[blck]

Only to bring some anti thesis to fuel the argument :

People keep talking about high IQ = being smart but I don't agree with that... or only in a scientific way and that's the very problem here: Talking scientificly.

You got average iQ guys who do lot better due to expérience in life based on trial and errors and even low IQ dude keep knocking up more women that it is humanly understandable.

If smart people were that "smart", those guys, who keep providing scientific experiments on how women behave or how this or that is bad for your health, would fuck tons of bitches but I guess that it is the only thing that they weren't able to study...

High IQ sees pattern, learn and adapt faster but in no way the fact that being a genius in calculus can be translated into getting women or maybe it's me and this guy is drowning into pussies

[rockoman]

Relevant link:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/research-lin...lse-246164

Snippet:

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It's possible that students with high IQs aren't having much sex, resorting to sex toys as a means of achieving sexual gratification. This theory reinforces what researchers have said time and time again for years: people with higher IQs have less sex than everyone else.

"Intelligence is negatively associated with sex frequency," said sociologist Rosemary Hopcroft in a 2011 article for Psychology Today. "It's a bit dismaying."

Hopcroft said that people who have attended higher education institutions are less likely to have sex on a frequent basis and have less sexual partners than those who have not. Her contentions were confirmed by a joint sex survey by MIT and Wellesley College that found that a high IQ can delay sexual activity into early adulthood.

According to a 2007 article entitled "Intercourse and Intelligence," 80 percent of U.S. males and 75 percent of U.S. women have had sex by the age of 19. Compare that to 56 percent of Princeton undergraduates, 59 percent of Harvard undergraduates and 51 percent of MIT undergraduates who report having had sexual intercourse. What's more, only 65 percent of MIT graduate students have had sex.
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It's well known that IQ is associated with slower life histories (k-selected vs r-selected), so it is possible that those with high IQ are just late starters. I was also a late starter at 19 ( with high IQ) but as life has gone on things have got better and better - I am now mid-fifties.

From experience and observation I would guess that for older men (40 +) high IQ is a definite advantage, enabling it's possessor by that time to have got all his shit together - lots of money, well-rounded life experience, brimming with self-confidence etc etc.

Don't confuse intelligence with nerdiness.

[ElJefe]

Humor is an indicator of intelligence, so... be funny.

[Truth Teller]

It's a blessing and a curse: high IQ allows you to learn basic game very quickly and also to analyze what's going wrong and what you need to do better in the future.

On the other hand, it also lets you grossly overestimate the amount of control you have over a situation or overanalyze situations. As someone with a naturally depressive bias, I sometimes end up blaming myself for things I know I had no control over.

[crispytaco]

Learn Spanish, Portuguese, Russian and mandarin.

[cawa:]

(03-23-2017 08:38 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

[...]depressive bias[...]

what kind of nurture have you applied to this bias of yours?

[Fortis]

(03-21-2017 11:59 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Suits, Geomann180, and Fortis already hit it on the first page.

The tendency for people who perceive themselves as having higher intelligence is to go full gamma:

vox day Wrote:

Gamma: The introspective, the unusual, the unattractive, and all too often the bitter. Gammas are often intelligent, usually unsuccessful with women, and not uncommonly all but invisible to them, the gamma alternates between placing women on pedestals and hating the entire sex. This mostly depends upon whether an attractive woman happened to notice his existence or not that day. Too introspective for their own good, gammas are the men who obsess over individual women for extended periods of time and supply the ranks of stalkers, psycho-jealous ex-boyfriends, and the authors of excruciatingly romantic rhyming doggerel. In the unlikely event they are at the party, they are probably in the corner muttering darkly about the behavior of everyone else there... sometimes to themselves. Gammas tend to have have a worship/hate relationship with women, the current direction of which is directly tied to their present situation. However, they are sexual rejects, not social rejects.

Lifetime voluntary sexual partners = .5x average

Vox day actually has a wealth of knowledge on that subject here: http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/search/label/Gamma

I've dealt with this issue in the past. I've worked substantially on my social IQ, body language, and other soft skills so that I can pass as dumb or as smart as I want.

I tend to underplay my intelligence a substantial amount of the time.

It's to the point that when girls see a glimpse of my accomplishments that they are intimidated. It's scared the kitten several times .

So I downplay my accomplishments. It has made my working life and my social life a lot more lubricated. And has gotten me a lot more pussy.

I don't get pedantic and obsessive over trivia like I used to, and I find the trait extremely annoying amongst people. I encounter it a lot, working with many very educated individuals.

You have to pop the "My brain is the center of the universe" bubble in a social setting in order to not come off as an 'sperging robot to women.

I joke or deflect questions about my profession unless I think the girl is the type to actually appreciate it. For younger girls, I flat out lie by understating it.

If you cannot use your so called intelligence to learn to actively tease girls when that's what they really desire, and how to fix your body posture, then you are not as smart as you think.

Apathy is a cop out.

I know because I was in denial about my need to change for many, many years.

For the bookish type, I recommend "Explaining Social Behavior" by Elster, as well.

Yup, a big part of being smart is knowing when you don't want to appear as intelligent as you are. I think Mike Cernovich calls it "being the grey man."

It took me years to "get over myself" and just have more fun. I dont always enjoy not being able to fire off random factoids, but it pays dividends.

that dude who is always being smart and contrarian is often the dude who everyone disappears on when it comes time for the after parties or the fun nights.

As Miles Davis once said, "sometimes it's about the notes you don't play."

Sometimes it's about the shit you don't say.

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 12:37 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

social IQ

nitpicking - "social IQ" seems like a misnomer. there is of course "social intelligence", but LEAVE IQ ALONE TO 'PERGS LIKE ME!!!

[Fortis]

Don't do that in person. That'll get you out of the pussy faster than anything.

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 07:50 AM)Fortis Wrote:  



Don't do that in person. That'll get you out of the pussy faster than anything.

objection, your fortis honor!

a) we are not "in person".
b) i surely hope you don't have a pussy.
c) you are DAMN right - that was a purposefully crafted example of how NOT to be a 'sperg with ladies.

:-)

p.s. i'm an NOT a 'sperg - i only play one on TV.

[Fortis]

ironi-sperging

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 08:28 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

ironi-sperging

you gotta turn that esp/sixth sense on - or has it atrophied completely after years of mis-use?

i've never been confused for a sperg, woman or a homosexual in real life [well, not since 8 years old, at least], but often am confused for that when i participate in on-line communities.

can you guess why?

[Fortis]

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 08:56 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

who is the 'speg now?

[Phoenix]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 09:05 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

What the hell is wrong with you?

you tell me

[Fortis]

I think we know exactly what's wrong with him:

[blck]

(03-24-2017 09:06 AM)cawa: Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 09:05 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

What the hell is wrong with you?

you tell me

[cawa:]

i'm not a troll - i'm a heretic.

big difference!

[Phoenix]

You're a really lame troll dude. I expect much more from an RVF troll.

These trolls need to lift their game. This is the RVF. You're trolling the big boys here.

[cawa:]

(03-24-2017 09:25 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

You're a really lame troll dude. I expect much more from an RVF troll.

These trolls need to lift their game. This is the RVF. You're trolling the big boys here.

learn to read BETWEEN the lines!

[cawa:]

and, please, i beg you, o-respected-and-highly-repped-member-of-the-forum, ENLIGHTEN me on in which way i am a troll in which i am not a heretic.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

[Travesty]

I think the best use of it is getting a nice place for bringing girls to.

Getting the right champagne.

And most importantly, finding ways to get out of buying appetizers. Guys that buy appetizers I've noticed are tied strongly to a lower IQ.

Seriously though the most useful trait in practice as mentioned before is juggling the organization and logistics of hanging out with 4+ girls in a week, text, call back times, which attitude to bring to which girl based on her mood, while keeping your stories straight about what you've been up to lately.

Foreign language and musical instrument, also previously mentioned, are great - I think you really need to commit to become not just kinda good, you need to be great at either for it to really matter.

[AnonymousBosch]

(03-23-2017 02:22 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Humor is an indicator of intelligence, so... be funny.

Specifically: be intelligent enough to know what your current audience will find funny, not what personally-amuses you.