[Going strong]

We all know (and it's been stressed by D. Trump himself these last months) that the main-stream "lefto-globalist" media are a fierce threat to the people (of most, if not all, Western nations).

It's MSM indeed that continuously promotes suicidal "liberal" policies, like "open borders" or LGBT activism - policies funded by Soros and the likes, in order to weaken Western civilizations and replace their honest and hard-working (and red-pill) populations by more compliant new-comers, broadly called "migrants" or "refugees" (which they aren't, they are opportunist economic invaders, and in some cases, actual terrorists).

So, President Trump and his administration are absolutely right, leading as they do the fight against fake-news MSM - for instance, by barring CNN and consorts from attending some WH meetings. Well-done!

Now, fighting against American MSM is obviously a gigantic task (that nobody but Donald Trump can and hopefully will achieve). But, beating foreign MSM might be quite easy, once D. Trump decides that time has come for such action:

The White House could, and should, revoke visas (or, not issue new ones) for foreign MSM journalists who insult the President and foment unrest. Or just bar them from re-entering the US, considering that they are a threat to society.

I mean, if you watch TV in almost any country of the world today, you'll see hundreds, thousands of foreign journalists, "press correspondents" settled in Washington DC or wherever in the US, and they all heap insults and curses on the current American president (they were all fierce supporters of Crooked Hillary)... Each time I see that, I'm thinking: well, the new US administration should throw them out of the country, or at the least, refuse to issue new working visas for them when time has come.

Maybe the best thing to do, would be to act covertly: not actually deporting all these leftist foreign press-correspondents (even though there's legal basis for deportation, seeing as they've threatened and insulted the President, especially during the campaign), but, instead and in each case, refusing to let them re-enter the US... Or, say, using against them a version of the Smith Act ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act ) or branding them seditious Agents Provocateurs.

I'll give you an example:
There's a press correspondent working from DC for the BFM (French) main-stream TV station. A balding 50 y.o. ugly dude, who during the campaign issued threats and insults to the US president. After the election of D. Trump, this French correspondent got cautious for a couple of weeks, but now, he's at it again, emboldened by the leftists ( thread-60117.html ). Here he is on French TV, each day almost, bad-mouthing the US president, from Washington! So I mean: shouldn't the US expel him? Shouldn't the US expel all foreign press correspondents issuing threats or insulting the current US president, or having done so during the campaign? And on the other hand, to replace them, the US should probably invite foreign (talented but poorly funded) journalists from "alt-right" and Conservative media and even successful, influential right-wing blogs!

To sum it up: The D. Trump administration cannot easily defeat their leftist, seditious opponents from domestic MSM, but, they absolutely can defeat, quick and easy, the foreign MSM journalists who promote unrest from within the US : "Get'em out of here, troublemakers!!"

[Tytalus]

I don't know enough about diplomacy and whatnot to comment for sure... But tossing out foreign journalists ranks up there as supremely bad imagery worldwide.

[John Michael Kane]

While I agree that most of the press (foreign and domestic) are bastards, kicking them out isn't the right solution. It is far better to let the leeches stay, and call out their lies. Trump should print out lies of things like the "last night in Sweden" debacle, then print out another article about all the grenade attacks in Malmo. Show the two print outs side-by-side, and ask: Is the media dishonest folks, or what? They know damn well the migration is causing problems. Believe me! Bigly problems! (Shake head).

They have to go back.

(mic drop)

Much more effective than kicking the journalists out. Beat them with their own words.

[britchard]

(02-28-2017 07:11 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

The White House could, and should, revoke visas (or, not issue new ones) for foreign MSM journalists who insult the President and foment unrest. Or just bar them from re-entering the US, considering that they are a threat to society.

Not a good idea. They might produce fake news stories, but Trump should just use his huge platform to denounce the journalists/organisations that make these stories, with proof of course.

Banning foreign journalists would be a fair comparison to Hitler/Stalin-esque policies. Although it wouldn't be an entirely fair comparison, as the Internet can make up for that loss. But still, not a clever thing to do.

[The Beast1]

So long as Trump makes an example of the jack offs at the BBC, i'm all for it.

[Going strong]

(03-01-2017 01:33 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

I don't know enough about diplomacy and whatnot to comment for sure... But tossing out foreign journalists ranks up there as supremely bad imagery worldwide.

It would rank as bad imagery, sure, but only for people who already hate D. Trump: the worldwide leftists.

On the other hand, for Conservative people worldwide, it would be a powerful, delicious move. It would in any case send a clear signal to all foreigners, across the world: do not fuck with or disrespect the new US administration, or they will kick you out, out, out...

Also, it can be achieved in less dramatic ways: By just refusing to let'em MSM journalists re-enter the US. Stop them at the airports, send them back right away. Use the anti-sedition acts and laws, for they are foreign seditious individuals.

No country has to tolerate on its ground foreign people who call for disorder, incite leftist and violent manifestations, and insult the elected president. The D. Trump administration would have legal basis for deportation of such individuals, especially unruly and hostile foreign journalists involved in sedition.

[All or Nothing]

(02-28-2017 07:11 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

The White House could, and should, revoke visas (or, not issue new ones) for foreign MSM journalists who insult the President and foment unrest. Or just bar them from re-entering the US, considering that they are a threat to society.

I think this may be a violation of the First Amendment. Even if the journalists are foreigners, as long as they are not acting as part of a conspiracy to hurt the United States, foreign people are afforded some of our constitution rights.

I would also say that attempts to ban journalists who represent our president in a bad light would have a corrosive effect on our own personal freedom of speech. A key part of free speech is to allow those who disagree with us to speak, this even includes a hostile press (foreign or citizen).

If our own president tries to directly silence the press, it would mean a shift away from a free and open society and could hurt our collective rights in the long run.

[Going strong]

(03-01-2017 10:40 AM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 07:11 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

The White House could, and should, revoke visas (or, not issue new ones) for foreign MSM journalists who insult the President and foment unrest. Or just bar them from re-entering the US, considering that they are a threat to society.

I think this may be a violation of the First Amendment. Even if the journalists are foreigners, as long as they are not acting as part of a conspiracy to hurt the United States, foreign people are afforded some of our constitution rights.

I would also say that attempts to ban journalists who represent our president in a bad light would have a corrosive effect on our own personal freedom of speech. A key part of free speech is to allow those who disagree with us to speak, this even includes a hostile press (foreign or citizen).

If our own president tries to directly silence the press, it would mean a shift away from a free and open society and could hurt our collective rights in the long run.

I am not saying that American journalists should be "silenced" (even though, when they become openly seditious, aren't they breaking the Law?), I'm saying that foreign journalists should be expelled if and when they insult or threaten the US President.

By the way, I am no specialist, but... it is not my understanding of the First Amendment that foreigners could claim it as protection... Foreigners, understandably, have less Constitutional rights wherever in the world they happen to be, than citizens.

An example: last Saturday, two of the most "famous" French journalists, called for the murder of the US president! Names be named: F. Foresti and gay-lord L. Ruquier... Don't you think that they should end up on no-flight lists, or if they ever set foot in the US, be jailed and later on, expelled?

Source: http://www.fdesouche.com/827963-appels-a...sit-le-csa
"Il peut paraître étrange que des animateurs de la télévision appellent au meurtre. Il est encore plus étrange qu’ils le fassent sur les chaines du service public. Il est toujours plus étrange qu’ils le fassent deux fois dans la même journée au sujet de la même personne, appelant au meurtre de Donald Trump.

C’est pourtant ce qui est arrivé sur France 2 le samedi 25 février. Le matin dans l’émission « Thé ou café » avec Florence Foresti et le soir dans « On n’est pas couché » avec Laurent Ruquier et sans que la présidente de France Télévisions s’en inquiète."

Translation: It may seem strange that television hosts call for murder. It is even stranger that they do so on the public service channels. It is even stranger that they do it twice on the same day - about the same person, calling for the murder of Donald Trump.

Yet this is what happened on France 2 on Saturday, February 25th. The morning in the program "Tea or coffee" with Florence Foresti and the evening in "One is not asleep" with Laurent Ruquier, and all this without the president of France Televisions expressing condemnation.

I mean, almost everywhere in the world, if a foreigner disrespects the current Head of State, this foreigner is either jailed or expelled (or both). Think of what would happen to a foreigner insulting the King of Thailand, or the Chinese or Russian president... so, why should the US allow foreigners to call for violence and hatred against the current administration?

So, well, President Trump cannot do much (at the moment) against seditious US-citizen leftists, but, on the other hand, against foreign leftists and provocateurs: he can just expel them all or simply bar them from entering (the US).