[TravelerKai]

(03-18-2017 01:14 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

Transformers is huge in China. I hope it isn't a bad influence.

Asia period.

You know if someone were to possibly notify the Chinese police about certain things wrong with the film, a report might get sent up to Beijing.

It's happened to a certain magazine...

[TravelerKai]

(03-18-2017 12:36 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I think that the propaganda takes it up a notch since they barely lost 100 mio. $ with the Ghostbusters crap.

They realized with the Star Wars Mary Sue and the new Mad Maxine that they can put in tons of feminist and SJW crap into it - so long as they wrap it all in glorious special effects, then the dumbed down public will cough up the cash and watch it. The kids are easily wooed by pure imagery without substance. They don't even notice the feminist memes.

Art has always been about propaganda - I remember reading about the fears the globalists had in the 19th century when the majority of the public became literate. They were afraid that the common people would read real books and find out what evil shit they have been doing. So they pumped out a lot of cheap penny-novels that were literally available for pennies. All of them were about some inane stuff - war and adventure for the men and stories of romantic love with the secret Lord for the ladies. And they realized pretty soon that for most of the public this kind of entertainment was enough to sidetrack them. Today they even have way more powerful tools.

In 30 years they will do a Transgender Superman and Batwoman and the public will love it just as they always do:



There may be some limits to indoctrination, but I haven't seen them yet frankly.

Say Zel, I thought Ghostbusters tanked? If I understood it lost a lot of money.

When I was in college I took a class on Film History. I took it as an elective and I don't really like movies for the most part, so forgive me if I stumble through this.

We had a section of this class that focused on historical market research of film-goers in America.

I recall that most movies in American theaters are seen by males between 18-40? Also they taught us that all research showed that most women actually went to theaters because male family/significant others dragged them there. Hollywood knew this and would purposely target young males in attempts to drag them out to the theater because they knew that they are even more likely to bring along a girl or their mothers and sisters.

I also remember the professor saying that women historically/culturally in the US, tended not go to movies alone and if the men in their lives were not interested in a certain movie they wanted to see, the chances of them skipping out on seeing that movie was much higher.

Now this was back in 2005 I think.

Has times changed? Is this data legit anymore?

For them to keep making these kinds of movies, I am curious as to where they are getting the justification to get these approvals from studios to produce these. Use to be movies used market research ALOT before making a movie.

Is the market research showing an actual change in American film viewing culture?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The Cuntbusters lost somewhere between 70-100 mio. $ since they did a ton of merchendising.

But the feminist Starwars made 1.5 billion net and the Rogue One Feminist shit made 600 mio. net. Sure it's a different studio, but if the people are eating shit if the franchise is strong enough and there is at least one good male lead, then they will go watch it.

An apocalyptic Transformers movie is probably the best idea, the feminist part is just thrown into it.

Personally I think that the propaganda is blatant only to us. Back before I woke up to the machinations of the world I sensed that something was getting strange and worse, but could not put the finger on it. Also the Red Pill opened another spectrum of realization. Movies like Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy outperformed because they were including bearable fem-propaganda and had funny and masculine leads in it. But those movies almost did not get made - Deadpool only because the main actor made the trailer before the movie was greenlit. Movies like Fightclub cost the entire production crew the job because the studio owner did not approve of the movie being made (yes all producers were sacked).

I said before that I don't think that Hollywood is truly about money. The globalists don't want to lose too much in aggregate - it goes the way of the Newspapers, the TV stations and the sports franchises. The globalists own these for ego, for indoctrination, for pushing their own propaganda. It costs them a few million, but that is nothing to the true trillionaires that make up the real FORBES 20 list. (Transfering your trillions to your own foundation that your family controls tax-free forever is not giving it away - Rockefeller-Rothschild-Gates-Buffet "giving")

Propaganda movies and TV is like the elections worldwide - no matter how much lies and crap politicians are putting out - folk are still believing in it.

[brick tamland]

So I saw it.
A very long movie at 2 & and a half hours, needing quite a bit of attention to keep up despite all the flash and fluff. Yes, the SJW-ism is strong. There's a weird sequence in the flashbacks to the 400's AD where there's a black man in a battle scene. When did Africans arrive in Britain?
The half Hispanic teen chick Isabella Moner plays a mini heroine, yet it's difficult to see what she actually accomplishes, except for supposedly being tough and surviving by herself. She's 17 otherwise I'd comment about her rack (wink). Laura Haddock, the Brit chick is another assertive mini heroine. Mark Wahlberg takes plenty of backchat from these two chicks.
All in all the movie is a mixed bag. For example they have a top notch actor in Sir Anthony Hopkins and the special effects and action scenes are up there. On the other hand, it's a showcase for political correctness.

[dknightbro]

I used to enjoy watching Hollywood movies.

Now I can't watch any one without some forced "GRRL POWER!" infusion.

The West decline is real and it's an engine that can't be stopped.

Extinction of femininity will be the downfall as men find no reason to strive anymore for females.

Call me gay, but I find the lack of femininity in the West extremely unappealing. It's spreading throughout the world, but there are still areas where it's not fully dead...yet.

Having been in those areas for several years and now being back in the US again, I can hardly believe how much my NGAF levels have skyrocketed when it comes to females. I don't care how attractive they are. If I have to hear another word about grrl empowerment or how the "future is female" I will go insane.

My game probably leveled up tenfolds because I genuinely DGAF about this forced "GRRL Power" agenda and no, you really think I'm going to believe this BS about the independent or "I don't need no man" attitude making a girl more attractive.

The ONLY reason I still plan to practice game in the West is to enhance social skills. I have 0 emotional attachment to getting results in the West if it means I have to listen to another minute of "what can YOU do for ME?" or other stupid games.

Macho bravado men bragging or putting down other men for not getting their results? I couldn't care less. I know how to find more femininity elsewhere.

[britchard]

It looks like an awful film even if it took out the feminist propaganda, the first Transformers was good though (mainly because it featured Megan Fox, and was released in 2007 before the current SJW mania fully set in).

I wouldn't waste too much breath on complaining. Let the results speak for themselves- this is no way going to be a hit film, their target is probably just to break even. No-one I know is hyped for this at all, haven't even heard it mentioned unlike when people were looking forward to Transformers 2.

[King of Monkeys]

I dropped Transformers after watching the second one. I'm not sure how you go from mildly entertaining and a watchable movie to a complete borefest that makes me feel like I'm going cross-eyed because my eyes don't know where to focus.

I'd like to see someone else besides Michael Bay at the helm of Transformers All I care about is having a fun action movie with giant talking robots knocking the shit out of each other with some nice titties and thighs in the background. I don't think that's asking for too much.

[CynicalContrarian]

(07-09-2017 02:13 PM)britchard Wrote:  

It looks like an awful film even if it took out the feminist propaganda, the first Transformers was good though (mainly because it featured Megan Fox, and was released in 2007 before the current SJW mania fully set in).

I wouldn't waste too much breath on complaining. Let the results speak for themselves- this is no way going to be a hit film, their target is probably just to break even. No-one I know is hyped for this at all, haven't even heard it mentioned unlike when people were looking forward to Transformers 2.

From reading a no. of reviews & watching various YouTube clips. I get the impression that after having the first four films written off as convoluted shite.
Michael Bay purposefully went out of his way to make the most convoluted Transformers movie he could.

[Vicious]

I loved Transformers as a kid. The Michael Bay movies have been sheer abuse on my childhood. There was a British movie critic whose 2 min review of Transformers 3 consisted of him solely banging his head on a wall and a rock. I liked how that entirely summed up my feelings about the franchise currently.

[sonoran_]

Ive been seeing an ad for a trailer on Twitter with the caption "... female James Bond... "

Do these Hollywood fgts not learn that these male replaced female movies are not wanted by even the sheeple.

[CynicalContrarian]

(07-10-2017 12:19 AM)sonoran_ Wrote:  

Ive been seeing an ad for a trailer on Twitter with the caption "... female James Bond... "

Do these Hollywood fgts not learn that these male replaced female movies are not wanted by even the sheeple.

They'd best wait & see if that "Atomic Blonde" film does well or not.

Then there's the 'cad' nature of James Bond.
If the female version is a direct copy, they'd run the risk of her being dismissed as a harlot.

[ausername]

I never got into the Michael Bay films, but it was fun reading leftist reviewers lambaste a supposed lack of diversity among the cast, only to describe any robot with a persona not modeled on an Anglo-European a "stereotype".

The 80s Transformers were certainly more masculine than today's bio-cucks:

[questor70]

This is what SJW becomes in the end, just another way to broaden markets. It's a total corporate decision as Transformers has always been seen as a male-dominated franchise.

It is a delicate art to do female action heroes in a way that motivates women to see them while simultaneously NOT alienating men with standoffish "grrrl power" grandstanding. James Cameron wrote the book on it and now he's embroiled in debates with Patty Jenkins.

[Cumlluminates]

Transfeminist - The Last One, sounds more like the correct title.

[2 Cool 4 U]

This and ROTF are the worst Transformers films I've ever seen

[The Father]

(03-16-2017 09:30 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

What doubling down looks like, though at least they Youtube commenters are not buying it.

From a movie standpoint, it looks like the whole thing was filmed in front of a green screen.

Comments are harsh:

"WOMEN DON'T LIKE ROBOTS!!! How hard is this to understand?!"