Expanding the "red pill" definition to class barriers and Establishment manipulation.
05-23-2017, 01:47 PM
OK, as suggested in the "Why do supertalented/capable people become criminals" thread, I'm opening up this thread as a spin off thread about "class corruption and discrimination" etc.
Its fairly easy to summarise some of the key concepts of Red Pill culture, as understood across various forums. They centre around manipulative behaviour of women. A manipulative media attempting to attack masculinity and create a species of effeminate men and masculinised women. The next tenet of Red Pill is possibly a condemnation of the large waves of 3rd World immigration the West is experiencing. Togther with a general erosion of "traditional values".
Well I think that there's a strong case for expanding the defintion of Red Pill. I would have it including a manipulation of our environment by Establishment groups. In particular, the way in which we are always told we live in meritocracies, but on closer examination that assurance crumbles away. Ofcourse this is an issue in England where I live. But I don't think it would be much of an issue say in somewhere like Germany.
America is less of a class based society than Britain, in my view. But it does seem to be class based in other ways. For instance, sons, brothers and wives of presidents angling to become president themselves. And the Ivy League phenomenon.
Have you had experience of what is termed "class corruption". By that, I mean you lost some opportunity, job offer or other position because you didn't go to the right high school/come from a particular family or childhood social class? Are you angry at that? Or perhaps you are from a wealthy family and consider it "your right" to exclude those from less wealthy families?
I myself always thought that by working hard in school, I would get good jobs very rapidly on merit. But a little like a friend who was "called by the Dark Side", I realised that what I was being told was in large part, a load of lies. So I started my own buisiness instead.
Do you think something should be done about "class discrimination or corruption"? If so, what? And do you consider it part of awakening to "red pill reality"? Or do you consider your country to be very merit based without any class based issues?
Its fairly easy to summarise some of the key concepts of Red Pill culture, as understood across various forums. They centre around manipulative behaviour of women. A manipulative media attempting to attack masculinity and create a species of effeminate men and masculinised women. The next tenet of Red Pill is possibly a condemnation of the large waves of 3rd World immigration the West is experiencing. Togther with a general erosion of "traditional values".
Well I think that there's a strong case for expanding the defintion of Red Pill. I would have it including a manipulation of our environment by Establishment groups. In particular, the way in which we are always told we live in meritocracies, but on closer examination that assurance crumbles away. Ofcourse this is an issue in England where I live. But I don't think it would be much of an issue say in somewhere like Germany.
America is less of a class based society than Britain, in my view. But it does seem to be class based in other ways. For instance, sons, brothers and wives of presidents angling to become president themselves. And the Ivy League phenomenon.
Have you had experience of what is termed "class corruption". By that, I mean you lost some opportunity, job offer or other position because you didn't go to the right high school/come from a particular family or childhood social class? Are you angry at that? Or perhaps you are from a wealthy family and consider it "your right" to exclude those from less wealthy families?
I myself always thought that by working hard in school, I would get good jobs very rapidly on merit. But a little like a friend who was "called by the Dark Side", I realised that what I was being told was in large part, a load of lies. So I started my own buisiness instead.
Do you think something should be done about "class discrimination or corruption"? If so, what? And do you consider it part of awakening to "red pill reality"? Or do you consider your country to be very merit based without any class based issues?