[GlobalMan]

(05-27-2017 06:54 PM)Repo Wrote:  

After that thread where people argued a girls bang count was more important than body count, its hard to tell.

^bingo

After all the aspie posts around here about virgins a few months ago I guess I took it literally when I shouldn't have

[RatInTheWoods]

"I don't really like giving blowjobs honey"

[Leonard D Neubache]

I can understand if OP just wants to cross this ocean or climb this mountain for the sense of accomplishment. The girls says "no" and he wants to break her to his will. It's not going to be the fastest way to get his dick sucked but a challenge is a challenge and often undertaken for it's own sake.

Me? I'd start out a nice night with her and do everything right. When you know she's down to fuck you start initiating and at some point stand over her and flop your dick out as if a blow job is the most commonly expected thing in the world.

This is the hard part (no pun intended). You have to be 100% committed. Total frame. None of this raised eyebrow shit wondering if she's going to do it or not. You borderline have to be controlling her mind as a dominant act of will.

Be prepared for this to fail. It's part of the plan. When she recoils and asks "what are you doing" even though she knows what's expected of her, you sigh, you zip up and you get your coat on. If she asks why you're leaving (knowing full well the answer) you tell her "shit between us is getting too boring and predictable and it's just not doing it for me any more." No anger. Just disappointment.

She might relent at this point and sigh "oh, fine then." Don't fall for that trap. You tell her "sorry, but the moment is over. Maybe some other time."

And you walk. That last part should be super easy if you have tons of other options.

Anal? As above but fuck her doggy style a bit and then ease upstairs. When she tells you to stop proceed as above.

Turn your phone off for the rest of the night and if she calls you the next day you maintain frame and set up a meet. You arrive, find a suitable spot to sit down and have your dick sucked. You manspread, all while having said little to nothing. At that point she either initiates sex with a blowjob or you get quickly bored and tell her you've got other appointments and leave.

Don't answer calls or texts until the next day.

At some point either she's going to suck dick or stop calling.

The big mistake was talking about it first. You've allowed her to create an industry standard out of thin air, declare it and determine your response which was obviously less than robust. Don't talk about that shit with girls because their answer is always going to lean in the direction of "I'm not a whore". When I was younger there were girls who would have loved to suck my dick or take it in the ass but I was stupid enough to bring up the subject early and they weren't exactly going to say "oh yes, please, since I'm such a fucking slut." And from that point on they'd created a social barrier that had to be honoured, whereas if I'd just made out with them on the couch then got up and flopped my cock out like it was the most normal thing in the world they would have inhaled it without a second thought.

[Jetset]

LTR learned early on that sucking cock was part of her job description. "Get on your knees" is no more controversial than "make some more iced tea". Sometimes I just have her suck it for a few minutes to make a point.

You've set the wrong tone somewhere. Oral sex is not degrading. Slapping her in the face with your cock while she's on the phone with her sister might be degrading, but if you've set the right tone, she shouldn't protest that, either.

If you've got her buying you stuff, she may see herself as the leader and think she is already doing her end.

[Ringo]

(05-27-2017 02:30 PM)youngblazer Wrote:  

2) she's lying down, play with her puss while you're standing and your junk is in her face

This.

I always use this as a test when I'm banging a new girl:

I'm on top of her making out and rubbing up against her body. We're both wearing our underwear.

I get off and take her panties off. Kneel by her side or lay down with one of their legs in between mine. Continue kissing, start playing with their pussy and fingering them. Give it 2 or 3 minutes, tease her.

When she's into it, disengage, take off your underwear and go back to the same position, continue playing with her pussy.

Does she grab the dick?

When she gets into it again, I kneel beside her body, one hand on the pussy, one hand on the head/neck area, and stand tall - dick palpitating in front and above their head.

If she hadn't already, does she grab the dick? Does she start to suck it without any more hinting? If she doesn't, does she respond when you try to pull her head towards it?

This is a great thermometer to check how attracted and submissive a girl is towards you.

[ksbms]

Why not just grabbing her firmly by her hair and shoving your dick in her mouth? Much simpler.

[Jetset]

(05-28-2017 05:23 PM)Ringo Wrote:  

This is a great thermometer to check how attracted and submissive a girl is towards you.

Sonny's Door Test from "A Bronx Tale", but with dicks.



I agree, though. If she's not as game for getting you off as you are for getting her off, it *does* mean she's a selfish broad and all you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg.

[Robtormar]

UPDATE: oral has happened since my last post. It was honestly extremely easy just like I expected. A good reminder to never trust what comes out of a woman'a mouth. How it went down : girl keeps texting me since last bang that she can't stop thinking about me, "I'm so horny I could put my lips on your dick" I think to myself who the fuck says that man, cheesy as fuck. I don't reply back. Two days later I text her to come over. She shows up with lingerie... I tell her to get on her knees and proceed to put my dick in her mouth.

Anal is next, now I believe this is gonna be a little bit tougher since she's never done it. Like Leonard mentioned, only reason I'm invested in this is for the sense of accomplishment. I don't know why but when a girl tells me she won't do something sexually it kind of fuels me to try to do it even more.

[wi30]

(05-31-2017 11:56 PM)Robtormar Wrote:  

UPDATE: oral has happened since my last post. It was honestly extremely easy just like I expected. A good reminder to never trust what comes out of a woman'a mouth. How it went down : girl keeps texting me since last bang that she can't stop thinking about me, "I'm so horny I could put my lips on your dick" I think to myself who the fuck says that man, cheesy as fuck. I don't reply back. Two days later I text her to come over. She shows up with lingerie... I tell her to get on her knees and proceed to put my dick in her mouth.

Anal is next, now I believe this is gonna be a little bit tougher since she's never done it. Like Leonard mentioned, only reason I'm invested in this is for the sense of accomplishment. I don't know why but when a girl tells me she won't do something sexually it kind of fuels me to try to do it even more.

[Fortis]

If a girl wouldn't give me a blowjob that's a hard next. I've had girls pull that and I never see them again after that. That's just not acceptable.

[SHDAD75]

Since she is now willing to suck your dick even though she claimed it was "degrading" in the past, I think the next step towards anal is to start the dirty talk / role play by giving her spankings and calling her a "naughty girl" at first, and then work your way up to "dirty whore". At the dirty whore stage, start the ass play.

[meetjoeblack]

(05-27-2017 11:18 AM)Robtormar Wrote:  

Hey fellow players. I recently got a fwb and she says that she finds giving head degrading and she told me that anal would probably be a no no since she's never done that and has no interest. Now I know better than to listen to a woman's bullshit. I'm her first FWB and and I can tell she is not very experienced in bed so I'm sure I can make her do whatever I want with a little bit more time. Y'all got any tips to ease her into head and anal.

Worst FWB ever TS.

Jakes on you brah. You don't ask or get into discussions. The same girl would be swallowing the alpha males proteins after taking it in the ass.

Yes, get her wet as fuck, smash her into oblivion, and then, nut on her face. Women love it a girl tells me after I told her about blowing on a college girls face. She was 21. Feels good man.

[bigolteddies]

(05-27-2017 11:32 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 11:18 AM)Robtormar Wrote:  

Hey fellow players. I recently got a fwb and she says that she finds giving head degrading and she told me that anal would probably be a no no since she's never done that and has no interest. Now I know better than to listen to a woman's bullshit. I'm her first FWB and and I can tell she is not very experienced in bed so I'm sure I can make her do whatever I want with a little bit more time. Y'all got any tips to ease her into head and anal.

this

[MaceTyrell]

Yeah. Back burner this bitch for real for real.

[treypound]

(05-27-2017 06:40 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Shes just not that into you.

Head is for the dude she loves.

I was thinking the same. A girl in 2017 that says she doesn't give head just doesn't give head to the guy she is saying that nonsense too.