[brick tamland]

If the two of you had very similar backgrounds, and ties through the same church and community, and your parents knew each other and were supportive, it could work.
But it's only been 2 years. She's played the field, virgin or not, hence an engagement at age 22. She has more experience than you. Meanwhile you still need exposure to more women and dating. Unfortunately you'll get a few bruises or even scars but you do need the exposure. At 24, your prior conditioning/socialisation is still strong so your perception of women is faulty, so don't pay the price.
Since you're starting to get going with your career and finances, rather broaden your horizons and reassess the marriage and family issue at age 30-35.

[PapayaTapper]

(06-01-2017 12:09 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

There are no free lunches. True story: I met a 26-year-old virgin once. She was nerdy and didn't seem to know much about dating, but she was very sweet and had a nice body. She had only given a few blowjobs and was eager to lose her virginity. I had already taken her virginity and cum all over her again that night before she confessed that she was wearing a wig and had no natural hair. The last guy she had gotten close to bailed when she told him and she was ready to get laid but had been too scared to tell me. It was a very good wig. I hadn't even noticed. The moral of this story: there is always something going on if nature hasn't taken its course.

You may have gotten the first RVF recorded cyborg flag

[kaotic]

[quote='PapayaTapper' pid='1587831' dateline='1496899765']
You may have gotten the first RVF recorded cyborg flag

I just matched with a big titted, small waisted blondie cougar, who had a rare leukemia twice, who has a titanium jaw bone now.

Will report back on her blowjob skills.

[Ringo]

(06-02-2017 09:33 AM)Truth Tiger Wrote:  

...

Great post, TT.

[Jetset]

(06-08-2017 12:29 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

You may have gotten the first RVF recorded cyborg flag

Sadly, just alopecia. She did get some down the wrong pipe and had to go cough it out for about two minutes the first time I nutted in her mouth, though.

So technically, a bald virgin started to drown in my cum, which could make a pretty good rap song.

(06-08-2017 02:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I just matched with a big titted, small waisted blondie cougar, who had a rare leukemia twice, who has a titanium jaw bone now.

Will report back on her blowjob skills.

This does sound like it's going to lead to a story.

[TravelerKai]

(05-31-2017 10:38 PM)Know1234 Wrote:  

Not sure if this belongs in the newbie thread...

I grew up reading RVF - much respect to @Kaotic, @Onto, @Moma, @Rudebwoy, @Jariel, @Kai, @WIA & many others for contributing here.

Found the forum at around 21 and I'm 24 now. I've come to a fork in the road type of situation with my first ever & current relationship, and it would be helpful to get some feedback.

Background on the situation:

- Been dating a conservative, submissive and sweet 25 year old woman for roughly the past 2 years.
- She is asking for commitment now to get engaged and then get married in 2-3 years from now.
- I have always wanted a family / wife etc but my timeline for committing to do this was always around 30-34.
- She just graduated university and comes from a 2 parent household.
- Virtually no social media presence.
- Rarely argues and wants to be led (follows what I tell her to do)
- She has a naturally slim, petite built and so do all her sisters and mother. Although she does not work out, she dances and watches what
she eats (no sugar, gluten etc).
- Never heard her swear / doesn't drink anything except wine rarely.
- Understands & supports traditional gender roles due to her being a devout Christian.
- We saw each other twice a week for the past 2 years and talked on the phone almost everyday.
- Willing to be a housewife etc - not career driven.
- Does NOT believe in divorce.
- Is willing to sign any pre-nup, marriage contract etc that I ask her to

- She is still a virgin and is waiting for marriage before giving it up.
- I did not push her for sex but told her that I will have to step out of our relationship to meet other women casually.
- She hesitantly agreed to this and we never really discussed it much afterwards. I actively denied & covered up other girls that I was
casually seeing to not hurt her feelings. (had 2 semi - regular FWB's at different times over the 2 year period, but the guilt of cheating was
too much for me so I passed up on some easy chances)

Where I stand now:

- After she asked me to commit a few times, I told her that I need more time to think this through.
- She sobbed, wailed & cried for a while when I told her that I need time to think this over.
- Although, I told her that we are not a couple anymore both of us are still emotionally attached and speak & see each other frequently.
- It has been a month since the initial break up conversation, but I have not given her an answer.
- I don't want to waste her time any longer and give her an answer one way or the other.

Red flags:

- She was engaged to be married to a 40 - something year old man about 3 years ago. She broke off the engagement because he wanted her
to convert to his religion and she was / still is a practicing Christian.
- We are not the same race. I'm Indian and she is Jamaican. I grew up around Caribbean people so I know & like the culture.
- We have different faiths - I'm not particularly religious but I can see this might cause complications down the line.

How can I best approach the following questions that I'm attempting to answer:

1) I feel that I am not experienced enough at 24 after meeting only a handful of women to make a commitment to marry her 2-3 years from
now. But I can tell that she is unlike most girls I have met or hear about and I am scared that if I let her go I will regret it and not meet
someone like her.

2) Although she is cute, she is not a stunner. The thought of passing up on potential stunners after I become more established in 3-4
years and missing out on bachelor trips & other experiences single men have does make me question commitment. Although, if I had to
pick - I would pick having a happy family with kids over travelling the world & banging random women.

3) Would marrying outside of my race / religion and culture have consequences on marriage satisfaction in 10, 20, 30 years from now with
her?

4) Since I am only 24 now and starting my career etc, I'm 4-6 years away from being at my most attractive to women. Would I be selling
myself short by settling with my first serious girlfriend? I would not have considered commitment at this age had she not been so caring &
warm to be around.

Not sure if this is enough info for the membership to give their opinion / advice / feedback. Please let me know if you need more details to give your opinion here.

I realize that in the end I will have to make the call but if you guys can give me a little bit of guidance on how to approach some of the questions here, it would be appreciated.

I am honored and humbled by your kind words and if Jariel saw them he would as well.

I am just now seeing your post for the first time.

I did not read past the first page, but sometimes I peek into this section out of curiosity. I told Fortis and a few others, I do not feel like my game knowledge applies to the forum anymore. I'm too busy gaming my wife, my kids, and my parents and in-laws to be perfectly honest. My hands are full as fuck. Most stuff you guys put up with with hoes or girlfriends, I would say next on. I would much rather the others have this space to grow and advise on. Other than Archie, no one came to RVF as a complete master of game. Jariel if you look at his early posts, was a beginner just like many others. Archie is so scary he still wants to compare notes to other players. That just shows his state of mind when it comes to game.

I will try to keep it brief and to the point as best as I can.

1. If you decide to stay with this Jamaican girl you are going to have at best a decent or so-so marriage.

2. Without doxxing myself the Jamaican women I know married to guys I know here do okay. They are submissive to a point. Better than your average American or Canadian but not necessarily "optimal". Don't expect to live anywhere close to a king.

3. I don't have concerns about her being a Christian, because most Jamaicans are and many take it very seriously. You on the other hand may or may not be comfortable with it. It would be a good thing for you. Almost no Jamaican person is a Rastafarian anymore so there isn't going to be anything strange about it.

4. You are 24. While I still wish even to this day I had gotten married and had kids at that age, the woman God set aside for me to procreate with was still a teenager at that time. My exwife unbeknownst to me was not the right one for me to start a family in my delusional funk. Nothing he intends happens on your own time or terms. As I have gotten older, the more I feel as if men (especially in today's environment) are better off getting married in their late 20s and early 30s.

5. This really isn't about sex and arbitrary things like blowjobs. This is about life and your fulfilment as a man as a whole. Your legacy and your immortality. You could choose wrong and live okay-ish, or be patient, choose well and live like a king.

6. I strongly advise against older women. There is nothing. I mean absolutely NOTHING that you can tell a woman your age or older about life, the world, and the order of things. Forget about what it is to be a wife. Your father in law will be the only source of authority in that regard. For Christians there are several passages not just Timothy. You not being a Christian may hinder your ability to invoke the word of God to keep your family in order. You don't have age on her either. That means you have nothing.

7. Women get worse or decay over time. What you see now, will be worse in 5, 10, 15, and 20 years later. She might be submissive now, but later it might be worse almost to the point that you hardly recognize her once the wedding cake effect hits her.

8. Marriage has stages and milestones. The first 2 years is the hardest to make. Most divorces hit in that range. If you can make 5 years, that is another feat because you can statistically make 10 and 15 more easily. Once you hit 20 and the kids leave the house (or not), you may find that neither are attracted to each other. All you have is the bond due to kids. You both have to find a way to rekindle love for one another. You will hardly recognize each other is the way it was explained to me. There is alot of research on this.

9. Your age hurts you in this setup. Men peak at 40. You will be a much different man at 28 than you were at 24. If you are passive, much like I was, liberal at heart but with a strong value system, you will change big time. I became so alpha to the point to where it drastically affected my game near 30. I have zero patience in repeating myself to women. I expect complete submissiveness. If any bitch makes me struggle, I say next and added to my group. I went the Asia route which made it more than possible because these things are built in to these women. In the West women like this are like Catholic Nuns because it is 100% choice and super rare.

Anyway, shit you will tolerate at 24 will not be the same as things you tolerate at 28, let alone 30. I already notice things in guys in the China Crew that are getting close to 30 compared to how they were when they first got here. Expect yourself to become 10 times the alpha you might feel that you are now, in 4 years. I promise that.

10. It may hurt now, but there are more than one women out there that fit your vibe to a T. The older I get the more I realize I had affinity with many several women. My wife is not the one and only that would have been good enough at a minimum. She still is the right one in a holistic sense, but I will never put her on a pedestal even though God gave her to me. If she died tomorrow or went completely left field, he would provide another for me. My abundance mindset surpases mere individual women and circumstances. Yours should too.

In conclusion, it is up to you bro. Make the call for yourself. I don't see any major red flags except age, but that is a quality of life issue, considering all the other factors. If she will help you accomplish your goals for life and you are okay with what you can expect, go for it. If not, steel your nerve and move on in faith that you will be provided something most likely better than what you have now.

I hope this helps. I will come back to the thread to check later on.

[Lunostrelki]

Roughly speaking I agree with Kai.

Based on your descriptions of yourself and her, I'm not sure you're compatible. She's looking for a serious marriage, you're still afraid you'll regret passing up prettier girls down the road and talking about having side pieces.

[Off The Reservation]

Kai above: one of the best posts ive ever seen on rvf.

[AntiMediocrity]

There're two sides to this.

a) You can marry her, and perhaps get a wife who is rather pleasant. The sex life might be alright, maybe you'll raise your kids appropriately, and you can rest easy being out of the single's game and not having to deal with flakes, bitches etc.

The majority of the public will encourage this option, due to the "settling" phenomenon which has crept into our society on account of marriage expectations, and said phenomenon is also unfortunately prevalent because there are more and more candidates who are merely settle material rather than "everyone I'm excited to introduce you to my partner" material.

b) You can consider the above perhaps, might and maybe above and determine that with those in place and you being 24, settling with a possibility should really not be on the cards.

Any other considerations have already been written about extensively. Great posts Tiger and Kai.

[Noir]

Hey mate,

I am in a similar situation and I feel I owe a perspective here.

I skimmed through the thread.

She is 28, I just turned 26.

2.5 years in to this shit.

I come from a conservative family which want me to marry a Mediterranean woman which she is not.

Let's get the facts out of the way

- She will want to get married before I will
- I told her I don't want to get married as recently as 6 months ago. I told her I don't like her parents and wouldn't want them around my kids because they children themselves.
- All of her friends are planting seeds about this (especially the single ones)
- Her parents are planting seeds about marriage and kids
- She is wife material, no two ways about it. She is a great cook who enjoys it, she enjoys me being happy, she isn't usually selfish and generally is pleasant to be around.

The last point seems to diminish as time passes.

I have clarified with her that I do not want to marry her but I am stuck in a situation where she doesn't take it seriously.

Why do I not want to get married?

- I am not ready. Not for the responsibilities, not to give away my time and simply not ready to put the brakes on everything else. Long term for my personal ambition and short term with stress and dealing with a stupid wedding.

- I value my time more than anything else. I have lived with her for a year (which every guy should before even considering getting wedded) and would need 3 years before I consider it. Since she live together, my free time has gone to shit. Her friends will come over, your friends will come over. This is double the 'socializing' you would spend. You gotta see her family. You gotta 'comprimise' your time to do shit for the relationship and both of you.

- I want to hit my financial stride at its fullest and having a woman by my side doesn't help in the slightest. In your 20s, you're trying to gain resources, get a footing in somewhere and figure yourself out. You will be making less money than your 30s, 40s etc. This comes back to time but also, stupid shit you need to 'buy' for the relationship. This comes in the form of 'we need a bigger space', 'we need a new stove', 'we need x y z'. It's all shit which is inconsequential to us but a status symbol to her. She needs these things and in your 20s, you will be pressured to sacrifice elsewhere. This is without the buying an SUV for your new family, buying a new house for your family and all these other bs family things that you want but will be there eventually.

- She is older. I am realistic, she will hit her wall way sooner than me. After 2.5 years of living with someone, unless you are Wilt Chamberlain, your sex life will deteriorate. Your hormones are still there, you will wanna fuck every single woman you see but she doesn't get it as hard as she used to. That's a crucial sacrifice for your self-worth. I am not celibate but sometimes, it just feels taxing but it's a small price to pay to have a team.

- Teamwork. Teams work and you can get shit done but the end-game usually is different. I dig my current girl because we bring out the best of each other but again, it's law of diminishing returns. Why? It becomes a power struggle. Person A and person B start being more selfish to get leverage in the relationship. Why would they do that? Well, your self esteem, like it or not, 3 years in comes from your partner. You want to push them. They want to push you. This becomes friction.

- Cultures. Does she integrate with your culture? Are her parents together? Can you stand them? Do you want them being around your kids and raising them or even having influence on them? Is she aware of this? Do you make this known? Does she accept her role in your life and does your family like her? Does she like your family? etc.
^^ this is a big one where I am from and I noticed this with another family member marrying a 'foreigner'.

- Opportunity cost and making sound decisions. OC is straightforward, the time, money and mental 'RAM' you spend on getting married could be better spent for yourself elsewhere. Sound decisions; I am 26 and look back at 18, 20, 22, 24 and I was vastly different. I could read this post in 2 years from now and feel like I was deluded once again. Be able to step out of it and think about what is drawing you to marriage.

Personally, I am very stubborn. I did not want to get married before 30 and nothing has changed. I am in a very difficult phase of trying to let her go nicely for her own sake, without leaving her in the lurch not being able to find a husband for her end game.

There is a lot of external pressure from her family to marry me. My family apply no pressure. This also makes me a bit weary, not because they speak sense but there is a pattern of locking me down and not wanting to lock her down.

Also pressure to have kids, which I don't want for the next 5-10 years.

This is a big one because you can think you are ready for marriage but that's a different ballgame to marriage + kids. Leverage, power, perceptions of each, your love; all this shit is put under scrutiny. Unfortunately, that is the way the cookie crumbles and considered normal.

Are you ready to take a risk at 24 and marry an older woman? One who has been looking for someone like you before you even noticed she existed?

Are you ready to risk getting married and perhaps having kids and being locked up for 18 years minimum?

If so, are you 100% confident in this being your last relationship?

Do you know how her previous relationships ended? How her friends relationships are? (placebo) How her family's relationships are? Do they interfere? Have you two been tested in a relationship with some heavy shit? Will she be supportive? Is she clingy? Is she jealous? Are you ready to say goodbye to most of your friends, single or not? Does she have ambition? Why does she want to marry a younger guy? How many guys has she liven with?


With any single milestone in life, ask yourself, am I making the best possible decision right now, with the information available to me?
If not, do you need more information or is it a bad idea?

Life is all about minimizing shit decisions and maximizing good ones in the form of opportunity, creation and risk.

Talk to married people. Talk to divorced people. Talk to people who did it at various ages. Look for patterns but fundamentally, tie this to you. Is this what you want or is this what she wants? If it's what she wants, are you in the frame of making her happy above doing what's right for your future?

The irony is that your mutual future depends on your future. While it may not seem that way in 2017, it will feel that way to you as a man. If this isn't a good decision for your future, then be honest to yourself.

Don't feel like you gotta be nice to others at the expense of yourself and the fact that she is asking you is a test, purposeful or not; She knows her expiry date is around the corner and you gotta respect that, she is being honest.

Just my two cents as a guy in a similar situation, age and older girlfriend.

p.s. Kai, I would rep you again if I hadn't already, that's a very interesting perspective from an older guy who has been there and done that.

[TravelerKai]

Noir makes some excellent points I forgot about.

Those in-laws.

If the OP does not like them it is not worth it at all.

My inlaws are super nice to me. The complete opposite of my exwife's parents that called the police on me claiming I kidnapped their daughter, among many other hateful things they did to me. My exwife's parents are probably 85% of why I had to leave her. She did not want kids which was huge problem but I could have forced that issue and gotten it my way, but her parents would have abused her in front of the kids, or the kids themselves, and been a nightmare to deal with.

If you marry a woman, you marry her parents. Period. Meeting a wife candidate's parents should always be top of the list in terms of priorities. Also, you should spend at least a week straight with them to see how they are, because they wear dating masks too and you need to see if you can catch dysfunction before it is too late.

[rudebwoy]

(06-16-2017 06:38 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Hey mate,

I am in a similar situation and I feel I owe a perspective here.

I skimmed through the thread.

She is 28, I just turned 26.

2.5 years in to this shit.

I come from a conservative family which want me to marry a Mediterranean woman which she is not.

Let's get the facts out of the way

- She will want to get married before I will
- I told her I don't want to get married as recently as 6 months ago. I told her I don't like her parents and wouldn't want them around my kids because they children themselves.
- All of her friends are planting seeds about this (especially the single ones)
- Her parents are planting seeds about marriage and kids
- She is wife material, no two ways about it. She is a great cook who enjoys it, she enjoys me being happy, she isn't usually selfish and generally is pleasant to be around.

The last point seems to diminish as time passes.

I have clarified with her that I do not want to marry her but I am stuck in a situation where she doesn't take it seriously.

Why do I not want to get married?

- I am not ready. Not for the responsibilities, not to give away my time and simply not ready to put the brakes on everything else. Long term for my personal ambition and short term with stress and dealing with a stupid wedding.

- I value my time more than anything else. I have lived with her for a year (which every guy should before even considering getting wedded) and would need 3 years before I consider it. Since she live together, my free time has gone to shit. Her friends will come over, your friends will come over. This is double the 'socializing' you would spend. You gotta see her family. You gotta 'comprimise' your time to do shit for the relationship and both of you.

- I want to hit my financial stride at its fullest and having a woman by my side doesn't help in the slightest. In your 20s, you're trying to gain resources, get a footing in somewhere and figure yourself out. You will be making less money than your 30s, 40s etc. This comes back to time but also, stupid shit you need to 'buy' for the relationship. This comes in the form of 'we need a bigger space', 'we need a new stove', 'we need x y z'. It's all shit which is inconsequential to us but a status symbol to her. She needs these things and in your 20s, you will be pressured to sacrifice elsewhere. This is without the buying an SUV for your new family, buying a new house for your family and all these other bs family things that you want but will be there eventually.

- She is older. I am realistic, she will hit her wall way sooner than me. After 2.5 years of living with someone, unless you are Wilt Chamberlain, your sex life will deteriorate. Your hormones are still there, you will wanna fuck every single woman you see but she doesn't get it as hard as she used to. That's a crucial sacrifice for your self-worth. I am not celibate but sometimes, it just feels taxing but it's a small price to pay to have a team.

- Teamwork. Teams work and you can get shit done but the end-game usually is different. I dig my current girl because we bring out the best of each other but again, it's law of diminishing returns. Why? It becomes a power struggle. Person A and person B start being more selfish to get leverage in the relationship. Why would they do that? Well, your self esteem, like it or not, 3 years in comes from your partner. You want to push them. They want to push you. This becomes friction.

- Cultures. Does she integrate with your culture? Are her parents together? Can you stand them? Do you want them being around your kids and raising them or even having influence on them? Is she aware of this? Do you make this known? Does she accept her role in your life and does your family like her? Does she like your family? etc.
^^ this is a big one where I am from and I noticed this with another family member marrying a 'foreigner'.

- Opportunity cost and making sound decisions. OC is straightforward, the time, money and mental 'RAM' you spend on getting married could be better spent for yourself elsewhere. Sound decisions; I am 26 and look back at 18, 20, 22, 24 and I was vastly different. I could read this post in 2 years from now and feel like I was deluded once again. Be able to step out of it and think about what is drawing you to marriage.

Personally, I am very stubborn. I did not want to get married before 30 and nothing has changed. I am in a very difficult phase of trying to let her go nicely for her own sake, without leaving her in the lurch not being able to find a husband for her end game.

There is a lot of external pressure from her family to marry me. My family apply no pressure. This also makes me a bit weary, not because they speak sense but there is a pattern of locking me down and not wanting to lock her down.

Also pressure to have kids, which I don't want for the next 5-10 years.

This is a big one because you can think you are ready for marriage but that's a different ballgame to marriage + kids. Leverage, power, perceptions of each, your love; all this shit is put under scrutiny. Unfortunately, that is the way the cookie crumbles and considered normal.

Are you ready to take a risk at 24 and marry an older woman? One who has been looking for someone like you before you even noticed she existed?

Are you ready to risk getting married and perhaps having kids and being locked up for 18 years minimum?

If so, are you 100% confident in this being your last relationship?

Do you know how her previous relationships ended? How her friends relationships are? (placebo) How her family's relationships are? Do they interfere? Have you two been tested in a relationship with some heavy shit? Will she be supportive? Is she clingy? Is she jealous? Are you ready to say goodbye to most of your friends, single or not? Does she have ambition? Why does she want to marry a younger guy? How many guys has she liven with?


With any single milestone in life, ask yourself, am I making the best possible decision right now, with the information available to me?
If not, do you need more information or is it a bad idea?

Life is all about minimizing shit decisions and maximizing good ones in the form of opportunity, creation and risk.

Talk to married people. Talk to divorced people. Talk to people who did it at various ages. Look for patterns but fundamentally, tie this to you. Is this what you want or is this what she wants? If it's what she wants, are you in the frame of making her happy above doing what's right for your future?

The irony is that your mutual future depends on your future. While it may not seem that way in 2017, it will feel that way to you as a man. If this isn't a good decision for your future, then be honest to yourself.

Don't feel like you gotta be nice to others at the expense of yourself and the fact that she is asking you is a test, purposeful or not; She knows her expiry date is around the corner and you gotta respect that, she is being honest.

Just my two cents as a guy in a similar situation, age and older girlfriend.

p.s. Kai, I would rep you again if I hadn't already, that's a very interesting perspective from an older guy who has been there and done that.

Must read post for every young guy on this forum.

+1

#real talk.....thread closed.

[rudebwoy]

@Kai - apologies mate, I read your fantastic post after I read the Noir post.

Your mindset is perfect.

[General Mayhem]

(06-16-2017 06:38 AM)Noir Wrote:  

If so, are you 100% confident in this being your last relationship?

Do you know how her previous relationships ended? How her friends relationships are? (placebo) How her family's relationships are? Do they interfere? Have you two been tested in a relationship with some heavy shit? Will she be supportive? Is she clingy? Is she jealous? Are you ready to say goodbye to most of your friends, single or not? Does she have ambition? Why does she want to marry a younger guy? How many guys has she liven with?

Not going to quote the whole post but I am in the same situation. Only difference is that my girl is younger than me by a few years. I cosign everything noir said and pulled what I believe to be the most important part.

When it comes to this point we face a tough decision as men. My girl is great, checks most of the boxes, but there are a couple things that make me hesitant to think that I should marry her.

She comes from a completely dysfunctional family. Not just her parents and siblings but the whole extended family to boot. Absolute shit show. This matters more than most people understand. I have had to wage deep psychological war on a her mind to undo some of the fuckery that her family imbued in her.

What it really comes down to though, like noir said, is not being ready yourself.

Women are a time sink. The time they save cooking and cleaning doesn't make up for all of your time that they waste with stupid shit. Remember this. This will be a huge obstacle to your ambitions in life. You better be sure you are strong enough to keep the ship going in the right direction.

I feel like I set expectations from the start that I didn't want any kind of marriage until 30. No women will let that stop them from pushing the issue though. In your mind she would wait for you to be ready for it if she really valued you. In her mind if you really valued her you wouldn't want to wait.

All the pressure from society is on her side and that doesn't help.

We live a great life but I still just don't feel compelled to lock it down for good. We will see what happens during and after the upcoming holiday season. Last year she thought that was going to be it, but it wasn't. Those were tough times. This year it might be where the rubber meets the road.

[Lunostrelki]

General, a good woman should respect the ambitions of her man and allow him time for that. If she doesn't, either she's not a suitable mate, or your ambitions haven't convinced her they're worth sacrificing some of your time together for.

That being said I would be very careful around a woman with a bad family. Isolating her from her kin could take off some of the negatives, but it might not be feasible.

[Stakes Is High]

sexual chemistry is huge.. if you are considering marriage, there is some level of fidelity you must uphold,although it seems she is open to at least negotiating your ability to step out..

for me to simply be in a FWB situation, or simply hang with a woman more than 3+ times she needs to be an ideal sexual partner.