severn
5. Randy Couture
6. Minotaro Noguiera
7. Fedor Emelianenko
8. BJ Penn
9. Dominick Cruz (why not!)
10. Wanderlei Silva the Axe Murderer

I could go on for at least 4-5 more guys.

Can you put Connor up against ANY of these guys? Pound for pound?

HELL FUCK NO!

Connor is on par with dudes like Chuck Liddell or Tito Ortiz maybe.

Good maybe very good, but not great.

He is hardly a shoe in for UFC hall of fame. He's kinda like the Kazushi Sakuraba of the USA. Really good but full of flaws and far from perfect.

If Floyd lost to a dude of this caliber, that says alot more about him than anything else. Floyd is a legend. Connor isn't even close to that status in his own sport.

[Mr. Accuride]

(06-15-2017 06:49 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Bruh, there is a problem with your post. Is Connor a world class MMA fighter?

Let's list some of the world class MMA fighters: (in no order)

1. Anderson Silva
2. George Saint Pierre
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Dan Severn
5. Randy Couture
6. Minotaro Noguiera
7. Fedor Emelianenko
8. BJ Penn
9. Dominick Cruz (why not!)
10. Wanderlei Silva the Axe Murderer

I could go on for at least 4-5 more guys.

Can you put Connor up against ANY of these guys? Pound for pound?

HELL FUCK NO!

Connor is on par with dudes like Chuck Liddell or Tito Ortiz maybe.

Good maybe very good, but not great.

He is hardly a shoe in for UFC hall of fame. He's kinda like the Kazushi Sakuraba of the USA. Really good but full of flaws and far from perfect.

If Floyd lost to a dude of this caliber, that says alot more about him than anything else. Floyd is a legend. Connor isn't even close to that status in his own sport.

You misunderstood my post by comparing him to literal legends in MMA. I'm not saying he's HOF, but just by virtue of winning the UFC title would imply that he's world class level, no?

As fans it's really hard for us to grasp what world class level is at times, like where you might say Chuck Liddell is just "good or very good, not great", the reality is he is a world class level fighter who would've only had trouble with perhaps < 30 guys out there in the world during his prime. Certainly he would've crushed any of us amateurs.

Which is why I said, if he had chosen almost literally anyone else, like say the equivalent of Buster Douglas or another world class level boxer, then it might be interesting. But as you say, and I agree, Floyd is possibly the best boxer in history so it's like Lonzo Ball challenging Kobe to a 1 on 1 pickup game.

[Sebastian]

I think i paid $20 to get into the bar to watch pacmac match. There was only one bar in my whole city because other places couldnt afford it.
It was $6500 for 200 people limit bar, $15k for 500 people.
I wonder how much it would be this time?
I felt bad contributing my pocket change and watch this low class guy flaunt his money around.

[The Father]

(06-15-2017 03:07 AM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

Haha, well it's the electrician's fault to agreeing to a plumbing contest.

Fault?? He will be very happy to be humiliated for $100,000,000.00.

[The Father]

Here's what this clown show will look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ZQAVoGhaw

[TravelerKai]

(06-15-2017 07:12 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 06:49 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Bruh, there is a problem with your post. Is Connor a world class MMA fighter?

Let's list some of the world class MMA fighters: (in no order)

1. Anderson Silva
2. George Saint Pierre
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Dan Severn
5. Randy Couture
6. Minotaro Noguiera
7. Fedor Emelianenko
8. BJ Penn
9. Dominick Cruz (why not!)
10. Wanderlei Silva the Axe Murderer

I could go on for at least 4-5 more guys.

Can you put Connor up against ANY of these guys? Pound for pound?

HELL FUCK NO!

Connor is on par with dudes like Chuck Liddell or Tito Ortiz maybe.

Good maybe very good, but not great.

He is hardly a shoe in for UFC hall of fame. He's kinda like the Kazushi Sakuraba of the USA. Really good but full of flaws and far from perfect.

If Floyd lost to a dude of this caliber, that says alot more about him than anything else. Floyd is a legend. Connor isn't even close to that status in his own sport.

You misunderstood my post by comparing him to literal legends in MMA. I'm not saying he's HOF, but just by virtue of winning the UFC title would imply that he's world class level, no?

As fans it's really hard for us to grasp what world class level is at times, like where you might say Chuck Liddell is just "good or very good, not great", the reality is he is a world class level fighter who would've only had trouble with perhaps < 30 guys out there in the world during his prime. Certainly he would've crushed any of us amateurs.

Which is why I said, if he had chosen almost literally anyone else, like say the equivalent of Buster Douglas or another world class level boxer, then it might be interesting. But as you say, and I agree, Floyd is possibly the best boxer in history so it's like Lonzo Ball challenging Kobe to a 1 on 1 pickup game.

I honestly do not think he is world class. MMA is so watered down these days, the guys that are the best now, probably could not stack against the best of 5 or even 10 years ago. Guys that mastered one style learned others compared to the cookie cutter factory of generic ass dudes that essentially have the exact same fighting style as the next guy. Nobody except the Diaz brothers have legit BJJ black belt pedigrees. They all punch and kick the same. Grapple the same. It's pathetic.

If you ask me if he is a world class athlete, ok maybe sure. The threshold for that is so low though. College athletes in track and field fit this.

Lonzo Ball vs Kobe? That's being awfully nice. Replace Kobe with LeBron James and that would be more accurate.

[underboss]

(06-15-2017 05:08 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

I think the 10oz gloves actually help Floyd more than Connor.

I think Floyd will be teeing off on Connor's head all night, and the 10oz gloves are just going to make it sting that much more.

I really don't see Connor landing shit on Floyd.

People talk like Connor might KO Floyd, but no one ever has. Has anyone ever even knocked him down? Zab? And Connor is no Zab Judah in his prime.

If it wasn't for the 10th round melee, Super Judah would have won.

[Soyouz]

This fight is a joke.

Some people say "McGregor has a puncher chance". Mayweather is a master of defense, and has a good chin (he took punches from real boxers and was never KOed).

Mayweather could fight McGregor after partying all night long with Charlie Sheen and would still win easily.

[Rocha]

(06-15-2017 08:14 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:12 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 06:49 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Bruh, there is a problem with your post. Is Connor a world class MMA fighter?

Let's list some of the world class MMA fighters: (in no order)

1. Anderson Silva
2. George Saint Pierre
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Dan Severn
5. Randy Couture
6. Minotaro Noguiera
7. Fedor Emelianenko
8. BJ Penn
9. Dominick Cruz (why not!)
10. Wanderlei Silva the Axe Murderer

I could go on for at least 4-5 more guys.

Can you put Connor up against ANY of these guys? Pound for pound?

HELL FUCK NO!

Connor is on par with dudes like Chuck Liddell or Tito Ortiz maybe.

Good maybe very good, but not great.

He is hardly a shoe in for UFC hall of fame. He's kinda like the Kazushi Sakuraba of the USA. Really good but full of flaws and far from perfect.

If Floyd lost to a dude of this caliber, that says alot more about him than anything else. Floyd is a legend. Connor isn't even close to that status in his own sport.

You misunderstood my post by comparing him to literal legends in MMA. I'm not saying he's HOF, but just by virtue of winning the UFC title would imply that he's world class level, no?

As fans it's really hard for us to grasp what world class level is at times, like where you might say Chuck Liddell is just "good or very good, not great", the reality is he is a world class level fighter who would've only had trouble with perhaps < 30 guys out there in the world during his prime. Certainly he would've crushed any of us amateurs.

Which is why I said, if he had chosen almost literally anyone else, like say the equivalent of Buster Douglas or another world class level boxer, then it might be interesting. But as you say, and I agree, Floyd is possibly the best boxer in history so it's like Lonzo Ball challenging Kobe to a 1 on 1 pickup game.

I honestly do not think he is world class. MMA is so watered down these days, the guys that are the best now, probably could not stack against the best of 5 or even 10 years ago. Guys that mastered one style learned others compared to the cookie cutter factory of generic ass dudes that essentially have the exact same fighting style as the next guy. Nobody except the Diaz brothers have legit BJJ black belt pedigrees. They all punch and kick the same. Grapple the same. It's pathetic.

If you ask me if he is a world class athlete, ok maybe sure. The threshold for that is so low though. College athletes in track and field fit this.

Lonzo Ball vs Kobe? That's being awfully nice. Replace Kobe with LeBron James and that would be more accurate.

This is just hating on Connor as a MMA fighter.
Dan Severn, BJ Penn, Wanderlei, Randy?? ffs... You could find better world classers, even recent HW champ Miocic has better record than half of them. Or you might as well say Connor does not stand a chance against Travis Fulton....

Also when guys like Demian Maia, Fabricio Werdum, Ronaldo Jacaré, Rafael dos Anjos, Charles Oliveira, or even Ryan Hall and Gunnar Nelson are still around and winning fights, saying that only the Diaz Brothers are legit black belts is quite laughable.

Lets leave the hate aside. Connor is a world class MMA fighter, yes. He already has made his mark in the sport, even if just for the fact that he beat Aldo in less than 10 seconds, who was undefeated for 10 years.

Apart from that, Floyd will kick his ass badly, no chance for him in a boxing contest, except from the highly unlikely puncher chance.

[Transsimian]

How much would you accept to be knocked out in front of millions of people?
a hundred million is a fortune for one night's work.

[Transsimian]

(06-14-2017 08:28 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

It's a shame Merenguero is no longer on the forum but we all know he's going to roll deep in Vegas while Custom Suited Down. Smack some Gs on Money Mayweather, swoop some models, and fly back a richer and happier man.

How to get rich: Sell everything, take out loans (Yes, even with Benny the Blade), put it all on Mayweather, get rich.

Thank me later. Few will admit to this. No on talks about this.

I just lost ten thousand on a dead-certain Theresa May

Don't gamble more than you can afford casually losing.

[Fortis]

(06-15-2017 01:41 PM)steak Wrote:  

I think the notion that mcGregor could NEVER EVER stand a chance at beating mayweather in this is unfounded, considering we do not see either of them day to day in their training much less have an idea of how they will face off. We have no idea what mcgregor will be able to do in terms of controlling the ring with his longer wingspan or what style he will use, as it is clear that mcgregor has 4-5 stances he has shown across multiple fights, and does not use all of them every fight.

Mcgregor, southpaw but can use both, floyd has bitch wrists and has struggled with southpaws. Mcgregor is at his peak, Floyd is probably not.

I have no idea what will happen, I just really hope people don't look at these comments and not actually see what happens.

Respectfully disagree.

I"ve been watching Mayweather for a little over a decade, so take my observations as you will.

Mcgregor is in his prime--in MMA. Whole different world. He doesn't have the coordination or the skills to take on the pound-for-pound best fighter in another sport.

I think Mcgregor's a great boxer in the MMA where guys aren't specialized only in boxing, but I don't think he'll be able to pressure Mayweather in the way that he can pressure MMA guys.

Not mention, Mayweather's hands are probably 5x faster than Mcgregor's and Mayweather has almost never taken a serious punch to the head because of his phenomenal footwork and head movement.


If a boxer like Pacquiao got clowned by Mayweather despite his bitch wrists, I think a young Mcgregor (who has lackluster boxing outside of MMA) is going to get clowned even harder.

Furthermore, we have seen him spar with his boxing coach, this no name champion boxer and McGregor can hardly land a hand on this guy. Let's also not forget that boxing gloves are probably going to be heavier than MMA gloves, so Mcgregor's speed will be cut even more.

Look at how slow Mcgregor is:

lul

I think he's a lastluster fighter who is not ready for boxing. I like him in MMA becuase he's funny and exciting, but you guys are really high on his smoke if you think he's going to cross sports and beat one of the best boxers to have ever lived.

[H1N1]

Connor McGregor couldn't stack it in a boxing ring against top level amateurs. He has no chance whatsoever against Mayweather. The fight is a joke and is only happening because most people have never competed in a combat sport. Most people who watch it simply won't know very much about fighting. Mayweather inside 6 rounds, even with his busted hands. Ref will stop it after 6 rounds of one way traffic. People talk about McGregor offensively, but ignore the fact that against a guy like Mayweather you really need a defense. This is a guy who is lightning quick (even if he isn't as quick as he used to be), and can pretty much hit you at will without being hit himself. Mayweather will bust up CM's face and the ref will end it.

It'll be a sordid, slightly embarrassing affair that might well end up with Floyd trying not to embarrass CM too much, and looking at the ref to call a stoppage from the early rounds.

[WalterBlack]

Conor Mcgregor Vs Chris Van Heerden (former IBO welterweight champion)

First comment:

Quote:

Would he go the distance!? Yes,he would! The distance to the nearest hospital.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Yeah, I don't think a lot of guys understand what it takes to become a Floyd Mayweather.

Not only do you have to be an apex-freak of boxing specific genetics but you have to take that freakery and enhance it by conditioning yourself to react to tiny, almost imperceptible twitches of your opponents without the slightest hint of conscious thought. Beyond that, your trained unconscious responses have to be perfect in nature and honed over many years by the finest trainers money can buy. For this reason Floyd could be put in a zombie state and still beat Connor.

Here's what Connor's working with (and five months of training is not going to de-program him and re-program him):

Floyd twitches. Connor thinks "move in to grapple, but no, I'm not allowed" and he's taken a hit. For a microsecond he sees Floyd's legs move and drops his arm a quarter inch to catch a kick that's never going to come, and before he even has time to think "oops" he's just caught another hit.

Here's what Floyd's working with:

His eyes register Connor dropping his guard a quarter inch for a quarter second and send that message to the base of his brain that sends the message to punch Connor in the face with a straight right jab, and some time between the moment his arm begins to move and Connor's face is impacted Floyd actually has the conscious thought that Connor dropped his guard and he's about to go down.

Floyd is literally a spectator in his own body.

And that is why Connor has no chance.