I'm dreading where this thread will wind up (Charlton Heston is surely waiting for his moment to laugh at my expense) but I'll give it a shot because this situation is tailor-made for this.
I said in the online dating threads that women tend to get really active on Sundays during the day. Maybe it's sort of depression over not having gotten a date the previous night or maybe they did and it was a dud. But I just know they are busy on the dating sites around this time.
By some stroke of good luck on CmB I got a match with someone who looked vaguely Indian or middle-eastern. After some texting she revealed she's Iranian (Persian). She's 38 and no kids, thin. I'd classify her as HB7. Most here would probably call her a 6 but I'm grading her on a sliding scale based on what I've gotten before and what I can hope to get at my current age and looks.
The reason she's 38 and no kids I think has to do with whatever happened that led her to the US in 2011 to pursue an advanced degree. This is the Boston area so overeducated women are commonplace. Despite the educational track her english is a little on the rough side.
Now, I've done a little skimming through the Persian chicks thread here and the article on ROK and don't find either immediately useful. This is sort of a nerdy persian chick and although I haven't figured it out yet, I don't think she's in close contact with her family or any sort of local Persian community, so there might be limited pressure on her to follow traditional behaviors.
I kind of see her more as a generic AWALT, but I am going to have to assess the situation at light-speed since I have a dinner date with her tomorrow night after work. It was going to be a lunch-date but then she threw out the idea of meeting after and even though I told her "well, if we do that, it will feel like more of a real date" she was down with that, which is a good sign.
The other good sign has to do with a dating anecdote she told me. Well, it's part of her baggage. She said she was wound up banging a guy multiple times in a week who revealed he couldn't get off fully without being pegged up the ass.
Unlike some here, I don't have any great need to perform kinky sex acts. So to some, her aversion to pegging guys might be seen as a red-flag. But on the flip-side she's just told me in the first text session that she was screwing a guy like crazy. It's the sort of lifestyle that I'm not at all used to. Single parent to single parent one date night a week and screwing around in a car in the back of a parking lot or booking a hotel is what I'm used to. A constant up-hill battle against logistics.
I largely wrote off pursuing women with no kids because if they're in their late 30s there is probably some really messed up reason why they never had them, and either way, they're going to wind up nagging me to give them one when I am looking forward to becoming an empty-nester soon.
A woman's long-term objectives are not something that enters into the mix much here, and so for this particular situation, because it seems things seem to be falling into my lap, I'd rather seize whatever opportunity is here while I can and capture an Iranian flag.
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As to tactics...
What has worked for me in the past has been to fine-tune what used to be my standard beta orbiter behavior into what people call "comfort game".
By using the online dating I avoid cold approach and enter comfort game.
So it doesn't take much of an opening for the conversation to veer over to dating anecdotes, which I know is generally taboo, but it's still part and parcel of my comfort game. Given the fact that most women have a litany of horror stories from online dating I feel it works well to present myself as an antidote. Even if I'm not the "type" they usually go for (i.e. too beta bux, too dadbod) they might be inclined to let me take a spin on their carousel as an experiment.
What they don't know is that, looks and demeanor aside, I can hold my own in the sack. So if I can take it that far I can probably spin the plate for a reasonable length of tme before they monkeybranch off.
Where I am now is we're still in the texting stage and I have to pick a restaurant for tomorrow. I should probably get back to her with a recommendation within the next 3-4 hours tops.
I'm not quite sure how to handle the actual dinner date, whether it should be tailored specifically for Persian chicks or what. I do need to stay congruent with my comfort game, though, so I can't just flip on a dime and start negging and clowning around.
The cool thing here is logistics, though. I have not really been in a situation to date a woman without kids in a very long time. The bad logistics is why I usually played it safe and traditional. The exception was with the clinger where we resorted to the car. The autistic chick I tried dating was not living with her kids, but her aversion to touch screwed up me trying to escalate that one. Knowing this one has no kids and lives alone means anytime I see her I could in theory get the bang that evening at her place. She's gonna know it. I'm gonna know it. It's on the table from the get-go that one thing could just lead to another.
So I'm ready for the barrage of advice. Let's see what you guys say.
I said in the online dating threads that women tend to get really active on Sundays during the day. Maybe it's sort of depression over not having gotten a date the previous night or maybe they did and it was a dud. But I just know they are busy on the dating sites around this time.
By some stroke of good luck on CmB I got a match with someone who looked vaguely Indian or middle-eastern. After some texting she revealed she's Iranian (Persian). She's 38 and no kids, thin. I'd classify her as HB7. Most here would probably call her a 6 but I'm grading her on a sliding scale based on what I've gotten before and what I can hope to get at my current age and looks.
The reason she's 38 and no kids I think has to do with whatever happened that led her to the US in 2011 to pursue an advanced degree. This is the Boston area so overeducated women are commonplace. Despite the educational track her english is a little on the rough side.
Now, I've done a little skimming through the Persian chicks thread here and the article on ROK and don't find either immediately useful. This is sort of a nerdy persian chick and although I haven't figured it out yet, I don't think she's in close contact with her family or any sort of local Persian community, so there might be limited pressure on her to follow traditional behaviors.
I kind of see her more as a generic AWALT, but I am going to have to assess the situation at light-speed since I have a dinner date with her tomorrow night after work. It was going to be a lunch-date but then she threw out the idea of meeting after and even though I told her "well, if we do that, it will feel like more of a real date" she was down with that, which is a good sign.
The other good sign has to do with a dating anecdote she told me. Well, it's part of her baggage. She said she was wound up banging a guy multiple times in a week who revealed he couldn't get off fully without being pegged up the ass.
Unlike some here, I don't have any great need to perform kinky sex acts. So to some, her aversion to pegging guys might be seen as a red-flag. But on the flip-side she's just told me in the first text session that she was screwing a guy like crazy. It's the sort of lifestyle that I'm not at all used to. Single parent to single parent one date night a week and screwing around in a car in the back of a parking lot or booking a hotel is what I'm used to. A constant up-hill battle against logistics.
I largely wrote off pursuing women with no kids because if they're in their late 30s there is probably some really messed up reason why they never had them, and either way, they're going to wind up nagging me to give them one when I am looking forward to becoming an empty-nester soon.
A woman's long-term objectives are not something that enters into the mix much here, and so for this particular situation, because it seems things seem to be falling into my lap, I'd rather seize whatever opportunity is here while I can and capture an Iranian flag.
----------------------
As to tactics...
What has worked for me in the past has been to fine-tune what used to be my standard beta orbiter behavior into what people call "comfort game".
By using the online dating I avoid cold approach and enter comfort game.
So it doesn't take much of an opening for the conversation to veer over to dating anecdotes, which I know is generally taboo, but it's still part and parcel of my comfort game. Given the fact that most women have a litany of horror stories from online dating I feel it works well to present myself as an antidote. Even if I'm not the "type" they usually go for (i.e. too beta bux, too dadbod) they might be inclined to let me take a spin on their carousel as an experiment.
What they don't know is that, looks and demeanor aside, I can hold my own in the sack. So if I can take it that far I can probably spin the plate for a reasonable length of tme before they monkeybranch off.
Where I am now is we're still in the texting stage and I have to pick a restaurant for tomorrow. I should probably get back to her with a recommendation within the next 3-4 hours tops.
I'm not quite sure how to handle the actual dinner date, whether it should be tailored specifically for Persian chicks or what. I do need to stay congruent with my comfort game, though, so I can't just flip on a dime and start negging and clowning around.
The cool thing here is logistics, though. I have not really been in a situation to date a woman without kids in a very long time. The bad logistics is why I usually played it safe and traditional. The exception was with the clinger where we resorted to the car. The autistic chick I tried dating was not living with her kids, but her aversion to touch screwed up me trying to escalate that one. Knowing this one has no kids and lives alone means anytime I see her I could in theory get the bang that evening at her place. She's gonna know it. I'm gonna know it. It's on the table from the get-go that one thing could just lead to another.
So I'm ready for the barrage of advice. Let's see what you guys say.