[Nater]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if you guys had any recommendation in regards to storytelling, any books / videos or tips you would like to share. The only (great) thread about storytelling I could find in the forum gives an example of a captivating story but does not offer a blueprint on how to do it. It’s a great story that shows the power of storytelling here IT is if you have not read it.

Before I got in the game, I was unaware that telling stories was a skill that existed in this planet. I viewed people with such a skill as interesting and fun people who I enjoyed hanging out with, the others who did not possess this skill I viewed as boring people. Naturally, this ignorance led me to join the second group for a good part of my life which caused me to miss out on some fine ass in my younger years.


When I discovered the game, I quickly realized that usually the form was more important than content. Consequently, I made sure to fix my voice and be as charismatic as possible. I did voice exercises and my delivery really improved in the span of a few months. I also wrote down funny, interesting stories that were related to my life and told them to people. I became reasonably good at making a conversation and captivating people with my stories. Nonetheless, sometimes my stories were bad, not captivating at all and I did not know the reasons behind this. This is what brought me to you guys today; I would like to know what is your experience with storytelling? How do you guys tell a story? And, how did you improve your storytelling skills?

Cheers!

[torridon747]

I don't have a whole lot to add because I am working on this myself.

I have noticed that like game, in storytelling everything you do should provoke an emotional reaction with a subtle difference; it still needs to convey a distilled meaningful element/point to the listener.

I also noticed that knowing your listener pays off very well but having a relatable baseline plot for any audience is a good place to start.

With good storytelling skills some simple mildly amusing event can make a great story, and in contrast an epic adventure can be conveyed in a boring flat way losing your audience along the way.

I think storytelling has a lot in common with many artforms and game, I'm interested to see what other members say.

[blck]

You guys have it backward
Game is using your words first and the way you delivers them to make an emotional impact but it has to be aligned with who you are, high or energy, direct or indirect bold or subtle and more and more, then How to create and play with people's emotions and there you'll start to apply psychology and picking on subtles things(IOI).

Look how Ross jeffries delivers his speech (first 10mn), he's low energy but his word have a real impact on the target.

Now look at RSD Julien (first 10mn), this guy can ramble on and on and I don't know where he can take his energy from but, man, this is draining... but listen thé story about the guy...

Now look at this fat black dude, this man seems to be a joke with his weird ass voice, but his shit works for real, look how the girl is phased by what he's saying...

In the last vid you got one of the most powerful tool you can have as a human being (when he makes the woman repeat) and it's in the book of Robert CIALDINI when he talk about chineses interrogators asking american soldiers to write essay about what was good in communism, they make them adopt the idea that communism wasn't all wrong.
By making her repeat his saying, the idea of loving having her mouth fucked became her own...

Anyway you guys want to have more than one tool in your toolbox...

[Nater]

(04-01-2017 07:32 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

I don't have a whole lot to add because I am working on this myself.

I have noticed that like game, in storytelling everything you do should provoke an emotional reaction with a subtle difference; it still needs to convey a distilled meaningful element/point to the listener.

I also noticed that knowing your listener pays off very well but having a relatable baseline plot for any audience is a good place to start.

With good storytelling skills some simple mildly amusing event can make a great story, and in contrast an epic adventure can be conveyed in a boring flat way losing your audience along the way.

I agree context and adjusting the story to the audience are very very important; I learned this through trial and error. Sometimes when telling stories, I'd be giving too much details or telling a story that is too long, too short or just not really appropriate to the audience and I wouldn't get any reaction at all.

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I have noticed that like game, in storytelling everything you do should provoke an emotional reaction with a subtle difference; it still needs to convey a distilled meaningful element/point to the listener.

Interesting Eugenics, aren't we trying to convey a message to girls when gaming them?

I think what we refer to as verbal game is mostly storytelling, I think it can be a very powerful skill we can use to talk to girls. Maybe telling her about herself through a story or maybe telling a her story that highlights x or y attribute you have which makes you a high value man.

Overall, I would be curious to know what the fundamentals of a good story are beyond context since that is something that will change in every situation; just the basics of the story, hopefully more people will chime in.

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You guys have it backward
Game is using your words first and the way you delivers them to make an emotional impact but it has to be aligned with who you are, high or energy, direct or indirect bold or subtle and more and more, then How to create and play with people's emotions and there you'll start to apply psychology and picking on subtles things(IOI).

Nowhere in my post did I say you had to be incongruent with who you are? Quite the contrary, I specifically mentioned that I crafted my personal stories from my personal experience. Seems like you were barking up the wrong tree..

Thanks for the videos though, Julian and the fat guy are good storytellers. My OP was specifically about the fundamentals of storytelling what makes a good or bad story. Obviously, there are more tools that you can use to convey a message or an emotion to a chick or human being but I am more interested to learn about this at the moment. For instance, in the RSD video Julian uses a story of his trip in Hawaii to convey several points to his audience rather than telling you do X,Y,Z with chicks. My question is what made his story so compelling beyond context.

Are there any fundamentals to a great or good story? I believe this is not exclusive to picking up chicks but to every human exchange.

[captain_shane]

(04-01-2017 08:58 PM)blck Wrote:  

Now look at this fat black dude, this man seems to be a joke with his weird ass voice, but his shit works for real, look how the girl is phased by what he's saying...

In the last vid you got one of the most powerful tool you can have as a human being (when he makes the woman repeat) and it's in the book of Robert CIALDINI when he talk about chineses interrogators asking american soldiers to write essay about what was good in communism, they make them adopt the idea that communism wasn't all wrong.
By making her repeat his saying, the idea of loving having her mouth fucked became her own...

Anyway you guys want to have more than one tool in your toolbox...

Alan Roger Currie is a straight pimp, but his type of game is much different from the majority of guys on here. He learned his game from a porn movie called Talk Dirty to Me.

Mode One is a great book by him.

[Hypno]

(04-01-2017 08:58 PM)blck Wrote:  

You guys have it backward
Game is using your words first and the way you delivers them to make an emotional impact but it has to be aligned with who you are, high or energy, direct or indirect bold or subtle and more and more, then How to create and play with people's emotions and there you'll start to apply psychology and picking on subtles things(IOI).

Look how Ross jeffries delivers his speech (first 10mn), he's low energy but his word have a real impact on the target.

Now look at RSD Julien (first 10mn), this guy can ramble on and on and I don't know where he can take his energy from but, man, this is draining... but listen thé story about the guy...

Now look at this fat black dude, this man seems to be a joke with his weird ass voice, but his shit works for real, look how the girl is phased by what he's saying...

In the last vid you got one of the most powerful tool you can have as a human being (when he makes the woman repeat) and it's in the book of Robert CIALDINI when he talk about chineses interrogators asking american soldiers to write essay about what was good in communism, they make them adopt the idea that communism wasn't all wrong.
By making her repeat his saying, the idea of loving having her mouth fucked became her own...

Anyway you guys want to have more than one tool in your toolbox...

Good post.

Ross Jefferies - guy is not my style, but it works for him. This stuff you posted is good, but its not really about story telling. It takes a lot more study to do his stuff, and I plan to add some of this to my game. The video you posted is more a routine based on hypnotism principles and some things Cialdini describes - labeling/consistency and target chuting especially. That said, Ross Jefferies is really good at stories, check out his written stuff. He tries to tell stories that have emotional spikes.

The guy from RSD is an example of this on steroids. The stuff works. He's a young high testosterone dude so its congruent, barely, but at times he sounds crazy. Still, its engaging, especially to females, and it spikes their buying temperature. lizard brain stuff.

some stuff about Cialdinis recent book is in this thread: thread-59973...pid1465607

[Turnus]

I liked this video breaking down Kevin Hart's story telling ability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_L4OPU_rg

[Hypno]

Here is a pdf from a guy named the Bishop who tells stories and does routines in the Ross Jefferies style; not sure, but these are so similar to RJ that it might be a psuedonym of his. Skip to p. 128 for the pure stories and notice how he is mostly describing feelings and emotions. There is a lot of NLP and hypnosis training behind these, but you don't need to master all that to improve your stories.

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/zippy/Speed...ournal.pdf