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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Chocolate is so expensive in the Ivory Coast that men who grow the cocoa beans cannot afford to eat it. They are extremely happy to try it, and remark that chocolate must be the reason that white people are "so healthy."




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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

So this is what they mean by "fair trade" [Image: lol.gif]
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Not many fat people in that vid.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

El oh el.

I half-expected them to be like "what the fuck? This is it? It's decent, but overrated as fuck."

Quote: (05-18-2017 04:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

They are extremely happy to try it, and remark that chocolate must be the reason that white people are "so healthy."

This would make a great Hitler parody video--Hitler trying chocolate for the first time.

Hitler: "Wow, this 'chocolate' is great... no wonder those imbeciles that call themselves 'Allies' are so healthy."
*Peons exchange nervous glances*
Peon 1: "Mein fuhrer... Mein fuhrer..."
Peon 2: "Mein fuhrer... actually chocolate and related foods are the leading cause of death among 'Allies.' Chocolates and such foods kill 'Allies' much more efficiently than we could ever hope to."

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Quote: (05-18-2017 04:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Chocolate is so expensive in the Ivory Coast that men who grow the cocoa beans cannot afford to eat it.

Most people can't afford the goods/services they produce (albeit it's tough to gauge, what's meant by "afford"?, economies of scale, yadayada). This actually seems to get "worse" as you climb up the income-scale--the median fast food worker could likely eat fast food burgers consistently, but it's unlikely a hot-shot private wealth manager could afford to hire a clone of himself.

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Imagine how hard these poor guys work all day under the hot sun in a country plagued by civil war, they likely get paid a dollar or less per hour but there they are laughing and joking like they don't have a care in the world.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

They're going to have to work a little bit harder, because speculators
have pushed cocoa prices down. There were a lot of bets on a bad crop
in the Ivory Coast the last few years but that hasn't materialized:

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Chocolate prices shot up a few years ago, they've settled down to more
reasonable levels lately.

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:02 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?

Ah... do you mean free-range, grass-fed, non-GMO chocolate?

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:02 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?

It's because of decolonization that we have to resort to third world sources. It used to be that you could get your cocoa from first world countries like France.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

You still can get first world cocoa. Let's get Kona's datasheet on the local goods:

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:18 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:02 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?

It's because of decolonization that we have to resort to third world sources. It used to be that you could get your cocoa from first world countries like France.

Care to explain? Where you actually buying it from France or just French colonies?
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:02 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?

You want to help Chokumbo by putting him out of a job?

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 05:33 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Imagine how hard these poor guys work all day under the hot sun in a country plagued by civil war, they likely get paid a dollar or less per hour but there they are laughing and joking like they don't have a care in the world.

It is amazing. A totally different world. Puts things in perspective.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

What struck me most about the vid is that these guys have likely been farming & harvesting cacao for years (if not generations), yet claimed not to know what it was used for.

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:21 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

What struck me most about the vid is that these guys have likely been farming & harvesting cacao for years (if not generations), yet claimed not to know what it was used for.

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.

Having been on military deployment, I would tend to concur with this sentiment. Would be curious to hear from people who've been to the African continent as well.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 06:02 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Is there chocolate you can buy that isn't sourced like this, in the 3rd world?

Tony's Chocolonely

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Chocolonely? A chocolate bar for single, bitter old cat ladies?

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Pretty crazy that they didnt know, what the beans are used for. I mean, come on, you work there all your life and you never wonder what those beans are actually for? WTF
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:28 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:21 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

What struck me most about the vid is that these guys have likely been farming & harvesting cacao for years (if not generations), yet claimed not to know what it was used for.

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.

Having been on military deployment, I would tend to concur with this sentiment. Would be curious to hear from people who've been to the African continent as well.

I dated a girl from an upper class in Ivory Coast. Some of these people living out in the jungle are so dirt poor they are lucky to have one meal a day, and are so poor they never even got the chance to ever attend school. Sometimes kids are sent to work these plantations as soon as they are old enough to help support the family, think like 6-7. So they are so uneducated they simply don't know what they don't know, and have accepted their place in the world. The ones that refuse to accept are the ones who may end up in one of the rebel groups or militias in the country.

Anyway, it is hard to worry the bigger picture when you are struggling day and night for your next meal. Something something heirarcy of needs, their basic needs are barely met.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:33 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  

Chocolonely? A chocolate bar for single, bitter old cat ladies?

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

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I dated a girl from an upper class in Ivory Coast. Some of these people living out in the jungle are so dirt poor they are lucky to have one meal a day, and are so poor they never even got the chance to ever attend school.

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Birth rate is still ~3 times higher than USA or Europe. [Image: lol.gif]

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

From our perspective these guys have nothing. They're illiterate peasants who do manual labor all day in the tropical heat. But they seem rather content with their lot, jolly even. It's very interesting to see. It makes you realize that we are the weird ones (we, meaning people living with the benefit of advanced technology in Western countries). We're the ones completely out of step with the vast majority of human beings who ever lived, whose lives had much more in common with these happy cocoa farmers than they did with ours. Modern life is an almost totally artificial construct. We worry about things like going bald, or the size of our muscles, or the difficulty of securing sex through hookup apps, or the value of numbers on a screen. These guys' worries are much simpler, much more human, much more immediate. It's why they seem so happy despite living in what we would consider a state of utter poverty and destitution. Their lives have inherent meaning - survival. Each day is its own reward. The journey is the destination. Every day they can get up and move around and have some cocoa to harvest with their friends, they're happy. That's all they need. Another day in the books. This is the natural state of human beings, it's the natural psychological framework that makes for a healthy human mind. Death, that wonderful motivator, is a constant presence just outside the door. Never forgotten, never exiled away until the very end, never denied and papered over with the innumerable distractions that clutter the modern Western life. For these guys, and for most humans who ever lived, there was only life and death. And as long as you were on the right side of that equation, you were feeling pretty good. That's all it took. There was no existential angst or finding oneself or search for greater meaning. Living was meaning enough. There's something very refreshing about that. It's been almost entirely lost to us, and we suffer for that.

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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:40 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:28 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:21 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

What struck me most about the vid is that these guys have likely been farming & harvesting cacao for years (if not generations), yet claimed not to know what it was used for.

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.

Having been on military deployment, I would tend to concur with this sentiment. Would be curious to hear from people who've been to the African continent as well.

I dated a girl from an upper class in Ivory Coast. Some of these people living out in the jungle are so dirt poor they are lucky to have one meal a day, and are so poor they never even got the chance to ever attend school. Sometimes kids are sent to work these plantations as soon as they are old enough to help support the family, think like 6-7. So they are so uneducated they simply don't know what they don't know, and have accepted their place in the world. The ones that refuse to accept are the ones who may end up in one of the rebel groups or militias in the country.

Anyway, it is hard to worry the bigger picture when you are struggling day and night for your next meal. Something something heirarcy of needs, their basic needs are barely met.

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Somewhat relevant old finance joke; you can substitute "Mexican" for your preferred Noble Savage:

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The American Dream

An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.

"How long it took you to catch them?" The American asked.

"Only a little while." The Mexican replied.

"Why don't you stay out longer and catch more fish?" The American then asked.

"I have enough to support my family's immediate needs." The Mexican said.

"But," The American then asked, "What do you do with the rest of your time?"

The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor."

The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats."

"Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But senor, how long will this all take?"

To which the American replied, "15-20 years."

"But what then, senor?"

The American laughed and said, "That's the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions."

"Millions, senor? Then what?"

The American said slowly, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos..."

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Quote: (05-18-2017 07:21 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.

Good observation. That's a familiar mindset where I am, the lack of curiosity about how things work, about why things are the way they are, about what could be different.

To look at it in the other direction, how many chocolate consumers know where chocolate comes from? Honestly I never thought much about it. I recently tried dark chocolate (100% cacao, low carb). From what I had heard, I assumed it would taste like cardboard, but it was perfectly fine.
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African cocoa farmers try chocolate for the first time

Quote: (05-18-2017 07:21 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

What struck me most about the vid is that these guys have likely been farming & harvesting cacao for years (if not generations), yet claimed not to know what it was used for.

I can't help but think that this is a key insight into the mindset of people in this part of the world. Hardworking, no doubt, but with little intellectual curiosity. They just get up every day and do their tasks in order to eke out a bare subsistence living, with no thought of the larger meaning or significance of their work in the world.

A couple guys in Africa isn't a key insight.

So when Westerners eat chocolate they must wonder where it comes from? hows it grown? who grows it?

Actually they just eat it and enjoy it.
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