[General Stalin]

I've had a lot of them and can't tell you the specific moment when it call clicked. My first glimpse at the truth may have been when I finally broke up with my first real long-term girlfriend about 10 years ago. She had cheated on my more than once and a mutual friend of ours was talking to me about some secrets she has been holding while we were dating. She told me they were shopping at the mall together and my ex was confessing candidly about her cheating on me. Our mutual friend asked her "if you keep cheating on him why don't you just leave him?" and she said something along the lines of "he just keeps taking me back it's like I can't do anything wrong, why would I ruin that?" - this really drove it home that women will do as much as you'll let them do and will walk all over you if given the chance.

My most recent experience was when traveling for work a few weeks ago. I hooked up with this girl I used to bang the year prior. She asked if we could get together again that weekend I said sure, and she felt the need to mention that we could not get together the very next night because she had a date. Whatever. The next night I'm out with a few friends and colleagues at this local poolhall. Sure enough she starts texting me about how lame her date is and how she just wants to go. I tell her to ditch the square and some hang with me instead. She does. She gets to the poolhall all dolled up from her date. Bitches briefly about how lame and awkward the guy was and how she got free dinner out of him. She bought me drinks and I ended up having sex with her that night too.

That poor sap bought dinner for a girl who was texting some other guy the whole time and then cut the date short to go buy him booze and fuck him(me). Damn.

[TigerMandingo]

I don't know if it would be my first red pill moment, but I was on a date with this cute latina girl and midway thru she told me how she used to date a married guy. Then there was a moment where she said, "yea, I'm not too proud of that". Except the very next moment she started complaining about the dude's wife as if SHE was the one responsible.

Bitches have no remorse whatsoever.

[Isaac Jordan]

My first major RP moment came about a month after discovering Roissy/the Chateau and taking the red pill itself.

I was back in college, hanging out at a local bar on a Tuesday night, shooting pool with some friends when a group of girls walked in. One of them knew one of my buddies, so our two groups kind of merged, and everyone introduced themselves.

One of the girls, a slim brunette sorority girl with great tits, started the conversation by asking what we were doing.

It was obvious we were just drinking beer and shooting pool, and my initial thought as a life-long beta was to say as much in a polite, straightforward manner. But instead, I stopped myself and decided to give Asshole Game a try for the very first time.

"We just invented this totally awesome game, it's called pool. I bet you'd be pretty good at it, you look like a girl who knows her way around a thick shaft and a set of balls."

Now, I'm a very forgetful guy. I'm terrible with names AND faces. I don't even remember what I had for dinner last night.

But I will NEVER forget the look in her eyes after I said that.

Desire. Pure, raw, sexual desire.

I had never seen it before. I was still a virgin at that point, and it had been years since I had even kissed a girl.

But right after I said that first quip, I watched her whole demeanor change. Her eyes simply lit up, and focused on me with what I now know to be a mixture of curiosity and desire. I had suddenly gone from being part of the background to, perhaps, an attractive man worth her attention.

Unfortunately I squandered the opportunity pretty quickly after that. I had been such a nice, polite beta my whole life that when my pendulum swung over to the asshole side it swung WAY too far.

But even at the time, I didn't consider it a failure. I had taken my first steps towards controlling my love life, and now had a solid confirmation that I was on the right track. In fact, I lost my virginity three months later. And what a wild ride it's been since then.

[puckerman]

My first major red-pill moment was on 17 June 1996. It was about 6pm, and I got a phone call. In July 1995, I had attended a seminar for people who were into Ayn Rand. I had just mailed in my paperwork to go to the seminar in 1996. I was 25 years old.

(To give context, I had gotten on CompuServe in November 1995. At the July 1995 seminar, about half the people were connected to the Net. Most of those who were connected were students. A long-distance phone call was still a big deal.)

The phone call was from the conference director who said he had gotten "complaints" about me associating with people who didn't want me to associate with them. I was talking to women who apparently didn't want to be talked to, etc. It was still the biggest shock of my life.

Of course, if something like this happened with today's technology, I probably would have heard about a couple weeks or days after the seminar. It also would have been much easier to investigate. To this day, I still don't know who said what.

Unfortunately, it would not be until years later that I would discover Ross Jeffries, Neil Strauss, and other guys like that. It finally helped make sense of the whole incident. I learned that women would rather be victims than be honest, even if being a victim actually takes more work.

Feminism would die a quick death if men would simply stop enabling it. I wonder if that will ever happen.

[Rawmeo]

I used to be the SJW type who would support "equal rights" and the right to do everything we want.

When I first arrived in Thailand, it was only for a trip. I met a girl who I liked, and started dating her. However I pedestrialized the pussy and always let her know how she was "the one" and how lucky I was. She got the cue and became dominant. She stopped making food for me, giving massages, and started getting more and more frequent mood jumps. At that time, I was quite poor and she always joked about "I need a rich boyfriend.. just kidding, you know". After a while, I realized that it was true, because often, we would check the menus in front of restaurants and walk along because it was too expensive. Since she was becoming dominant, she expected me to pay for everything and would never offer to share the bill. She started refusing sex and refusing to give me blowjobs. At the end, she was the boss and if I didn't follow what she wanted, she would give the silence treatment until I changed my mind, and after that too to punish me.

Part of me always thought that men need to faithful to their girls, but I was looking for something different, so I started looking on Thai dating sites for other girls. I was looking to get away from something that wasn't for me, so I searched for "easiness of girls around the world", and the TargetMap by Roosh linked here. I started reading, lurking anonymously, then decided to register. This blown my mind and I took the red pill. I decided to try reframing my girl rather than dumping her, since her becoming this way was my fault for having a weak frame.

I was also starting a business with 3 of my home country buddies and I told my girl that if she wanted a rich boyfriend, she should give me at least 2 years in order to let the business take off. I thought she would be patient considering that I've been with her for 2 years, but her answer was:

"Everyone wants to be rich. I don't believe you can do it, because you talked about that countless times. Stop dreaming, I want an older man who succeeded already"

Things went downhill from there. Mainly because I was focusing on the business rather than her, and because I wasn't reframing the relationship like I should have been, so she started "going out with friends" many times. I once got suspicious and asked a school buddy to follow her, and she went on a dinner date with a man that was halfway between dad and grandpa. There was the shock:

My girl started seeing other men because my frame was weak and because I was too lazy to make the business grow like I should be. I was too focusing on party and forgetting to build a foundation for a solid future.

When I was about to have that discussion with her, she said she was coming home to pick her things because she wasn't dumping me but "needed to find herself". When she came to pick her stuff, there was another man waiting in the truck - and it wasn't a Thai. I know it was my Eskimo brother. The other guy had a nice truck, was good looking, and spoke Thai. I had no car, was skinny, and spoke "nid noy" Thai. He was just better than me.

That was the red pill truth forced down my throat. The red pill was hard to take but it happened this way.

I decided to improve myself and go all-in on self improvement. I put those rules in place:
1) Studying Thai in school 3 hours a day
2) Working on the business 10 hours per day
3) Maximum 2 girls per week

Everyday, I went to school, then went to my office and worked on the business. Everyday was mostly talking to suppliers, coordinating employees, and talking to my home country partners about future plans. Money started coming in more and more everyday. When I reached my financial goal, my mind changed on many things. First, I wasn't finding my girl attractive anymore. Second, I realized that my blue-pill pink glasses were hiding the fact that she had been cheating for a while. And third. I realized that I was the only responsible for my success or misely, and that it was my job to develop a solid frame and use it with girls.

I first met my current wife along the way when building the business, and was seeing her only once every 2 weeks. I promised myself to hold my frame all the way. The green flags were:
- Aged mid 20's
- Virgin and was willing to undergo a virginity test (we didn't do the test for real but her willingness was a good sign)
- Complete family with mother and father
- Good looking and well-preserved
- University diploma with musical and art skills

I now get a massage everyday, sandwiches everyday, and not a single complaint. The red pill allows you to build a frame and to hold it in any situation.

Taking the red pill and being with a girl who didn't respect me helped me to realize how the West is a broken society and how feminism is bad - this is a way of thinking that comes with the red pill too.

[lowside]

Oh I've had a couple of those moments. They may not mean much to you guys, but to me at that time, made me see some things clearly.

- That time some years ago when my LTR found out I was emailing some random chick. She was devastated, but didn't break it off. She basically told me:"do what you do, just make sure I don't find out about it". That was a surprise to me.

- Or how about that instagram hoe thread. It got real when one of these girls came up in that thread that I actually knew indirectly. Small world.

- Or that time I was in a club and this dude dances with this girl. His back faces me, which means this girl is looking at me over his shoulder, heavily eyefucking me.

- Or those numerous times in my late teens/early twenties I was friendzoned. The red pill moment came much later when I started looking back and analyzing my actions.

- This girl I was in a relationship with. It was long distance but committed. Eventually I broke up, because I found another girl. Today I would have kept her in rotation. She would go out every other night, which I found 'a bit odd', but it didn't raise any red flags. Later she admitted she was fucking a dude on the side. Wow.

[jbo]

Waitress. 30+ (I'm late 30 myself), married, with a kid.

11pm "you're an asshole"
1am "I will come (to the hotel not far away) for a drink but don't get any ideas. Really, I mean it!"
2am bang
3am "omg I never do that, I am not like that, I hope you don't think I'm a slut"

It's like you guys have a manual for women, you can't make this up. Red pill ever since.

[Jetset]

Similar to above, I was ~20. Knew some ~30 executive-type from some volunteer work I'd done, we'd ended up talking on the phone as friends a lot, I got flirtatious with her but it was an obvious dead end, then we sort of ghosted on each other for a year+. Was on a road trip and passing through her area so I suggested that we catch up. I'd already seen her MySpace and saw some pics of her out partying, so when I contacted her, I let her save face by asking "if" she had MySpace, since I wasn't sure if she wanted me to know that about her. Sure enough, she deleted those pics before she added me.

I mentioned I'm just passing through for one night and wonder if she can recommend a place to stay. She suggests her place but points out she can only offer me the couch because she has a new boyfriend. I'm too stupid to realize that this proves she's already thinking about fucking me, but not stupid enough to abandon hope.

We got out for a pizza, drinks, I go down on her for half an hour like she's the world's last piece of delicious fresh fruit while she tells me I don't have to do it, then she ends up riding me raw until we both pass out. Just as she gets the tip in for the first time, she stops for a second and hesitates, "we shouldn't do this", I mention I have a condom in my bag, she mutters "he's an asshole anyway" and slides it in. In the morning she brings me breakfast and I get a perfunctory "God, what you must think of me, I never do that".

[ExploringReality]

List of experiences I've had to date that prove the truthfulness of the Red Pill, in chronological format from the Autumn of 2015 to yesterday's night:

-1st. Girlfriend of 5 years who was a virgin before me and I thought about as a pure angel cheats on me after just 2 months of LDR. A.K.A AWALT

-2nd. Hippie girl that works for a left-wing NGO loves my real-talk. "You are right on that one but...". A.K.A Frame is everything, and hippie girls love a fashy guy.

-3rd. Virgin girl lets me pop her cherry in just one night and without the need for comfort. A.K.A SMV is the single most important thing to game, and logistics are key.

-4th. Girl who I anally initiated (or so she said) on our 1st bang stops liking it when she wants me to be her boyfriend. Choking is still fine but..."not so hard please I'm not as much as a masochist as you say I am" A.K.A the dualistic sexual strategy of girls

-5th. Girl who seems extremely shy and innocent has had all kinds of sexual experiences, girls included. This one has been a shock to me, I'm still amazed. A.K.A AWALT 2.0

-6th. Girl who was making me wait for real sex probably faking being too tight gives it quickly after a freeze-out. A.K.A Girls will use their sexuality to manipulate you.