[GymBro]

For the guys here who go out and do night game regularly, have you noticed an appreciable difference in ROI from going out on weeknights vs. weekends?

I went out tonight on a Friday and got absolutely nothing outside one of one brief grind. Almost every girl was in a group of 4 or more, often with dudes. It seemed as if literally no girl was available/DTF. Not even the tall white dudes were grinding or making out with girls (outside of the ones they came with).

My impression is most (younger) girls who go out on on Friday/Saturday nights are not out to hook up with guys because they are there to celebrate birthdays, bachelorettes, or on a "girls night out". Maybe you get lucky and stumble upon the odd tourist/new to the city/girl from out of town, but in the vast majority of cases most girls who go out now are just there to dance with their friends, not to hook up with random cool hot guys.

On the other hand, girls who go out on off-nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday) are more inclined to go out to hook up with a guy as most people celebrate their birthdays/bachelorettes/"girls night out" on weekends.

Thoughts?

[ksbms]

(06-10-2017 01:32 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

For the guys here who go out and do night game regularly, have you noticed an appreciable difference in ROI from going out on weeknights vs. weekends?

I went out tonight on a Friday and got absolutely nothing outside one of one brief grind. Almost every girl was in a group of 4 or more, often with dudes. It seemed as if literally no girl was available/DTF. Not even the tall white dudes were grinding or making out with girls (outside of the ones they came with).

My impression is most (younger) girls who go out on on Friday/Saturday nights are not out to hook up with guys because they are there to celebrate birthdays, bachelorettes, or on a "girls night out". Maybe you get lucky and stumble upon the odd tourist/new to the city/girl from out of town, but in the vast majority of cases most girls who go out now are just there to dance with their friends, not to hook up with random cool hot guys.



On the other hand, girls who go out on off-nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday) are more inclined to go out to hook up with a guy as most people celebrate their birthdays/bachelorettes/"girls night out" on weekends.

Thoughts?

[GymBro]

(06-10-2017 08:29 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 01:32 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

For the guys here who go out and do night game regularly, have you noticed an appreciable difference in ROI from going out on weeknights vs. weekends?

I went out tonight on a Friday and got absolutely nothing outside one of one brief grind. Almost every girl was in a group of 4 or more, often with dudes. It seemed as if literally no girl was available/DTF. Not even the tall white dudes were grinding or making out with girls (outside of the ones they came with).

My impression is most (younger) girls who go out on on Friday/Saturday nights are not out to hook up with guys because they are there to celebrate birthdays, bachelorettes, or on a "girls night out". Maybe you get lucky and stumble upon the odd tourist/new to the city/girl from out of town, but in the vast majority of cases most girls who go out now are just there to dance with their friends, not to hook up with random cool hot guys.



On the other hand, girls who go out on off-nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday) are more inclined to go out to hook up with a guy as most people celebrate their birthdays/bachelorettes/"girls night out" on weekends.

Thoughts?

Good podcast. Nonetheless, there's a Canadian guy here a 100+ notches from night game all in the past couple years, so there are still guys out there getting laid regularly from night game.

[Darkwing Buck]

(06-10-2017 08:42 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:29 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 01:32 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

For the guys here who go out and do night game regularly, have you noticed an appreciable difference in ROI from going out on weeknights vs. weekends?

I went out tonight on a Friday and got absolutely nothing outside one of one brief grind. Almost every girl was in a group of 4 or more, often with dudes. It seemed as if literally no girl was available/DTF. Not even the tall white dudes were grinding or making out with girls (outside of the ones they came with).

My impression is most (younger) girls who go out on on Friday/Saturday nights are not out to hook up with guys because they are there to celebrate birthdays, bachelorettes, or on a "girls night out". Maybe you get lucky and stumble upon the odd tourist/new to the city/girl from out of town, but in the vast majority of cases most girls who go out now are just there to dance with their friends, not to hook up with random cool hot guys.



On the other hand, girls who go out on off-nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday) are more inclined to go out to hook up with a guy as most people celebrate their birthdays/bachelorettes/"girls night out" on weekends.

Thoughts?

Good podcast. Nonetheless, there's a Canadian guy here a 100+ notches from night game all in the past couple years, so there are still guys out there getting laid regularly from night game.

God I hate answers like these. Someone brings up a point about a general observable trend and then someone says "But I know a guy!!!"

Come on. We all know a fucking guy.

The point is in general, for MOST guys, that night club game is an uphill battle. Exceptions include guys with significant fame/status and guys with exceptional looks.

[Steve McQueen]

Off nights are easier for sure, girls are way more approachable as their guard is down and there are less mother hens patrolling the group. Lots more 2 sets and an occasional one set is not unheard of particularly if she is new in town just out to get a taste of the nightlife. Nightclubs are a dead duck for the most part unless you are good looking, its very difficult to hold a conversation but it is effective for caveman game, if Im drunk thats usually my default and generally it works.

[GymBro]

(06-10-2017 11:22 AM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

Off nights are easier for sure, girls are way more approachable as their guard is down and there are less mother hens patrolling the group. Lots more 2 sets and an occasional one set is not unheard of particularly if she is new in town just out to get a taste of the nightlife.

Thanks man, this is what I've observed too.

The biggest factor in Toronto nightclubs are big groups. If they're there for a birthday, bachelorette, family or BFFs since high school forget it. Maybe there are guys out there who can pull and isolate girls from big groups but it's an uphill battle. 2s and even 3s are much easier to deal with.

The only success I've had is when the big groups are loosely connected (ie. foreign girls on exchange going to the same language school who've only been here a few weeks).

[Broadband]

There are places. They are different, uncomfortable however stray far from the norm.

I was telling my friends as a recent again single that there are two places that work here in town and work amazingly, but I had to find them. With the right attitude, composure and approach I can make things happen in these decrepit late night scenes....yes they are absolutely difficult however with the mindset of not trying and no intention of hitting those spot to get laid, women fell in my lap.

There are two places in my town I've been gloating about recently to friends that sound crazy but just fucking work. I apologize if you aren't willing to attend the venue or if it isn't something that exists in your town (likely #2)

1) Country Bars - I live in a major metropolitan area and there are two country bars. One is more of a "just on the weekdays" the other is serious. They have dance lessons, ladies nights and are good ole' boys. What to expect? An age range of barely 21 to 71. The benefit? With such a huge range of age groups, and the only "real" country bar means everyone meshes and gets along extremely well. You can approach bachelorette tables with their mothers there, win them over and have them introduce you to their still single daughter....cringe included. You can talk it up with ANYONE and at worst you're annoying them but no one things you have any agenda. It's fish in a barrell guys so long as you aren't a creep.

2) Stripperoke - Yes, we have a strip club that weekly does karaoke on the stage while the stippers are dancing 2 feet from you. (A more unlikely venue given your location). The more bold you are the more they unbutton your shirt, pants, etc. When it's over you can have a "real" conversation with the strippers without them wanting a single dollar. The best part is this is so non-conformist or confrontational that women and especially single women are EVERYWHERE and talk. I got 2 numbers at a strip club with a shirt saying "I'm not marriage material" a few weeks back. No, I wasn't there to get numbers....just happened.

In short, YES night game is tough as fuck however if you go out and either retain your frame and don't cause a scene you can still get numbers, perhaps just not one night lays as easily or a handful of questionable numbers. More importantly every major city has cool weird shit going on that women attend and you would love to join if you knew about it and weren't concerned about your status or the impression of idiot strangers.

Go out, meet people and fuck the haters. Just don't set your goals to one night lays and you'll be surprised how easily you'll find single women out with friends for an event waiting to meet you!

[Moma]

I personally felt that offnight game is the best. There were less posers and lizards out during that time really wanted to get poked. Either they were boiling enough to actually go out during a worknight or they worked odd hours/odd days and this was their night to let their hair down. Either way, it worked more in my favour. I will cover this in an upcoming blog post.

[Broadband]

Weekdays are better. The problem is finding the spots with a crowd. If you're willing to roam on the weeknight that you want to go out to, you'll want to know where they are.

[Premium]

Nightlife or bars? There's a difference and more so with social platforms. Plus the days of people with many friends ( I use to go out with 7 or 8 guys/girls) has morphed into smaller groups usually 2 chicks and maybe a gay dude.

It's standard to try to get into bars underage...reach the drinking age the excitement isn't so much anymore...go for a few years catch a STD or crabs ..then by 24 yrs be bored of it.

Then your 28 and single....you remember where you use to get crabs and go back to the bar scene...sadly a lot of older guys also want to catch crabs again so it's a sausage fest...and the dudes lament about the good ol days.

Small bars or blow out nightclubs (this one the musics too loud people just want to drink/dance till they puke)

Today's chick's have isolated themselves with social media followings (that's how you fuck them ... thru there mind first...so she's probably masturbated and done already) and like I wrote above has few "real humans as friends".....and if they go out they take there "electronic friends along"

Does anybody know why women read "romance novels" and why those books fly off the shelves?....well just think of all those fantasy mysterious strangers that shower her with romance.... that she reads 24/7 while playing angry birds

Sim Worlds are where it'll go eventually...but that's another story for another day.

So a couple of girls go out for the night....young ones stand in a line somewhere.......the older girls go to a quieter bar that has great salads/wine usually a sports bar/tavern with a one man band or comedy night.

You'll see ZERO interest in meeting a guy until the 5th wine bottle...so be patient try not to pass out drunk be like the 20 other guys beside you..count every sip she takes....the new guy trick is to go out late ...like 11 pm....when the few chicks that are out...are stoned and approachable...and the guy can make coherent sentences

If a guy is lucky enough to chat for a few hours without the girl being interrupted by a smartphone "like" or text or FB notification..you may get a roll in the sack....or she may just go back to your place so she can charge up her phone

wanna do something at night...night school....yoga.....dance classes.....and take a date out to the bistro bars..having a date makes other chicks horny for ya...krazy right! they think your already checked out and good (no crabs)

[Rang off the Pipe]

(06-15-2017 06:04 AM)Broadband Wrote:  

Weekdays are better. The problem is finding the spots with a crowd. If you're willing to roam on the weeknight that you want to go out to, you'll want to know where they are.

Exactly. And some cities are small enough where going out on weekdays isn't a viable option except for maybe some spots with very cliquey groups of students.