[UrbanNerd]

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 09:23 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

Then this goes back to men not "marrying down financially". If the couple is in California and his assets are $1,000,000 and hers is $800,000 and combined they are 1,800,000...then from a CALIFORNIA divorce, each takes $900,000. Seems to me that marrying the $800,000 chick is much safer than marrying the $30,000 receptionist.

[Pusscrook]

(09-06-2011 11:49 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 09:23 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

U.N. ,

Yu have valid points, but you are reference a post that was at best , cut off so as to not bore the pussy getting forum. Now that you have laid down the challenge of (a),not being able to protect your assets or your future, and (b) me being open to learning a bit more. I'm assuming you live(d), or got married in California? If so, remember you state it does not matter where you marry whether it be bali or bora bora, correct ? Is this because you live in California? I will put my "cowboy" ( as you call me) hat , chaps, spurs, and boots on, and show you that you could've done it if you were diligent enough to set it up right from the beginning. You chose to tell it and never gave thought as to setting it up the right way initially.The only thing that you would've had to be worried about was, if she said no. So, when I tell you how, you will take back this " cowboy" comment and proclaim your new found knowledge on this forum so as to not make people think I am typing out the side of may ass. deal?

Pusscrook

[Moma]

(09-04-2011 07:41 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I have a different perspective. In my experience, women who make 80% of their husbands salaries are much more likely to divorce because they have "independent income". Then they lose their jobs, or the man loses his job, and the divorce turns into a financial calamity with kids as victims.

Women who make *more* than their husbands paycheck will *always* divorce...usually at the time when the man is really starting to enjoy raising his kids. Usually women want the man around for the shitty part of childraising -- age 0 to 5 or so -- and when the kids get fun, that just happens to be when they want to dump the hubby and deny his further access.

My solution is, my wife knows very well that she can't survive on her own, and I don't make anywhere near enough to support both of us independently. So we are incentivized to stick it out, for pure survival reasons.

Note that our country is going into a Depression which means, divorced families, unless they are rich, will end up living in their car and eating at the food bank (have seen this happen several time in our neighborhood). Depression, suicides, homelessness...all on the rise, and divorce is the top of the list of reasons.

You raise an extremely interesting point (in bold).

One of my lizards (a legit six figure owner) did the same thing as soon as she got on her feet (got that phat job and started banking major coin). Her former husband is a wasteman to her and she doesn't value him cos his paper is as short as Jiminy Cricket.

She lets him pitch in for the kids as he has stronger principles when it comes to morals and how the kids are supposed to respect their parents and what have you but she absolutely shyts on him when it comes to breadwinning stuff (taking the kids on vacation, buying them shyt).

[Moma]

(09-05-2011 11:15 PM)guey Wrote:  

Quote:

Seems the safest course would be to avoid marriage altogether.

^^
This.

Why do you need a the Government's and/or Church's stamp of approval on your personal relationships? Marriage is an antiquated premise, quite foolish IMO given people's outlandish expectations for it.

Only way I'll ever get married is to circumvent immigration law. Otherwise, no way.

This just seems like a no-brainer. If you're even CONTEMPLATING a pre-nup, wtf are you marrying her for?

Just my opinion.

You never know how a lizard can switch it up. A pre-nup is a method of insuring oneself.

It's a bit like a person refusing to wear their seatbelt when they get into a car because they don't expect to get into a snafu.

You can only vouch so much for yourself (and even that can be iffy at times). How much can you vouch for another human being?

You should always have a safety net on the side. Lizards are the weaker sex. Due to this, it is inherent in their nature to be crafty and to leverage whatever they can for the oneup.

In this matriarchal society where they can fcuk a man over, get your pre-nup on.
Purchase your house in your mum's name.
I know a guy like that (here in Canada) who did that and avoided some of a major fcukover when his ex-wife tried to take him to the cleaners.

[Moma]

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

How can your offshore accounts be easily uncovered? What do you mean by easy?

[Parlay44]

(09-06-2011 04:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:15 PM)guey Wrote:  

Quote:

Seems the safest course would be to avoid marriage altogether.

^^
This.

Why do you need a the Government's and/or Church's stamp of approval on your personal relationships? Marriage is an antiquated premise, quite foolish IMO given people's outlandish expectations for it.

Only way I'll ever get married is to circumvent immigration law. Otherwise, no way.

This just seems like a no-brainer. If you're even CONTEMPLATING a pre-nup, wtf are you marrying her for?

Just my opinion.

You never know how a lizard can switch it up. A pre-nup is a method of insuring oneself.

It's a bit like a person refusing to wear their seatbelt when they get into a car because they don't expect to get into a snafu.

You can only vouch so much for yourself (and even that can be iffy at times). How much can you vouch for another human being?

You should always have a safety net on the side. Lizards are the weaker sex. Due to this, it is inherent in their nature to be crafty and to leverage whatever they can for the oneup.

In this matriarchal society where they can fcuk a man over, get your pre-nup on.
Purchase your house in your mum's name.
I know a guy like that (here in Canada) who did that and avoided some of a major fcukover when his ex-wife tried to take him to the cleaners.

I know a girl who was given her family home after she got married. It stayed in her father's name though. She got caught cheating 3 years later. He went through her phone and found text messages. He tried to take her for half the house but couldn't do it cause it wasn't really hers yet.

[Pusscrook]

(09-06-2011 03:53 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(09-06-2011 11:49 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

[quote] (09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

U.N. ,

Yu have valid points, but you are reference a post that was at best , cut off so as to not bore the pussy getting forum. Now that you have laid down the challenge of (a),not being able to protect your assets or your future, and (b) me being open to learning a bit more. I'm assuming you live(d), or got married in California? If so, remember you state it does not matter where you marry whether it be bali or bora bora, correct ? Is this because you live in California? I will put my "cowboy" ( as you call me) hat , chaps, spurs, and boots on, and show you that you could've done it if you were diligent enough to set it up right from the beginning. You chose to tell it and never gave thought as to setting it up the right way initially.The only thing that you would've had to be worried about was, if she said no. So, when I tell you how, you will take back this " cowboy" comment and proclaim your new found knowledge on this forum so as to not make people think I am typing out the side of may ass. deal?

Pusscrook

U.N.,
I am waiting for you to accept the challenge. Per your post(s), you seem like the marrying type ,but if I am wrong , please correct me.If you are truly a millionaire, you got some wretched information prior to your marriage to that whore.You should stone the bitch that made you think that, and you should poison your lawyer who made you sign anything resembling what SHE wanted or could get!. Perhaps your vision was skewed by love or the pussy this whore offered up, which in turn lead you to make rash decisions instead of understanding they are ways, PRIOR to you even contemplating marriage . Now, this new "revelation" you have stumbled upon because you had several meeting with lawyers ( "it's not possible to protect my assets" ) will lead men on here to think there is nothing they can do to secure their earnings at all if the bitch decides to skate .This is surely not the case. Jiminy Crickets, who are you working for? We may differ on how to go about it, but you have laid this down as if it were an edict handed down from the seven mountains of Rome. You can PM me night or day if you so desire, but this is real bad intel to be spewing on here just because you got cleaned out by that hagfish. Thank Jesus you sent the new "lady" you were seeing on a mission to find another bank ,but, really and truly, this information you are transmitting here certainly cannot be considered as absolute.

"Cowboy" Pusscrook

[Samseau]

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 09:23 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

There really aren't any reasons to get married.

[Parlay44]

(09-09-2011 11:12 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 09:23 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

There really aren't any reasons to get married.

I guess there are no hopeless romantics in this forum. hahaha

[oldnemesis]

(09-09-2011 11:12 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

There really aren't any reasons to get married.

There are. Just marry someone who is doing equally or better than you.

[Wizard]

(09-09-2011 12:39 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 11:12 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:19 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 09:23 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

This is common knowledge, why do we need to google any of this?

because of statements like this

"Do everything way in advance of the marriage. Off shore accounts , irrevocable trust funds etc. I think each state and judge interprets the legitimacy and potency of your pre-nup differently so find pre-nup friendly states to marry. Better yet, marry a bitch/sign pre-nup overseas"

That is false. And it is your quote. It does not matter where you marry or where you sign the pre-nup. If you live in California and she files for divorce in California then you will be subject to the California laws even if you signed your prenuptial agreement in Bali and were married in Bora Bora.

Also, your off shore accounts can easily be uncovered. Note that if you do not disclose all of your assets at the signing of your prenup then it can be considered null and void because she signed based on incomplete information. I have been through a big divorce in the past and just recently I spent many visits with my attorney in an attempt to get a prenuptial agreement together for the lady I've been dating for the past few years. My conclusion: It is just not possible to properly protect my assets (a few million) or my future. I let her go.

Again, perhaps be open to learning a bit more. Easy cowboy...

There really aren't any reasons to get married.

I guess there are no hopeless romantics in this forum. hahaha

Sure there are, the problem is us hopeless romantics get constantly burned by the realities of nature, and biology.

[Jevioso]

Fortune favors the bold.

If you're not bold enough to challenge someone who is bold enough to say, she loves you, but is willing to possibly take half your wealth, you deserve to be at the bottom of the totem pole, with your legs spread open, while your ex tries to throw your $20,000 ring into your asshole.

[bacan]

I just read this because I'm trying to answer the question if I'll ever get married in life or not

I think a lot of guys struggle with wanting the best of both worlds -- the thrill of new sex, variety of beautiful women / the comfort of companionship, having a family

Pre-nups seem to be pretty weak..

[esperar]

(08-24-2011 02:44 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

How do you guys feel about girls like this and pre-nups?

Girls like this just confirm what I think about chicks being cheating sluts and if you don't get married you don't need a prenup.