[Steelex]

Vaun,

My point is that a vast many people have flaws. Whether it's with a substance, mental illness, fishy behavior, bitchiness, ect. If it ain't one it's another.

While I agree she's not the best candidate for an LTR, it seems like she isn't the worst either. If you date with the purpose of getting in an LTR, you're going to meet a bunch of bitches who have pasts. That's inevitable. You just decide what is acceptable to YOU, and hold your ground. I personally wouldn't date her knowing what I know now about what bothers me.

If you can only be with a gorgeous virgin who never so much as smoked a joint, then that's your line in the sand. Just don't expect to find many women who meet that criteria.

[Vaun]

(04-11-2017 09:57 PM)Steelex Wrote:  

If you can only be with a gorgeous virgin who never so much as smoked a joint, then that's your line in the sand. Just don't expect to find many women who meet that criteria.

There is a big difference between someone who has smoked some weed, and a professed heroin user and current opiates user.

This wishy washy "everything is relative" Oprah love fest for clearly damaged women is getting old.

[Aenema]

Thanks for all the responses. I'm thinking that I will breakup with her, and then meet up with her randomly to talk. As in, no warning, I may just come by her house to talk to her. If her pupils are pinpoint I will 100% know that she is doing opiates. If she seems to be stable then I can probably let this go, but I also feel like a dick just breaking up with her to test her will power when it comes to drugs.
I am going to respond to some specific posts after this but I want to reiterate because some of the posts are calling her a heroin addict. She was never addicted to heroin. That's disgusting and I definitely wouldn't be dating her. She was a habitual pot smoker before she met me that smoked the stronger shit once or twice. The worst thing she has done repetitively is painkillers but I've spent a lot of time with her and the only time I saw her take any of that is when she's in bed crying over menstrual cramps. I don't know if other woman struggle with it this bad but it's usually one day a month or every other month, and doctor wants her to take birth control to make it more tolerable but she refuses because she thinks they damage a woman's reproductive organs and she wants to have kids one day. I've asked her if she thinks her opiate use is destroying her body and she is adamant that they are even less damaging to the body than marijuana. I don't know, she is a smart girl and I want to believe her but I don't want to date a junkie.

[Aenema]

(04-11-2017 07:02 PM)Exult Wrote:  

"I guarantee this particular girl would never be a stripper. She hates showing her body. She wears full piece bathing suits to the beach despite having a hot tight little body."

No one else has commented on this part either- sounds like serious self esteem issues (which all girls have but this is beyond the ordinary). Pretty girl with a great body won't wear a bikini? Red flag?

What does the forum think about a breakup with no contact to see where she's at in a couple months? If she spirals off and starts using then you know you made a good choice vs if she handles it well and is going about her life then OP can re-initiate?

I should have been more clear. She won't wear a bikini to the beach unless I'm with her because she hates the looks and comments she gets from men and doesn't want them to talk to her. Why is this a red flag to you? This is one of the things I like the most about her. She also doesn't post pictures of herself online despite being very cute. It can be self esteem issues for sure but I know she knows she's attractive, she just doesn't want people to tell her (besides me).

[Aenema]

(04-11-2017 01:55 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

This girl seems to have recovered but using morphine as a vice for cramps is definitely an eyebrow raiser.

Pot isn't a big deal, but morphine is.

Sounds like that former ex of hers did a number on her unfortunately, she chased drugs to get away from her own issues.

I won't say she's broken, but I will say for long term prospects I don't see her as an LTR type girl.

Then again you've been with her 7 months.

Have you guys been in any fights ? How has she reacted ? Did she uptick smoking weed and morphine ?

Has been in any high stress situations ? How has she reacted ?

My concern for you is that, if shit hits the fan, will go back to her old ways ?

Same can be said for people who had a history of alcohol abuse.


Now, I personally know a few people who stopped drinking, and some of the most successful driven people I know.

Experiences may vary.

We havent fought very frequently in the time we've been together but I personally have never seen her indulge in any substances after a fight however we're usually spending some time apart after we fight so she could be drinking/smoking pot/doing harder drugs and never telling me about it. Now Im starting to doubt her even more bc of what everyone on the thread is saying.

[Aenema]

(04-11-2017 02:01 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:06 PM)Aenema Wrote:  

I'm 100% sure she's not using currently. She's a pretty normal well rounded person. Do you guys truly believe that a one time experience with a very hard substance is enough for me to never marry her? Yes most american girls haven't done something this extreme but dumping a girl over this feels a bit crazy considering the past of most girls. I have no desire to move to a foreign country solely to meet a more traditional girl. I like that she was honest enough to tell me about this. I'm really on the fence. If she had IV'd the substance it would be a deal breaker for sure but I just don't know if I can rationalize dumping a girl over smoking some shit a long time ago. She's a dream compared to the girls that I see guys in this forum complaining about. Doesn't really use social media, isn't an attention whore, great cook. Am I just blinded by the things that I like about her? My best friend thinks I'm crazy for considering dumping her over something in the past and says I should be happy that she wasn't in a gang bang or something, but he's not very red pill. Just a guy with some natural game.
Yes I asked this because I am considering marrying her. Foreign girls are traditional and cute but they're dumb as rocks for the most part, and I can't imagine spending the rest of my life with a woman who I wouldn't be able to have an intellectual conversation with. I feel like this girl has become one of my closest friends and that I will not be able to find someone like this again. I don't want to grow old alone chasing the player lifestyle and I believe that experimenting with drugs isn't as bad as being a liberal college tinder whore. But I really truly am conflicted because I don't want her to be like 40 and start using drugs again.

It's never a "one time thing". How many times has she played with opiates before deciding to go "all in" with heroin? If she wasn't a habitual opiate user, even a small amount would have ODed her.

She's "trickle truthing" you anyway. Pot doesn't generally dampen a woman's sex drive...you know what does? Opiates. She was addicted to cock till she got addicted to opiates. Weaning herself off opiates and back onto cock now, but she'll always be backsliding. And unless she's got a 6 figure income, I guarantee she was blowing dudes for drugs on the regular.

I'm sure she's a sweet fun girl, but he has some issues that disqualify her as a mother of your children. Enjoy her for what she is, but don't even THINK of wifing her up.

I'm sure she was never addicted to sex. The drug use started fairly young from what I gather. She lost her virginity at 18 and was with the guy for a long time. I want to believe that she can overcome these issues and be my wife one day because there are so many good qualities about her that I know I will never find in another girl. She comes from a wealthy family so I'm sure she wasn't blowing guys for drugs, however I do think that her parents were enablers when it came to her drug habits. I believe her dad used to give her $1000 a month while she was in college because he wanted her to focus on school and not work.

[Aenema]

(04-11-2017 01:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:51 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I missed the "morphine for menstrual cramps" (good catch Vill@in)

Concern alert raised to Level Orange

...and "claimed to have been/allowed herself to be abused by old guy". I did catch it at first but then forgot about it as I got sucked into the drug narrative.

She lost her virginity to this guy. I have seen messages from him begging her to get back with him and he said things such as "i wouldnt have taken your virginity if i didnt plan to be with you the rest of your life" etc but I know she is 100% done with him. She gets stressed out when he contacts her and I've had to intervene but the man is crazy. I truly believe she was just caught up in love with her first but she did leave him after it started to be a pattern

[Rawmeo]

Once a druggie, always a junkie. Drug abuse is a huge problem - and she's likely to have downs / mood jumps / cravings. Be very careful - but if I were you, I'd walk away. While there's nothing wrong with smoking weed, taking hard drugs is a huge red flag.

[samsamsam]

(04-12-2017 12:23 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

I'm sure she was never addicted to sex. The drug use started fairly young from what I gather. She lost her virginity at 18 and was with the guy for a long time. I want to believe that she can overcome these issues and be my wife one day because there are so many good qualities about her that I know I will never find in another girl. She comes from a wealthy family so I'm sure she wasn't blowing guys for drugs, however I do think that her parents were enablers when it came to her drug habits. I believe her dad used to give her $1000 a month while she was in college because he wanted her to focus on school and not work.

(04-12-2017 12:25 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

She lost her virginity to this guy. I have seen messages from him begging her to get back with him and he said things such as "i wouldnt have taken your virginity if i didnt plan to be with you the rest of your life" etc but I know she is 100% done with him. She gets stressed out when he contacts her and I've had to intervene but the man is crazy.---SHE STILL TAKES THE CALL FROM HIM - ever heard of cell phone block? Ever see Goodfellas? I truly believe she was just caught up in love with her first but she did leave him after it started to be a pattern

With all due respect, I think you are just wasting people's time now with this thread. You just don't want to believe the feedback people are giving you and you just want to convince yourself the doubts you have are not justified. The parts highlighted in black, shows how weak you are being. Seriously, I am trying to help, being gentle with feedback to you will only encourage you to keep dragging this out.

[tomzestatlu]

When it comes to telling the unpleasant truth, people always say the minimum or that part, that hurts the least. So if there was heroin, I bet it wasn´t only once.

I even wouldn´t date any girl, who smoked marijuana more than "once tried it".

This may sound weird, but if you really consider her LTR, test her. You can break up with her, give her few weeks and you will see, how she will approach to drugs. If she will stay clear, than you can say it´s history.

Or talk to psychologist who works with drug-addicts. They know a lot about their behaviour.

[Phoenix]

(04-11-2017 01:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:51 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I missed the "morphine for menstrual cramps" (good catch Vill@in)

Concern alert raised to Level Orange

...and "claimed to have been/allowed herself to be abused by old guy". I did catch it at first but then forgot about it as I got sucked into the drug narrative.

Yep, Sorry OP, we're all just going to tell you what you already knew. Continuing with her is unlikely to end up pleasantly for you. You know what you have to do.

As an aside, drug use including "just weed" is a hard no for me, as well as things like tattoos. Those things are simply not consistent with a woman worth being in a long term relationship with. Even alcohol is suspect if she likes it a bit too much. "Mommy's smoking a joint!". That sound right to you guys?

[Jetset]

(04-12-2017 12:23 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

If she had IV'd the substance it would be a deal breaker for sure but I just don't know if I can rationalize dumping a girl over smoking some shit a long time ago....She lost her virginity at 18 and was with the guy for a long time. I want to believe that she can overcome these issues and be my wife one day because there are so many good qualities about her that I know I will never find in another girl. She comes from a wealthy family so I'm sure she wasn't blowing guys for drugs, however I do think that her parents were enablers when it came to her drug habits. I believe her dad used to give her $1000 a month while she was in college because he wanted her to focus on school and not work.

#1. Opiate addiction is a lifelong struggle because the brain never forgets what opiates do to it. Whether she is a true addict or not, you acknowledge that she is still a current user, even if she seemingly has a good reason. If/when she does escalate to IV use and blowing dudes to get what she needs, she will not disclose this to you. She will lie to you, because that's what opiate addicts do, not to protect loved ones but to protect their high. The first lie is almost always "I'm in pain and genuinely need this". This is an ongoing situation that, if you stay with her, will continue for the rest of your life. Based on your behavior in this thread, if this situation deteriorates you will likely believe her for a long time and deny that you are being lied to even when it becomes obvious and you're starting threads here asking us to tell you what you want to hear.

#2. She is accustomed to a wealthy lifestyle and probably had other things to spend that $1,000/month on. Why would you believe that she would not do something shady to finance doing something shady on top of her usual lifestyle? Why would you believe that things won't go to hell if you fail to deliver this lifestyle yourself?

#3. There are likely no good qualities about this woman that you will never find in another woman. I mean it. People are all remixes of the same genes and she is unlikely to have any useful traits that do not exist in millions of other women. Can she fly? No, she can cook. Lots of them do that.

(04-12-2017 12:25 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

She lost her virginity to this guy. I have seen messages from him begging her to get back with him and he said things such as "i wouldnt have taken your virginity if i didnt plan to be with you the rest of your life" etc but I know she is 100% done with him. She gets stressed out when he contacts her and I've had to intervene but the man is crazy. I truly believe she was just caught up in love with her first but she did leave him after it started to be a pattern

OK, seriously now. You want us to enable you but that would not be helping you.

If she isn't addicted to opiates, she is addicted to drama. This is toxic behavior on her part, allowing an alleged abuser and apparent menacing stalker to continue contact, freak her out, and thereby involve you. You say that she isn't an attention whore, but this behavior is all about her and her need for attention (both from you and from her ex) and it's cruel and indifferent toward your own well-being. She isn't done with him. He reaches out, she lets him, and she stresses because she is not emotionally done with him. When women are truly done with men, they are perfectly capable of coldly and callously cutting them off completely without caring about their feelings. The fact that she reacts to his contact indicates that he matters to her. Remember what Elie Wiesel says: "the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference".

People are telling you that she's trickling the truth to you, but you're also trickling the truth to us and it's becoming obvious that it would look much worse if there was full disclosure. Pull yourself together. Attachment is heavily driven by the hormone dumps after you fuck her. Go pop a few angry loads in something else this weekend and see if you still want to bother with any of this drama.

[kaotic]

(04-12-2017 12:25 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

She lost her virginity to this guy. I have seen messages from him begging her to get back with him and he said things such as "i wouldnt have taken your virginity if i didnt plan to be with you the rest of your life" etc but I know she is 100% done with him. She gets stressed out when he contacts her and I've had to intervene but the man is crazy. I truly believe she was just caught up in love with her first but she did leave him after it started to be a pattern

This is important, why the hell is she still in contact with this guy.

How has she not blocked him on all forms of social media and her phone ?

The answer is, SHE LET'S HIM, she probably enjoys him reaching out to her at some level.

She claims she's over it, yet gets stressed out about the whole situation.

She honestly probably has some issues that haven't been resolved with him.

Keep in mind, the biggest thing that sticks out, is that she lost her virginity to this guy, that has a deep impact on women, especially with prolonged contact.

[Gótico]

When did opiate-consuming, old man-loving, weed-smoking, attention-seeking, pain-overstating girls become marriage material? You speak of her as a precious gem with uncommon properties; in your view, she has natural flaws that need not be emphasised because some attentive polishing will resolve them. But this is untrue. In reality, she is like chipped china: perhaps of former glory (chiefly due to the beauty you ascribe to her), but ultimately useless and rude to present to guests. Your mentality is one of scarcity, which unfortunately compels men to settle with subpar women.

[Aenema]

The standards that some of you present for women are insane and I truly think impossible to find. I have met thousands of women and I don't think any of them fit the standards of majority of Rvf forum members.

For those alarmed about her ex contacting her: she does have him blocked on everything, I am 100% sure she is not attracted to this guy. He has shown up with multiple phone numbers contacting her that all end up being him. She is very transparent with the communication. She will show me deranged messages and she begs me to threaten him. She has gotten the police involved before but restraining orders only last a year and they will not renew another one because he has not since tried to find her in person.

Today I wanted to test my girl so I told her that I injured my back at work and wanted to take one of the pills that she takes for her period cramps. Of course, I wasn't going to take it, I just wanted to see her reaction. She caught me off guard a bit, as I was just expecting her to hand over a pill but instead she asked me what happened and I hadn't prepared a story. The story I ended up telling was a bit weak and she said that she didn't think I should take one. I asked her why and she said that it is not worth involving yourself with this unless you are in severe pain and it doesn't sound very severe. she said they are very addictive for the "average person" and that she would not take them at all if she could bare to face her period cramps without being in tears. She said that taking the pill would mean that my back would just resume aching tomorrow and that I would be slowing my recovery, and that it is different with her cramps because it is solely a one day occurrence. However, later in the night I decided to ask her again and claimed the pain was very very bad and she told me she would give me one but that I can under no circumstance ask her for one tomorrow or I will create a habit. The pill she gave me is white and says 54 262 on one side.

[Aenema]

(04-12-2017 03:36 PM)Gótico Wrote:  

When did opiate-consuming, old man-loving, weed-smoking, attention-seeking, pain-overstating girls become marriage material? You speak of her as a precious gem with uncommon properties; in your view, she has natural flaws that need not be emphasised because some attentive polishing will resolve them. But this is untrue. In reality, she is like chipped china: perhaps of former glory (chiefly due to the beauty you ascribe to her), but ultimately useless and rude to present to guests. Your mentality is one of scarcity, which unfortunately compels men to settle with subpar women.

This is a crude summary of everything I listed. The man was 26 or 27 when she was 18, I wouldn't say that makes her "old-man loving". Not sure where I said she was attention seeking either. In fact, I love that she is not attention seeking. For a beautiful girl she never updates her social media, doesn't have snapchat, instagram, etc, and wears full piece swimsuits most of the time because she thinks bikinis are like wearing a bra and underwear in public. How can you say that these traits are anything but uncommon among normal American girls? I mentioned that I believe she's more intelligent than most girls, and I can't fault her for using a medication to treat herself when she is in severe pain. it is stupid to just sit around and complain about it and not do anything correct? After my interaction with her today I truly believe that she is not currently addicted to anything. But I appreciate the concern for my future. How nice it would be to meet an 18 y/o virgin who never even smoked weed and only drinks alcohol with me. Unfortunately I am not sure that i would have much in common with a girl like that and do not know that I would be happy in the future. i truly believe this woman is nearly my intellectual equal and i can see myself growing old and waking up to this woman because I enjoy her company far beyond her sexuality. i think i'd be better off spending my time building a rehab fund in case she ever needs it than going out into the world of monstrous women that exist on apps like Tinder and Bumble. But i do not think she will need it because people can change, and this isn't nearly as bad as slutty behavior. i actually can't believe i even started a thread about it but I was just so shocked in the moment as not even my most hardcore wild friends have chased dragon as far as I know. I guess part of my post was curiosity on how common this was and if the guys have come across other girls that have done this because I wasn't quite sure how to react to it. ive more commonly heard girls doing molly or coke or something like that.

[Aenema]

(04-12-2017 12:39 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 12:25 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

She lost her virginity to this guy. I have seen messages from him begging her to get back with him and he said things such as "i wouldnt have taken your virginity if i didnt plan to be with you the rest of your life" etc but I know she is 100% done with him. She gets stressed out when he contacts her and I've had to intervene but the man is crazy. I truly believe she was just caught up in love with her first but she did leave him after it started to be a pattern

This is important, why the hell is she still in contact with this guy.

How has she not blocked him on all forms of social media and her phone ?

The answer is, SHE LET'S HIM, she probably enjoys him reaching out to her at some level.

She claims she's over it, yet gets stressed out about the whole situation.

She honestly probably has some issues that haven't been resolved with him.

Keep in mind, the biggest thing that sticks out, is that she lost her virginity to this guy, that has a deep impact on women, especially with prolonged contact.

This is so far from the truth that it almost invalidates other good advice in the thread. Not every girl has ever-lasting feelings for her first. I know for a fact that she loved the boyfriend she had in between far more than she loved her first just by how she talks about him. This boyfriend threatened to kill her mother who she is very close to. She told me that she wants him to die so she can attend his funeral and spit on his grave. he sends her multiple messages, which start our loving and when she doesnt respond they are scathing and he picks at her biggest insecurities. She has sent messages saying "this is *****'s father. i will fucking murder u if u contact my daughter again" and the same thing but with boyfriend instead of father. She begged me to talk to him on the phone and threaten him but once he heard it was my voice on the phone he hung up and resorted to text messages only.

[Jetset]

(04-13-2017 12:31 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

The standards that some of you present for women are insane and I truly think impossible to find. I have met thousands of women and I don't think any of them fit the standards of majority of Rvf forum members.

I think it would be fair to say that the majority of people, both men and women, are a liability in a relationship and that you're better off single than stuck with one of them. You have described someone who is a present user of opiates, a past recreational user of opiates and other hard drugs, and who is still being actively stalked by her menacing ex-boyfriend after however many years. These are not insane standards. These are the basics. You would not have bothered to post this thread if you didn't know, on some level, that this situation is not right. You want us to tell you that it is fine. We're telling you it is not fine because it is not fine.

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He has shown up with multiple phone numbers contacting her that all end up being him. She is very transparent with the communication. She will show me deranged messages and she begs me to threaten him. She has gotten the police involved before but restraining orders only last a year and they will not renew another one because he has not since tried to find her in person.

You won't like this, but this is not your problem. Assuming that she is not lying, the bottom line is that she still has an ongoing dangerous situation stemming from her bad decisions and sees putting you in the middle of it as an acceptable answer. This is not good judgment or considerate behavior on her part.

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Today I wanted to test my girl so...I asked her why and she said that it is not worth involving yourself with this unless you are in severe pain and it doesn't sound very severe. she said they are very addictive for the "average person" and that she would not take them at all if she could bare to face her period cramps without being in tears...I can under no circumstance ask her for one tomorrow or I will create a habit.

This set of facts invites one to speculate that she is struggling with her own addictive tendencies and projecting them onto you, doesn't it?

(04-13-2017 12:43 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

i think i'd be better off spending my time building a rehab fund in case she ever needs it than going out into the world of monstrous women that exist on apps like Tinder and Bumble...I was just so shocked in the moment as not even my most hardcore wild friends have chased dragon as far as I know.

We shouldn't even have to explain all of this to you, because you obviously already see it for what it is. You simply don't want it to be true because you're afraid of the unknown.

(04-13-2017 12:52 AM)Aenema Wrote:  

This is so far from the truth that it almost invalidates other good advice in the thread....I know for a fact that she loved the boyfriend she had in between far more than she loved her first just by how she talks about him.

Yeah, I remember my first LTR with an 18-year-old virgin. When she was dating her current husband she'd still call me and end up masturbating. She has been married to the guy for five years and still randomly Facebooks me about how she found something cute from when we were dating in a box and how nice it is that things aren't awkward between us and that we can still talk. I guarantee you that I can fuck her raw and she won't even feel guilty about it because it's hard-coded. My cum is as strongly associated with her youth as her mom's cooking. Women tend to eventually start obsessing about their youth. You think she says nice things about me to her husband, or do you think she talks shit about me because she's trying to drown her inner whore in lies?

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She told me that she wants him to die so she can attend his funeral and spit on his grave.

Don't sugarcoat what's going on here. She is not over him. She cares about his actions and about what happens to him immensely. He may genuinely frighten and enrage her, but her reaction is passionate and obsessive. All this says to me is that they would likely have very rough sex for a very long time if he ever convinces her that he's "changed". She made a major investment in him, gave him her innocence, and it blew up in her face and she still hasn't found closure. To put it another way, she hates him because she blames him for the failure of the relationship, not because she didn't want the relationship. What's important here is that if he's truly an abuser, he's a professional at manipulation, and he has jammed his mind-cock so deeply into her mind-pussy that she still hasn't figured out how to remove it. He's wearing her like a thumb puppet and you don't even seem to notice.

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She has sent messages saying "this is *****'s father. i will fucking murder u if u contact my daughter again" and the same thing but with boyfriend instead of father. She begged me to talk to him on the phone and threaten him but once he heard it was my voice on the phone he hung up and resorted to text messages only.

Wait, wait, wait. She sent him messages pretending to be you telling him you'll kill him?



Jesus Christ, friendo. No tits are so perfect that they're worth getting dragged into a confrontation with a crazy man wielding a baseball bat who believes that the guy railing "his" woman wants to fight him because that's what she told him.

It's your life, do what you want. You're obviously deeply committed to rationalizing your belief that this is the one woman in the world waiting for you under a star. However, you have every right to go find a woman who is not trapped in the first act of an episode of "Law & Order" without feeling guilty about it. Every time you try to defend this, we see a little more of the iceberg, and I predict this deal is just going to get worse and worse for you.

[kaotic]

I give up, this dude's hamster is far too big.

He's talking about funding an emergency rehab fund, seeing himself grow old with her, he's only know the chick 7 months, give it two years and come back and tell me the same thing.

He's putting her on a pedestal - she might be cool to hang and bang, but not the mother of your kids let alone marriage.

She's still got some unresolved issues and a checkered past.

This dude won't listen, he just wants to hamster away the truth.

[Jetset]

The appropriate Simpsons reference, hopefully I'm not the only one who appreciates it:

[PapayaTapper]

(04-13-2017 12:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I give up, this dude's hamster is far too big.

He's talking about funding an emergency rehab fund, seeing himself grow old with her, he's only know the chick 7 months, give it two years and come back and tell me the same thing.

He's putting her on a pedestal - she might be cool to hang and bang, but not the mother of your kids let alone marriage.

She's still got some unresolved issues and a checkered past.

This dude won't listen, he just wants to hamster away the truth.

Not sure why OP started this thread.

It's obvious that he's blind to his own rationalizations and just came in for confirmation or reassurances but not guidance

[samsamsam]

OP started this thread on innocence game. Which people thought he was trollish.

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This guy is never going to get it.

Maybe he will when his girl bangs some RVF guy.

Keep your powder dry guys, too many posters lately who post but don't really want advice.

[Phoenix]

(04-13-2017 12:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Not sure why OP started this thread.

It's obvious that he's blind to his own rationalizations and just came in for confirmation or reassurances but not guidance

That's exactly why he started the thread. To continue the argument that he should stay with her, which he's probably having elsewhere, just in another space. He's beyond correctable. Even if he ends up getting severely fucked over as a result of his decision to stay, he'll just come back and continue arguing why it was actually good decision and why he's even more committed to staying now. Let him throw himself to the wind.

[torridon747]

People here trying to save OPs life and he's railing against it. Amongst a group of opinionated internet goers who's soul purpose on this forum is how to deal with women and they are all saying more or less the same thing. The fall from this one is gonna hurt.

I was a little drunk when I typed my post out that she still had a problem, I wasn't too far off.

It appears she's hoarding her pills and using classic junkie rationale to keep you from even scratching it. She's protecting you from yourself right? Wait who needs protection again? You, from yourself. Not her, ostensible ex opiate addict with a crazy stalker boyfriend. You - from yourself. And you bought that.

Remember her words- she will under no circumstances give you another the next day. Sounds mad she had to give you one in the first place.

I don't even think her drug use is the biggest red flag here; far from it. You seem to place a lot of value on it though and take it from someone who has lived that life. She still has a problem.

That pill is a morphine 30mg by the way. Not exactly for the casual period cramp.

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Good luck OP.