[wonderer1]

I hadn't daygamed in 2 weeks, still a newb doing this for 2 months about once a week. But always wanted to daygame here. Lots and lots of girls from all over. My hometown has a population of 150,000, I can walk round for a couple of hours and see 5 girls to approach, this was making things difficult for me to learn quickly, I need volume and practice!

I quickly learnt that London is HARD. I heard oxford street wast he best so I spent my time here, but its so difficult? It was a Monday and still so busy, I couldn't even get to girls I wanted to, if I stopped people would be crashing into me, my anxiety was high because there were so many people, 20 infront, 20 behind and 10 standing on the sides. Also the sterotype of London seemed true to me - people were so busy, never had so many people not even stop (I was yad stopping too), and some rude.

In my home town people smile and are really happy with the compliment even if they do walk off after, there arent as many people around so its easier too. The only problem is soon I will start seeing the same people which is why I wanted to practice in London. My best results were at the side streets outside of Westminster uni where I got 3 numbers (did about 30 approaches today in total), one declined twice but I got it on the 3rd attempt, all 3 are responding, they are about 6's, usually I dont go under an 8, can get 6 numbers in an hour in my home town but none respond.

All a learning experience for me, London ill be back for you, maybe just not oxford street. Tough day.

Any tips/feedback/experiences welcomed.

[Travesty]

For day game there are often times there are tons of girls and tons of foot traffic in a place for a period of time.

Yeah you can raise your energy to near rave levels, look for IOIs, and throw out a bunch of fishing lines with hand gestures and comments. Once they do stop in a heavy traffic area the conversation is tough.

Best to be walking along side a girl and keep the conversation going as you both walk in the same direction until you are out of the traffic area.

The other way is to sit on the edges of the high traffic area where it starts disbursing. No different that standing at the edge of a dance floor next to a bar, or at the back edge of a concert where people have a bit more space and are walking in and out.

The approach vortex zone of any foot traffic environment is an important thing to find.

[jselysianeagle]

Are there not parks around with girls sitting and reading/studying?

[Sensei Creation]

Don't choose the easy option of parks and side streets. Throw yourself in the deep end and approach on the main Oxford street roads.

It's hard but if you stick with it it will be rewarding.

[giama]

London is a tilted market place,

huge city so you have women all on the scale from 1-10.

But 75% of the 6s act like there 8s.

Its been well noted on here and from years of experience, that a lot of guys in Long term relationships are dating down (8 guys with 5 girls. Blow outs can be hard, and generally girls can be unfriendly, London can be tribal.

Every area can have a different vibe so you will probably have to work out which area works for you.

In my mid 20s i did get my game to a very high level to the point where if you club/day game in the right places its possible to build up a decent roster, simply because it is such a big city and you can filter and find a humble/good attitude 7+

These days i am working on getting back to that level of day game, a lot of high value SMV women have financial sponsors and too much attention due to social media so its not as easy. Never been as important to find undervalued stock. girls with 0-2000 followers on social media. Girls with more it gets to their head.

Its about making the adjustments and finding your niche

Note- i am not a blind cold caller/ day gamer. For me London works better when the girl shows a IOI and then you begin to chat them up. Im not sure if you were going in completely cold or if they were indicicators. London girls might not take as well to the cold calling approach, as they do control the market.

Attractive women are not abundant here, especially in some areas, so generally due to supply and demand they control the transactions. Especially girls 7+, its very exponential though if you crack it you can crack it good.

If you can cut the mustard in London there is some good damn options once you go north of the sea of 5s and 6s

[Pinocchio]

Oxford Street is good for a baptism of fire but you will have better results sticking to the side streets and areas. Try around Covent Garden or Soho next time.

[Mig Picante]

London is a mean city!

Maybe go to Soho Square Gardens where it's practically legal to smoke weed, people ambling about will be sitting there with heaps more time and be far more relaxed.

Brick Lane and Liverpool St around Spitalfields market is more hipster and relaxed too but try perhaps on the weekend.

[MarkNordic]

(03-28-2017 05:43 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

Are there not parks around with girls sitting and reading/studying?

This would be the best option but the weather is too cold/windy for that right now.

[Captain Gh]

What strikes me is that you seem like you really want to get good at this, but doing it 1x per week. I'm agtaid that ain't enough if you really want to progress. Before work, before school... Approach has to become your Chief Aim because Daygame is Harrrrd my friend!

[Truth Teller]

(03-31-2017 09:18 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

What strikes me is that you seem like you really want to get good at this, but doing it 1x per week. I'm agtaid that ain't enough if you really want to progress. Before work, before school... Approach has to become your Chief Aim because Daygame is Harrrrd my friend!

Absolutely. I am not a good daygamer, but here's what it's like for most guys starting out:

1. Get excited to do daygame
2. Go out
3. Walk around for hours trying to beat approach anxiety.
4. Go home feeling like shit
5. Rinse and repeat for a few weeks
6. Give up

[Captain Gh]

^^ Yup that's true! But To the guys who persist and get by Approach Anxiety... The gems of DayGame make it worthwile. Not only possibly getting laid, but getting Hugs from naïve Chicks with Huge Tits, positive comments from chicks telling you that you are magnetic for some unknown reasons and to keep on approaching. Man looking back? I've had some fun times Daygaming... even in the city of Toronto!

[tupolev35]

london is brutal for learning daygame...
persist and rewards are astronomical !

worlds best daygamers cut their teeth in this city...climb that mountain and you will look down at glory

[ksbms]

Come up North, to Edinburgh... then you'll thank Gods you're down in London. Twenty times less of attractive girls, conservatively speaking.

[wonderer1]

Im definitely trying to persist. Ive been out 2 times this week and aiming for 2 more before week end.

Ive had about 40 numbers so far, 1 date, im getting numbers but not getting dates. Im learning a lot, Im learning to let her talk more and build tension, im better at stacking assuming and responding to what they say, im telling them more about myself so im not just a random.

Im finding it all fun, im a sociable person and I like interacting and learning about people, I amuse myself, sometimes I walk off after a set in stitches at the interaction that was just had.

Day game is hard. Daygame can bruise the ego. I am going to persist. Lets see how I get on....

[jselysianeagle]

Gaming (night or day) isn't easy, but I've generally found women to be a lot nicer during the day even when they're not interested, as opposed to night time when the rejections, when they do come, do so much more harshly. At least, that's been my experience so far...

[giama]

40 numbers from going out 2 times this week? or did i read that wrong?

[wonderer1]

(04-03-2017 03:58 PM)giama Wrote:  

40 numbers from going out 2 times this week? or did i read that wrong?

No, in total of me daygaming

[rudebwoy]

London is an awesome city.

Oxford St has been played out, I recall watching videos of Krauser and Tom Totero doing classes there from a few years back.

I agree with a lot of what has been said, find another area to game.

Westfield shopping mall had a ton of girls, but last time I was there they had too many security guards.

The best thing about London is being able to travel to hotspots for cheap.

[Malo]

(03-31-2017 10:45 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

1. Get excited to do daygame
2. Go out
3. Walk around for hours trying to beat approach anxiety.
4. Go home feeling like shit
5. Rinse and repeat for a few weeks
6. Give up

LOL yes indeed. Once you hit stride though there are gems which you will never get access to anywhere else if you don't have magic pills like great looks or high social status. And success (full closes) does happen. It sucks that so much of daygame time is spent on trying to overcome that anxiety though.

[rockoman]

For all you younger guys struggling with Approach Anxiety.

I started daygame - cold approach - on the street at the age of 50, chatting up girls in their early 20s.Not only did I have the usual anxiety but there was also this horrible weasel whispering in my ear constantly "You're too old, you're too old, you fool".

I fought through it. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

If I can do it, you can do it. Good luck and enjoy yourselves.