[april6e]

I'l probably be moving soon and have begun the process of scouting my city (Seattle) for places to move to.

My primary concern is being close to the "action". Being around as many single women, modern amenities, safe area, etc.

Do you guys have advice on the best place to position oneself when moving to the city so I have easy access to all the social vibe of the city without being too far to pull someone back if I need to?

1. How important is it that I live alone? Will women's hesitancy drastically increase if I try to bring them back to an apartment I'm sharing with roommates? I do not want to make things any harder than they already are for me.

2. How far can I live from the clubs/bars/social areas before it starts to affect how women respond when I try to bring them back? Obviously, the further away I am from the city, the cheaper it will be (and I cannot afford to live directly in Seattle, one of the most expensive housing markets in the nation). But I do not want to be too far away either and will shell out the money if it means I'll have an easier time in my dating life.

3. How much would one need to afford a safe, decent 1 bedroom in a large metro area? What about a 2-3 bedroom? I obviously would prefer to be alone but I would gladly live with others and save hundreds if it didn't affect how women respond when I try to pull them.

4. Any other tips for a newbie who has never moved out before? Anything I'm forgetting about in terms of the place I choose to move to that will affect how well I do dating wise?

[Hypno]

As an older guy, I look back at times when my funds were limited and I did so much better than I do now. So don't harbor self-limiting beliefs like a roommate will disqualify you. Have separate bedrooms of course.

I'll be interested in what others have to say, but with Uber these days you might be able to save tons by living further away.

On point 3, craigslist, zillow, and google can answer your question.

[Jetset]

I don't know anything about Seattle, but I do remember a few things about banging sluts in a crappy apartment.

All things being equal, I would prefer a higher-quality, smaller 1BR over a lower-quality 2-3BR that most young roommates share. If you must, you can fix up a crappy apartment in a good location very well with a quality coat of paint, custom-sized blinds, etc., as long as the building itself gives off a safe, clean, and comfortable vibe and the neighborhood feels safe. I won't speak to the roommate question as I always lived on my own, but I do think it makes you look more established.

Basically, I always aimed to make it a minor destination: somewhere a woman would freely choose to crash for a mini-vacation. Maybe Seattle is different, but here that would mean being able to make good coffee or espresso so we don't have to go out in the morning before/after we bang again and publicly advertise that she spent the night, being able to keep it cozy in the winter and having a good view of the snowfalls and rainstorms, etc. Don't underestimate the value of a clean bathroom with good water pressure and plenty of hot water with a quality showerhead, some women are so obsessed with bathrooms that they'll remember your whole apartment as a dirty old frat house if the bathroom is not up to standard but if you have a good bathroom and kitchen, they'll overlook that the mattress is on the floor. Having a few cheap and easy takeout spots walkable is good, too: chinese, breakfast, etc., easier to turn drinks into something light at your place without wasting time and money on a sit-down dinner.

I was successful enough with this that women would visit friends in town and end up staying with me for most of their visit because in addition to wanting to get fucked, they could rationalize that my apartment was way better than their guest room, and there's no spare bedroom so at the very least she's already accepted that sucking cock is the cover charge. I was two blocks away from the college bars and could see them from the fire escape, but while that's a plus, I think it's more important to simply be *convenient* to things and to have a couple of decent, quiet spots more or less within line-of-sight to your apartment or the corner near it. Instead of going out of your way to get to your apartment, you're going out of your way to hit this cool bar, then you step outside and the natural thing to do is check out your apartment, because it's actually just right over there *points*. Only one woman ever called me out on intentionally pipelining sluts through that cocktail lounge and up the stairs to my apartment, and I didn't even bother to change the subject: I'd already made her wet with the routine and the look on her face just said she was looking forward to getting fucked by someone who takes fucking seriously.

Some of this is probably very basic material to people who read the pickup literature, but I'm offering what I have. My first apartment was a disaster because I didn't understand any of this at that age and I got a bigger place in an out-of-the-way location, but my second, smaller, apartment close to nightlife was another thing entirely. You get a good rhythm going to paint a picture of a lifestyle, grad students and single moms alike end up seeing a small but very comfortable and upscale-looking apartment, compare it mentally to their basement apartments, and acted like they were getting dicked down by the rich guy from Fifty Shades, despite me being as broke as they were.

[Vicious]

For sheer bang logistics, you can't beat the centrally located apartment. It will pay you back in all the time and money sunk into dates that goes nowhere because your lodging is otherwise put in the boondocks.

Plenty of girls will get in bed with you just so they don't have to get on their night train out to the countryside if you're within short cab distance from the hot night spots.

[godzilla]

Answer to #1: Not the end of the world. In my experience, it is easier without roommates. However, I think a logistically good place with one roommate is better then a shitty one bedroom in a not so hip neighborhood. Not sure how old you are, if you getting towards your late 20s, expect women to start questioning why you still have a roommates.

[Easy_C]

I'd recommend that your first concern should be the cheapest place that's safe, decent looking, and reasonably close to work. Being close to the "action" is helpful but if you're reasonably close it's often easier to use uber/lyft these days. I'd say try to be within 5 minutes driving of a good night spot and definitely stay near that downtown area if nightlife is your first priority.


Keep in mind that the MOST important factor will be that your apartment looks and smells clean. Your roommate decision should take this into account. If you Are a nasty fuck I'd strongly encourage you to consider hiring a cleaning service.

[Kid Twist]

(04-16-2017 02:25 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

For sheer bang logistics, you can't beat the centrally located apartment. It will pay you back in all the time and money sunk into dates that goes nowhere because your lodging is otherwise put in the boondocks.

Plenty of girls will get in bed with you just so they don't have to get on their night train out to the countryside if you're within short cab distance from the hot night spots.

I believe that was Roosh's answer to the "What's your 3 word game strategy"?

Centrally located apartment.

[april6e]

Do you guys have advice on finding this affordable elusive "centrally located apartment"? Seattle rent prices aren't a cake walk. What I mean is, are there "tricks" I can use to secure myself a good deal on an apartment outside of just waiting for a non-existent golden egg on craigslist or padmadder?

[Jetset]

So it probably got lost in that small wall of text - I didn't realize how long that was until I saw it on my phone - but a key takeaway in there and in Easy_C's post above is that you can probably find something "convenient to central" for considerably less. Not walkable to a major strip, but just a couple minutes away by Uber and walkable to two or three cool spots.

Seattle's big, we don't know your budget or job situation, but I'd say look for neighborhoods that work for your day-to-day needs *and* are convenient to a fun neighborhood that attracts visitors. That might not be the typical "downtown" scene. If it's anything like Vancouver, the smaller nightlife districts will have their own vibe and their own crowd and you can find what works for you.

Remember that if you're aiming to be convenient to college students, that'll impact your decisions.

https://www.thrillist.com/seattle

[Hypno]

Everything is compromises. Its probably better to be close and have a roommate than to be further out without a roommate.