[Jetset]

(04-18-2017 10:46 AM)RogerB Wrote:  

One goal is to get advice how to shorten the game to get a bang to say after 10 - 15 minutes.

What you're doing isn't "game".

You need to extend the game to 24/7, not compress it to 15 minutes. You need to be setting a tone in the home that communicates the rules of the relationship and what her job is, that sex isn't just something she is persuaded to do but an essential part of her presence in your life.

Look, I have been in an LTR for some years. I set the tone early on that I keep my balls drained, that I like frequent vigorous sex, and that if she isn't keeping up, she's failing at something basic. The overall message was that fucking was a hobby of mine before she came along, that I think she's great at it, and that I'm going to continue spending a lot of time on it for the foreseeable future whether she's there or not. This was mainly a "lead by example" situation where she had to be trained that our time together will always end with, sometimes begin with, and sometimes be interrupted by sex.

I didn't know much about formal "game" and I still don't, but I knew what I needed in my life and she got the hint. This, and good Italian cooking are jobs #1 and #2. I was happy to hire a housekeeper to clean if she's too tired from fucking and making red sauce, but she ultimately didn't want the housekeeper around because she was certain I'd fuck the housekeeper. She'd tell her friends what was happening and realized her friends were envious. Women like being envied, and dread game is real: the more aware she was that her friends were thinking about what she'd told them, the happier she was to do whatever it took to keep me content.

This was exhausting, but it worked. It's been a long time and the initial craziness has slowed down, however she knows that if I'm hard, it's probably happening. The arguments about sex are "where", not "if".

The flipside of this is doing your job to make yourself fuckable. Don't get fat, lift weights, be hygienic, show her that life with you is fun and that you're a desirable man who has everything under control and that when she does what you need her to do, good things happen to her. She talks to her friends about you whether you realize it or not and she needs to get validation from them when she describes her life.

I don't know anything about the situation in the middle of a marriage, but the others are right: you won't just learn a couple of tips, you need to work on the big picture here, because spending three hours trying to soften her up... there are women in bars who don't need that much attention from total strangers. Something is wrong with the big picture. There is also always the possibility that her sex drive has deteriorated for hormone reasons, but you would likely notice other changes in her, too.

[Cobra]

(04-18-2017 10:46 AM)RogerB Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 09:52 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

OP, what is your goal and given the resources those kind forum members provided you, what is your next step or steps?

One goal is to get advice how to shorten the game to get a bang to say after 10 - 15 minutes.
Other goal maybe is to get advice how to live with it.

Roger

I was hoping this wouldn't happen.

[Pollito]

OP actually has a series of game videos published on YouTube. Here's one I found helpful:

[Latan]

OP, you see "game" as a tactic you use at a very specific time, in order to get sex.
Some kind of mind trick to quickly make a woman desire you.
Game is a constant attitude which makes your female be naturally attracted to you.

You can't be a Beta for 23H45 each day, then play the sexy bad boy for 15 minutes in order to get a bang.
Your wife must only see your Alpha side, she must never see you as a beta.

The solution to get 3 bangs a day?
Changing yourself to become a man which she (or rather the girls you'll meet after) will be attracted to.
Lift, practice a martial art, develop self confidence, change your body language, your voice tone.
Become strong and strong willed, become the best version of yourself, the Alpha you.

There's no easy way, to get what you want.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Gaming with wife to get a threesome is the real deal. Though in most instances you have to get the girl yourself.

[BigL]

Work on your dread game a lil bit. But first you need to be attractive to do that. Take what you can, jerk off and work on yourself.

[RogerB]

Hello, thanks for all of your comments.
Well, I will look to me, work on me and try to game 24/7.
Anyway, maybe my attitude already changed a bit due to our discussion.
Yesterday evening my wife came back from a dinner she had with her (female) friends. She did wear nice make-up, high heels, black stockings and a short shirt. And she had a nice golden neck jewelry.
When I approached her, she answered, she had to clean the kitchen.
I took her hand, guided her into the bedroom, took stockings, slip and finally short shirt off from her. Left only the golden jewelry. And then:
BANG.
(During the bang she tried to negotiate with me some dates for meetings with friends, but I refused to talk to her).
Besides her try to talk about meetings, this was the best bang I had for the last months. And she came also afterwards herself (which used also not to be common).

To be continued.

Roger

[Easy_C]

(04-17-2017 08:19 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

I think you need to get your personal life together. She wears the pants in your relationship and decides when you get bangs. Your "3 bangs" expectation appears manufactured and compensatory to the lack of respect she gives you. It's the wrong approach.

Instead, take baby steps. Maybe start leading her and do what you want in front of her instead of the opposite which you're likely doing now.

When I did it, I was a dick to her. Not the best approach because I could have been smoother. That said, I adjusted as time went on into more even keeled and years later, the relationship is going towards a more positive end.

I hate to be blunt but, dude, get your shit together. The other members already gave you resources. I would love to see you use them and post your progress in this thread.

Cobra's steering you on the right track. You need to start getting some of the cards in your hand so that she deep down feels like she's looking up to you rather than down on you.

For sex I'd highly recommend buying Player Supreme's product on that. If you don't already know how to get a woman off hard and repeatedly he explains how in a way that works for most women. He also gives you a brief introduction to "mindfucking" which is an essential skill for long run game.

[RatInTheWoods]

(04-20-2017 11:33 AM)RogerB Wrote:  

Hello, thanks for all of your comments.
Well, I will look to me, work on me and try to game 24/7.
Anyway, maybe my attitude already changed a bit due to our discussion.
Yesterday evening my wife came back from a dinner she had with her (female) friends. She did wear nice make-up, high heels, black stockings and a short shirt. And she had a nice golden neck jewelry.
When I approached her, she answered, she had to clean the kitchen.
I took her hand, guided her into the bedroom, took stockings, slip and finally short shirt off from her. Left only the golden jewelry. And then:
BANG.
(During the bang she tried to negotiate with me some dates for meetings with friends, but I refused to talk to her).
Besides her try to talk about meetings, this was the best bang I had for the last months. And she came also afterwards herself (which used also not to be common).

To be continued.

Roger

This makes glorious troll in format of Borat.

[RogerB]

(04-20-2017 08:00 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

This makes glorious troll in format of Borat.

Hello,
with all respect, but I consider it not fair to name the posts of a newbie in this forum as troll.

Roger