Found it. The old lady put up a website: http://www.hospedagemsaopedro.com.br hope that helps you. let me know if you rent there.
Living in Brazil Long Term
It's been a while since I last checked in here. I just read over this thread and now I'm laughing at my younger self for wanting to come here and be an extra.
English teaching is where its at. There is HUGE demand for native English teachers here and not enough of them to go around. All of the teachers I've met here have full schedules teaching, with the friends and relatives of their students lining up to be able to take classes with them. Its great for me as I've managed to get a few students through the gringo network.
I still haven't gotten my own place yet because in the last two weeks I've joined up with two other English teachers and we are looking for a house together that we can build into an English school.
I've taken a job at one institute to have some structure in my life, and to get in the right rhythm while I'm building up my army of private students. They pay R$31 per hour, and the market rate for private teaching seems to be around R$50 per hour. All of the students I have are pretty close together so I don't have to walk more than 20 minutes to get to them. I use the time during classes to work on my project which I will talk about later. I'm still experimenting to find a good cafe with wifi. The problem with the girls here isn't their attractiveness, because the quality here is unbelievable. The problem I'm having is finding girls that I can vibe with. Most of the people I meet in Savassi are either stuck up patricinhas or they are 40 year old MILF's who have no interest in me.
My plan for the future goes something like this:
1. Work at English institute. Find private students on the side. Work on brazil travel/english learning website.
2. Stop working at institute, only have private students.
3. Start a school, hire other teachers, teach only students that I want to teach. Focus most of my energy on creating value for expats and toursts coming to Brazil as well as Brazilians learning English.
4. Website is so successful that I have the freedom to spend all of my time traveling and writing about Brazil.
One thing I've been thinking about after the recent Bang Iceland controversy is how my involvement on this forum can affect my future business. If I link to posts on my blog from here how many people realistically would see that? I can't imagine it being very many, but I am concerned about being labeled a sex tourist.
Other observations:
A gringo I know here married a Brazilian girl. They lived abroad for a few years. After she got married she gained 23 pounds. Poor guy.
I've met two American women here. One is an English teacher and she bitches all the time. The other one is incredibly hard to talk to because she always gives opinions about the stupidest shit, like she gave me a 4 minute lecture on her smoking history, including details that no male would have thought to give. I was smiling on the inside while I was listening to her because she validated everything I've read on this forum about American women and highlights the superiority of Brazilian women.
There is a large contingency of foreigners who married a Brazilian, had a kid here, got divorced and stayed here so they could be with their kids. They are generally an unhappy bunch and stick together bitching about women and Brazil and reinforce their negativity. Moral of the story, don't have a kid in Brazil unless you're prepared to fight against the Brazilian justice system which is skewed in favor of Brazilian women.
I really love Belo Horizonte and I want to increase the number of smart gringos living in this city. One service I'm going to offer in the future is a relocation service, where I help foreigners move to BH, find an apartment and get them an English teaching job if that's what they wish. One of the reasons I love Brazil is that you don't need credentials to get a job teaching English, being a native speaker is enough to get you a job almost anywhere. A lot of college graduates who are more qualified than me on paper to teach English are having a hard time finding work in the US. I want to help those people start a new life abroad, where they can make a decent living doing fun and easy work, in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born. I want to help minimize the challenges faced during the transition period of moving to a new country and experiencing a new culture.
What do you guys think, is that a service that would have a lot of success?
English teaching is where its at. There is HUGE demand for native English teachers here and not enough of them to go around. All of the teachers I've met here have full schedules teaching, with the friends and relatives of their students lining up to be able to take classes with them. Its great for me as I've managed to get a few students through the gringo network.
I still haven't gotten my own place yet because in the last two weeks I've joined up with two other English teachers and we are looking for a house together that we can build into an English school.
I've taken a job at one institute to have some structure in my life, and to get in the right rhythm while I'm building up my army of private students. They pay R$31 per hour, and the market rate for private teaching seems to be around R$50 per hour. All of the students I have are pretty close together so I don't have to walk more than 20 minutes to get to them. I use the time during classes to work on my project which I will talk about later. I'm still experimenting to find a good cafe with wifi. The problem with the girls here isn't their attractiveness, because the quality here is unbelievable. The problem I'm having is finding girls that I can vibe with. Most of the people I meet in Savassi are either stuck up patricinhas or they are 40 year old MILF's who have no interest in me.
My plan for the future goes something like this:
1. Work at English institute. Find private students on the side. Work on brazil travel/english learning website.
2. Stop working at institute, only have private students.
3. Start a school, hire other teachers, teach only students that I want to teach. Focus most of my energy on creating value for expats and toursts coming to Brazil as well as Brazilians learning English.
4. Website is so successful that I have the freedom to spend all of my time traveling and writing about Brazil.
One thing I've been thinking about after the recent Bang Iceland controversy is how my involvement on this forum can affect my future business. If I link to posts on my blog from here how many people realistically would see that? I can't imagine it being very many, but I am concerned about being labeled a sex tourist.
Other observations:
A gringo I know here married a Brazilian girl. They lived abroad for a few years. After she got married she gained 23 pounds. Poor guy.
I've met two American women here. One is an English teacher and she bitches all the time. The other one is incredibly hard to talk to because she always gives opinions about the stupidest shit, like she gave me a 4 minute lecture on her smoking history, including details that no male would have thought to give. I was smiling on the inside while I was listening to her because she validated everything I've read on this forum about American women and highlights the superiority of Brazilian women.
There is a large contingency of foreigners who married a Brazilian, had a kid here, got divorced and stayed here so they could be with their kids. They are generally an unhappy bunch and stick together bitching about women and Brazil and reinforce their negativity. Moral of the story, don't have a kid in Brazil unless you're prepared to fight against the Brazilian justice system which is skewed in favor of Brazilian women.
I really love Belo Horizonte and I want to increase the number of smart gringos living in this city. One service I'm going to offer in the future is a relocation service, where I help foreigners move to BH, find an apartment and get them an English teaching job if that's what they wish. One of the reasons I love Brazil is that you don't need credentials to get a job teaching English, being a native speaker is enough to get you a job almost anywhere. A lot of college graduates who are more qualified than me on paper to teach English are having a hard time finding work in the US. I want to help those people start a new life abroad, where they can make a decent living doing fun and easy work, in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born. I want to help minimize the challenges faced during the transition period of moving to a new country and experiencing a new culture.
What do you guys think, is that a service that would have a lot of success?
Hi Sardino,
I would definitely sign up for your service! I would be happy to pay you for all that kind of thing!
But when I was in BH, I did not meet any North Americans or Asians, even when I stayed at that Sorriso do Logarto hostel. There were some dudes from Scandinavia, but it was pretty much all Brazilians, all the time, at the hostels and hotels, and when out and about in the city (at least from my perspective). I mention this because it seems that BH is not exactly a travel hotspot, but perhaps that could change? And perhaps you could be the one who makes it happen!
Like I said, I would happily be one of your clients, and probably some other Roosh forum readers would, too. But it could be tough to attract the wider audience to BH? I don't really know, but I say give it a shot!
Did you go back to that club, "Swingers," with the hot (but not-so-friendly) girls?
So you are living/working near Savassi? That sure is a nice area, isn't it? How about that area of Lourdes?! Another nice spot, eh?!
I would definitely sign up for your service! I would be happy to pay you for all that kind of thing!
But when I was in BH, I did not meet any North Americans or Asians, even when I stayed at that Sorriso do Logarto hostel. There were some dudes from Scandinavia, but it was pretty much all Brazilians, all the time, at the hostels and hotels, and when out and about in the city (at least from my perspective). I mention this because it seems that BH is not exactly a travel hotspot, but perhaps that could change? And perhaps you could be the one who makes it happen!
Like I said, I would happily be one of your clients, and probably some other Roosh forum readers would, too. But it could be tough to attract the wider audience to BH? I don't really know, but I say give it a shot!
Did you go back to that club, "Swingers," with the hot (but not-so-friendly) girls?
So you are living/working near Savassi? That sure is a nice area, isn't it? How about that area of Lourdes?! Another nice spot, eh?!
Quote: (11-08-2011 05:32 PM)Chaz Wrote:
Hi Sardino,
I would definitely sign up for your service! I would be happy to pay you for all that kind of thing!
But when I was in BH, I did not meet any North Americans or Asians, even when I stayed at that Sorriso do Logarto hostel. There were some dudes from Scandinavia, but it was pretty much all Brazilians, all the time, at the hostels and hotels, and when out and about in the city (at least from my perspective). I mention this because it seems that BH is not exactly a travel hotspot, but perhaps that could change? And perhaps you could be the one who makes it happen!
Like I said, I would happily be one of your clients, and probably some other Roosh forum readers would, too. But it could be tough to attract the wider audience to BH? I don't really know, but I say give it a shot!
Did you go back to that club, "Swingers," with the hot (but not-so-friendly) girls?
So you are living/working near Savassi? That sure is a nice area, isn't it? How about that area of Lourdes?! Another nice spot, eh?!
Hey Chaz,
I don't think much is going to change in BH to make it a tourist destination, however I do think that I can sell this city to people who want to live in Brazil for a few months.
Specifically what I can do is:
Find you work as an English teacher.
Arrange a live in with a Brazilian family. I would recommend doing this instead of taking Portuguese classes, but
If you want a student Visa I can help you do that through the local university, UFMG.
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At this point I'd be willing to do any of these things for free for anybody on this forum who comes down here. I could really use a wingman who isn't married and doesn't hate women.
I stayed at Sorriso do Lagarto for two nights and I was the only gringo there. Its mostly brazilians and argentinians that come here, usually for some conference. Since then I've connected with the gringo community and found that there are quite a few of them in this town. Most tend to keep to themselves though.
Savassi is definitely a nice place to work, its very safe and clean. I don't wander out to Lourdes too much. Or maybe I have, I have a hard time knowing which neighborhood I'm in because its all so close.
Haven't been back to Swingers, probably wont unless one of my English students invites me out. What I've gathered after talking to a lot of people here, is that you under no circumstances go to Swingers alone. That is the kind of place where you go with your friends and you have a good time in your little circle and then mix your group with a group of girls. It reminds me of Bang Iceland.
This is an awesome idea Sardino and if executed properly could be a win win for all parties involved. If I were not so much invested in Asia right now, I'd be on the first plane to BH to join you. But who knows how things turn here I might come for a short stint in the spring. How long do you plan on staying in BH? How are you going to go around the 6 months max stay as a tourist? Are you going to apply for a student visa for 1 year? Keep us updated, I'm highly interested in this project as BH is very very high on my list in Brasil.
When people ask me "How long do you plan on staying in BH/Brazil" I tell them "as long as I can." I don't see myself going anywhere in the near future, I'm fully committed to this project in BH and want to make it successful enough so that I can export it to other cities/countries.
I know a few people who have overstayed their visa and they don't have too many problems, but I'm going to try and get legalized in some way. The problem with the student visa is that classes don't start up again until March. I'm trying to get an answer from these people about whether I can join halfway through the semester. A student visa would give me one year but I don't think I can open a bank account with it. I'm working on becoming a permanent resident in Paraguay, which would allow me to stay in Brazil without limits but I'm not sure if I could open a bank account with it.
If you're happy where you are in Asia then I would recommend not coming to BH, because once you've seen what its like here you wont want to go back.
I know a few people who have overstayed their visa and they don't have too many problems, but I'm going to try and get legalized in some way. The problem with the student visa is that classes don't start up again until March. I'm trying to get an answer from these people about whether I can join halfway through the semester. A student visa would give me one year but I don't think I can open a bank account with it. I'm working on becoming a permanent resident in Paraguay, which would allow me to stay in Brazil without limits but I'm not sure if I could open a bank account with it.
If you're happy where you are in Asia then I would recommend not coming to BH, because once you've seen what its like here you wont want to go back.
Hoping to go to Brazil this winter.
Checked out Belo Horizonte on http://www.expatistan.com. Cost of accommodation is 266% higher than where I am currently living! Eek, I would like to find a cheaper city by the sea
Checked out Belo Horizonte on http://www.expatistan.com. Cost of accommodation is 266% higher than where I am currently living! Eek, I would like to find a cheaper city by the sea
Quote: (11-08-2011 06:30 PM)Sardino Wrote:
When people ask me "How long do you plan on staying in BH/Brazil" I tell them "as long as I can." I don't see myself going anywhere in the near future, I'm fully committed to this project in BH and want to make it successful enough so that I can export it to other cities/countries.
I know a few people who have overstayed their visa and they don't have too many problems, but I'm going to try and get legalized in some way. The problem with the student visa is that classes don't start up again until March. I'm trying to get an answer from these people about whether I can join halfway through the semester. A student visa would give me one year but I don't think I can open a bank account with it. I'm working on becoming a permanent resident in Paraguay, which would allow me to stay in Brazil without limits but I'm not sure if I could open a bank account with it.
If you're happy where you are in Asia then I would recommend not coming to BH, because once you've seen what its like here you wont want to go back.
Yes Sardino, I saw alot of potential in Belo Horizonte but didnt research the teaching english opprortunities, so its nice to know there are plenty. In the Northeast of Brazil, for example, it seemed like there wasn't that much demand for native english teachers and the pay was nothing like you described in BH.
Nevertheless, BH is a city that requires a long term commitment. That is why it is difficult to attract tourists and foreigners there. It's a shame because with the quality of life and women, nice weather, relative closeness to Rio (5 hours by bus), food,etc it has as much potential as a city like Medellin, Colombia ever had. Hopefully, with the World Cup, Olympics and guys like you and me promoting the city that will start to change.
Quote: (11-08-2011 07:33 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (11-08-2011 06:30 PM)Sardino Wrote:
When people ask me "How long do you plan on staying in BH/Brazil" I tell them "as long as I can." I don't see myself going anywhere in the near future, I'm fully committed to this project in BH and want to make it successful enough so that I can export it to other cities/countries.
I know a few people who have overstayed their visa and they don't have too many problems, but I'm going to try and get legalized in some way. The problem with the student visa is that classes don't start up again until March. I'm trying to get an answer from these people about whether I can join halfway through the semester. A student visa would give me one year but I don't think I can open a bank account with it. I'm working on becoming a permanent resident in Paraguay, which would allow me to stay in Brazil without limits but I'm not sure if I could open a bank account with it.
If you're happy where you are in Asia then I would recommend not coming to BH, because once you've seen what its like here you wont want to go back.
Yes Sardino, I saw alot of potential in Belo Horizonte but didnt research the teaching english opprortunities, so its nice to know there are plenty. In the Northeast of Brazil, for example, it seemed like there wasn't that much demand for native english teachers and the pay was nothing like you described in BH.
Nevertheless, BH is a city that requires a long term commitment. That is why it is difficult to attract tourists and foreigners there. It's a shame because with the quality of life and women, nice weather, relative closeness to Rio (5 hours by bus), food,etc it has as much potential as a city like Medellin, Colombia ever had. Hopefully, with the World Cup, Olympics and guys like you and me promoting the city that will start to change.
Really considering going here after Colombia!
5 hours from Rio is awesome!
Quote: (11-08-2011 04:13 PM)Sardino Wrote:
It's been a while since I last checked in here. I just read over this thread and now I'm laughing at my younger self for wanting to come here and be an extra.
English teaching is where its at. There is HUGE demand for native English teachers here and not enough of them to go around. All of the teachers I've met here have full schedules teaching, with the friends and relatives of their students lining up to be able to take classes with them. Its great for me as I've managed to get a few students through the gringo network.
I still haven't gotten my own place yet because in the last two weeks I've joined up with two other English teachers and we are looking for a house together that we can build into an English school.
I've taken a job at one institute to have some structure in my life, and to get in the right rhythm while I'm building up my army of private students. They pay R$31 per hour, and the market rate for private teaching seems to be around R$50 per hour. All of the students I have are pretty close together so I don't have to walk more than 20 minutes to get to them. I use the time during classes to work on my project which I will talk about later. I'm still experimenting to find a good cafe with wifi. The problem with the girls here isn't their attractiveness, because the quality here is unbelievable. The problem I'm having is finding girls that I can vibe with. Most of the people I meet in Savassi are either stuck up patricinhas or they are 40 year old MILF's who have no interest in me.
My plan for the future goes something like this:
1. Work at English institute. Find private students on the side. Work on brazil travel/english learning website.
2. Stop working at institute, only have private students.
3. Start a school, hire other teachers, teach only students that I want to teach. Focus most of my energy on creating value for expats and toursts coming to Brazil as well as Brazilians learning English.
4. Website is so successful that I have the freedom to spend all of my time traveling and writing about Brazil.
One thing I've been thinking about after the recent Bang Iceland controversy is how my involvement on this forum can affect my future business. If I link to posts on my blog from here how many people realistically would see that? I can't imagine it being very many, but I am concerned about being labeled a sex tourist.
Other observations:
A gringo I know here married a Brazilian girl. They lived abroad for a few years. After she got married she gained 23 pounds. Poor guy.
I've met two American women here. One is an English teacher and she bitches all the time. The other one is incredibly hard to talk to because she always gives opinions about the stupidest shit, like she gave me a 4 minute lecture on her smoking history, including details that no male would have thought to give. I was smiling on the inside while I was listening to her because she validated everything I've read on this forum about American women and highlights the superiority of Brazilian women.
There is a large contingency of foreigners who married a Brazilian, had a kid here, got divorced and stayed here so they could be with their kids. They are generally an unhappy bunch and stick together bitching about women and Brazil and reinforce their negativity. Moral of the story, don't have a kid in Brazil unless you're prepared to fight against the Brazilian justice system which is skewed in favor of Brazilian women.
I really love Belo Horizonte and I want to increase the number of smart gringos living in this city. One service I'm going to offer in the future is a relocation service, where I help foreigners move to BH, find an apartment and get them an English teaching job if that's what they wish. One of the reasons I love Brazil is that you don't need credentials to get a job teaching English, being a native speaker is enough to get you a job almost anywhere. A lot of college graduates who are more qualified than me on paper to teach English are having a hard time finding work in the US. I want to help those people start a new life abroad, where they can make a decent living doing fun and easy work, in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born. I want to help minimize the challenges faced during the transition period of moving to a new country and experiencing a new culture.
What do you guys think, is that a service that would have a lot of success?
"in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born."
I think that's a bit of an overegged statement considering you saying you ain't getting any at the moment!!
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BH's 3 main negatives:
1. The women in general are "conservative" and most have never met a foreigner. Most require 2 or 3 dates minimum before the bang even if you speak portuguese well.
2. Lack of suitable accomodations for foreigners(i.e furnished apartments) which would help to accelerate the bang.
3. Social circle being imperative in order to land the 8+ hotties.
NOTE: All these 3 negatives can be overcome if you stay more than 6 months.
BH is one of those rare cities where having more tourists and foreigners would actually be beneficial for pick up.
1. The women in general are "conservative" and most have never met a foreigner. Most require 2 or 3 dates minimum before the bang even if you speak portuguese well.
2. Lack of suitable accomodations for foreigners(i.e furnished apartments) which would help to accelerate the bang.
3. Social circle being imperative in order to land the 8+ hotties.
NOTE: All these 3 negatives can be overcome if you stay more than 6 months.
BH is one of those rare cities where having more tourists and foreigners would actually be beneficial for pick up.
Quote: (11-08-2011 07:33 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Yes Sardino, I saw alot of potential in Belo Horizonte but didnt research the teaching english opprortunities, so its nice to know there are plenty. In the Northeast of Brazil, for example, it seemed like there wasn't that much demand for native english teachers and the pay was nothing like you described in BH.
Nevertheless, BH is a city that requires a long term commitment. That is why it is difficult to attract tourists and foreigners there. It's a shame because with the quality of life and women, nice weather, relative closeness to Rio (5 hours by bus), food,etc it has as much potential as a city like Medellin, Colombia ever had. Hopefully, with the World Cup, Olympics and guys like you and me promoting the city that will start to change.
Walking around the centro in BH definitely reminds me of the centro in Medellin, but Savassi is a lot nicer than Parque Lleras. The two cities do have a lot in common, but I feel like Belo Horizonte has a lot more upside potential because of the factors that you mentioned.
Quote: (11-08-2011 09:54 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:
"in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born."
I think that's a bit of an overegged statement considering you saying you ain't getting any at the moment!!
Maybe a little exaggerated, but I'm not getting any because of other factors, like not matching my look to the venue or doing enough approaches. I made out with a girl at a bar this last weekend and I'll probably seal the deal later this week.
If I don't feel like cooking all I have to do is walk around, ask someone for directions to a nice restaurant, engage them in small talk, let them know I'm a gringo and there's a good chance they'll invite me for dinner. I did this wanting to find an actual restaurant, and the man basically forced me to eat dinner with his family. Imagine walking around Atlanta, speaking with a Boston accent and this happening.
Quote: (11-08-2011 10:24 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
BH's 3 main negatives:
1. The women in general are "conservative" and most have never met a foreigner. Most require 2 or 3 dates minimum before the bang even if you speak portuguese well.
2. Lack of suitable accomodations for foreigners(i.e furnished apartments) which would help to accelerate the bang.
3. Social circle being imperative in order to land the 8+ hotties.
NOTE: All these 3 negatives can be overcome if you stay more than 6 months.
BH is one of those rare cities where having more tourists and foreigners would actually be beneficial for pick up.
1. This is pretty true. My blonde haired blue eyed Australian mate reports that this is mostly the case in his experience, with the exception of black girls who put out faster and tend to be freakier in bed.
2. Indeed an issue. I don't have the capital to do something like this right now, but I'm going to suggest the idea to everyone I know who does.
3. Some of the guys I teach English to are pretty high up on the food chain, I think they would be a good portal into this world.
I wouldn't mind more foreigners here. As much as I love Brazilians, its good to have people around who think on the same level and are willing to seize the opportunities that Belo Horizonte presents. Most Brazilians can't understand why I'm here because they don't see any opportunity here. The gringos here all realize that the opportunities in lifestyle, women and business are great and that we don't have much competition in pursuing them.
Quote: (11-09-2011 09:40 AM)Sardino Wrote:
Quote: (11-08-2011 07:33 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Yes Sardino, I saw alot of potential in Belo Horizonte but didnt research the teaching english opprortunities, so its nice to know there are plenty. In the Northeast of Brazil, for example, it seemed like there wasn't that much demand for native english teachers and the pay was nothing like you described in BH.
Nevertheless, BH is a city that requires a long term commitment. That is why it is difficult to attract tourists and foreigners there. It's a shame because with the quality of life and women, nice weather, relative closeness to Rio (5 hours by bus), food,etc it has as much potential as a city like Medellin, Colombia ever had. Hopefully, with the World Cup, Olympics and guys like you and me promoting the city that will start to change.
Walking around the centro in BH definitely reminds me of the centro in Medellin, but Savassi is a lot nicer than Parque Lleras. The two cities do have a lot in common, but I feel like Belo Horizonte has a lot more upside potential because of the factors that you mentioned.
Quote: (11-08-2011 09:54 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:
"in a city that is full of people who treat you like a celebrity because of where you were born."
I think that's a bit of an overegged statement considering you saying you ain't getting any at the moment!!
Maybe a little exaggerated, but I'm not getting any because of other factors, like not matching my look to the venue or doing enough approaches. I made out with a girl at a bar this last weekend and I'll probably seal the deal later this week.
If I don't feel like cooking all I have to do is walk around, ask someone for directions to a nice restaurant, engage them in small talk, let them know I'm a gringo and there's a good chance they'll invite me for dinner. I did this wanting to find an actual restaurant, and the man basically forced me to eat dinner with his family. Imagine walking around Atlanta, speaking with a Boston accent and this happening.
Quote: (11-08-2011 10:24 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
BH's 3 main negatives:
1. The women in general are "conservative" and most have never met a foreigner. Most require 2 or 3 dates minimum before the bang even if you speak portuguese well.
2. Lack of suitable accomodations for foreigners(i.e furnished apartments) which would help to accelerate the bang.
3. Social circle being imperative in order to land the 8+ hotties.
NOTE: All these 3 negatives can be overcome if you stay more than 6 months.
BH is one of those rare cities where having more tourists and foreigners would actually be beneficial for pick up.
1. This is pretty true. My blonde haired blue eyed Australian mate reports that this is mostly the case in his experience, with the exception of black girls who put out faster and tend to be freakier in bed.
2. Indeed an issue. I don't have the capital to do something like this right now, but I'm going to suggest the idea to everyone I know who does.
3. Some of the guys I teach English to are pretty high up on the food chain, I think they would be a good portal into this world.
I wouldn't mind more foreigners here. As much as I love Brazilians, its good to have people around who think on the same level and are willing to seize the opportunities that Belo Horizonte presents. Most Brazilians can't understand why I'm here because they don't see any opportunity here. The gringos here all realize that the opportunities in lifestyle, women and business are great and that we don't have much competition in pursuing them.
Hope you score soon with a Brasiliera Marvalossha!
Do you speak Portuguese?Must be difficult if you don't..and Good if you do!
Brazilian girls are great,in my experience...but the ones I've hooked up with,even my ex ,I have met here in London...far away from their social circle pressure and expectations.
All 3 were top notch in looks and personality,marriage material actually .I could imagine them bringing up my kids...that's how I usually decide if any girl is long term.
Unfortunately,logisitics gets in the way too...eventually they go back....and as nice as Brazil can be I couldn't be there all year round every year. 3-4 months there a year during our winter would be good.
But without Bankroll this is hard to pull off!
Keep us updated on your progress...any pics of random girls on the dtreet would be good! Just say you're a photographer scouting for a magazine!!
An article (translated) on the Homicide rate in Brazil and various other S.American countries.
Something long termers should consider ,if just to know.
Statistically it is pretty astounding! :
Brazil has the third highest murder rate in South America, after Venezuela and Colombia, according to a report by the UN Agency for Drugs and Crime released on Thursday.
The agency says there were 43,909 murders in Brazil in 2009 (most recent year for which statistics), so that the country has a rate of 22.7 homicides per 100 000 inhabitants.
In South America, the index is only inferior to that of Venezuela (49 per 100 000) and Colombia (33.4). Brazil is the ranking followed by Guyana (18.4), Ecuador (18.2) and Guyana (14.6). The countries with the lowest homicide rates in the region are Chile (3.7), Peru (5.2), Argentina (5.7) and Uruguay (6.1).
The report also reveals that, contrary to the majority of countries in Asia, Europe and North America, which since 1995 have registered a reduction in homicide rates, Central America and the Caribbean have seen an increase in these indices and is now approaching a scenario of "crisis."
Click Read more: UN sees disparity in homicide rates in São Paulo and Rio
In the last five years, the agency said, homicide rates increased in five of eight Central American countries, and in some nations they have more than doubled.
The report attributes the rise to fluctuations in cocaine trafficking in the region and competition between rival groups of drug traffickers, particularly when there is a drop in the flow of drugs.
"To impose his authority, to mark territory or to challenge authorities, organized criminal groups also use indiscriminate lethal violence can not be attributed directly to drug trafficking, but resulted in recent years, the murder of numerous state representatives, elected officials and agents security, as well as members of the general public, "the agency said.
Armed conflict
The highest homicide rates in Central America and the Caribbean were reported in Honduras (82.1), El Salvador (66), Jamaica (52.1) and Belize (41.7).
Mexico, the scene of numerous drug-related murders in recent years, boasting well below the rate of those neighbors, from 18.1 deaths per 100 000 inhabitants. This is because, although the homicide rates are particularly high in the north, in other regions they are much lower.
The homicide rates in Central America are much higher than those of countries experiencing or have experienced armed conflicts or natural disasters recently, such as Haiti (6.9), Iraq (2) and Afghanistan (2.4).
The study states, however, that the lack of historical data on homicides in Afghanistan and Iraq makes it impossible to find out if there is a tendency of increase or decrease in rates in these countries.
Already the south and west of Europe concentrate some of the lowest homicide rates in the world, especially in Monaco (0 100 000 deaths), Austria (0.5) and Slovenia (0.6).
Something long termers should consider ,if just to know.
Statistically it is pretty astounding! :
Brazil has the third highest murder rate in South America, after Venezuela and Colombia, according to a report by the UN Agency for Drugs and Crime released on Thursday.
The agency says there were 43,909 murders in Brazil in 2009 (most recent year for which statistics), so that the country has a rate of 22.7 homicides per 100 000 inhabitants.
In South America, the index is only inferior to that of Venezuela (49 per 100 000) and Colombia (33.4). Brazil is the ranking followed by Guyana (18.4), Ecuador (18.2) and Guyana (14.6). The countries with the lowest homicide rates in the region are Chile (3.7), Peru (5.2), Argentina (5.7) and Uruguay (6.1).
The report also reveals that, contrary to the majority of countries in Asia, Europe and North America, which since 1995 have registered a reduction in homicide rates, Central America and the Caribbean have seen an increase in these indices and is now approaching a scenario of "crisis."
Click Read more: UN sees disparity in homicide rates in São Paulo and Rio
In the last five years, the agency said, homicide rates increased in five of eight Central American countries, and in some nations they have more than doubled.
The report attributes the rise to fluctuations in cocaine trafficking in the region and competition between rival groups of drug traffickers, particularly when there is a drop in the flow of drugs.
"To impose his authority, to mark territory or to challenge authorities, organized criminal groups also use indiscriminate lethal violence can not be attributed directly to drug trafficking, but resulted in recent years, the murder of numerous state representatives, elected officials and agents security, as well as members of the general public, "the agency said.
Armed conflict
The highest homicide rates in Central America and the Caribbean were reported in Honduras (82.1), El Salvador (66), Jamaica (52.1) and Belize (41.7).
Mexico, the scene of numerous drug-related murders in recent years, boasting well below the rate of those neighbors, from 18.1 deaths per 100 000 inhabitants. This is because, although the homicide rates are particularly high in the north, in other regions they are much lower.
The homicide rates in Central America are much higher than those of countries experiencing or have experienced armed conflicts or natural disasters recently, such as Haiti (6.9), Iraq (2) and Afghanistan (2.4).
The study states, however, that the lack of historical data on homicides in Afghanistan and Iraq makes it impossible to find out if there is a tendency of increase or decrease in rates in these countries.
Already the south and west of Europe concentrate some of the lowest homicide rates in the world, especially in Monaco (0 100 000 deaths), Austria (0.5) and Slovenia (0.6).
Sardino, your Visa is obviously the cornerstone of your business plans and longer stay in BH. You may already be aware of what I'm going to point out here but, who knows, perhaps the insights are helpful:
Once you make local friends, especially those who are well-connected, don't be shy to point out the issue with your Visa (Next to declaring you love their city, which will deeply impress them. Create that emotional connection which will almost make them feel obliged to solve your problem. Once you have a hunch you found a way, keep insisting, very gently, over time so as not not risk the lead getting cold.)
IMO your two main helping hands here are a good lawyer (can guide you through all the steps, finds gaps in the law, gives advice to other people willing to help you) and a person who owns a company (can make a bogus contract to hire you or to get your consultancy, for whatever reasons and activities the lawyer knows will be approved). Note: a student Visa will not allow you to work legally and open a simple LTDA company, I'd use this option only if everything else fails. Someone in the Policia Federal or local politics could also be immensely helpful. If you have quality local back-up it's really doable (plus it will help you down the road with your business plans). BH is a society of a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend networks so I'd suggest you make a conscious effort to spread the word. Needless to say, try to focus on, at least, the high-middle-class folks.
Ideally, you'll find a very cute and horny lawyer who is the daughter of some politician and landowner whom you could bang and give English classes in exchange for getting your Visa and your dick fixed, but, of course, other solid social contexts can be created too.
Just don't overstay your Visa, make a quick trip anywhere abroad if necessary and then get back. If you broke the rules this can jeopardize and create obstacles for your plans to stay long term and open your business, I'm not kidding.
P.S. Pilgrim37: With all due respect, I suggest you stay home. There is a dangerous world out there!
Once you make local friends, especially those who are well-connected, don't be shy to point out the issue with your Visa (Next to declaring you love their city, which will deeply impress them. Create that emotional connection which will almost make them feel obliged to solve your problem. Once you have a hunch you found a way, keep insisting, very gently, over time so as not not risk the lead getting cold.)
IMO your two main helping hands here are a good lawyer (can guide you through all the steps, finds gaps in the law, gives advice to other people willing to help you) and a person who owns a company (can make a bogus contract to hire you or to get your consultancy, for whatever reasons and activities the lawyer knows will be approved). Note: a student Visa will not allow you to work legally and open a simple LTDA company, I'd use this option only if everything else fails. Someone in the Policia Federal or local politics could also be immensely helpful. If you have quality local back-up it's really doable (plus it will help you down the road with your business plans). BH is a society of a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend networks so I'd suggest you make a conscious effort to spread the word. Needless to say, try to focus on, at least, the high-middle-class folks.
Ideally, you'll find a very cute and horny lawyer who is the daughter of some politician and landowner whom you could bang and give English classes in exchange for getting your Visa and your dick fixed, but, of course, other solid social contexts can be created too.
Just don't overstay your Visa, make a quick trip anywhere abroad if necessary and then get back. If you broke the rules this can jeopardize and create obstacles for your plans to stay long term and open your business, I'm not kidding.
P.S. Pilgrim37: With all due respect, I suggest you stay home. There is a dangerous world out there!
Quote: (11-16-2011 07:26 AM)Locksmith Wrote:
Sardino, your Visa is obviously the cornerstone of your business plans and longer stay in BH. You may already be aware of what I'm going to point out here but, who knows, perhaps the insights are helpful:
Once you make local friends, especially those who are well-connected, don't be shy to point out the issue with your Visa (Next to declaring you love their city, which will deeply impress them. Create that emotional connection which will almost make them feel obliged to solve your problem. Once you have a hunch you found a way, keep insisting, very gently, over time so as not not risk the lead getting cold.)
IMO your two main helping hands here are a good lawyer (can guide you through all the steps, finds gaps in the law, gives advice to other people willing to help you) and a person who owns a company (can make a bogus contract to hire you or to get your consultancy, for whatever reasons and activities the lawyer knows will be approved). Note: a student Visa will not allow you to work legally and open a simple LTDA company, I'd use this option only if everything else fails. Someone in the Policia Federal or local politics could also be immensely helpful. If you have quality local back-up it's really doable (plus it will help you down the road with your business plans). BH is a society of a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend networks so I'd suggest you make a conscious effort to spread the word. Needless to say, try to focus on, at least, the high-middle-class folks.
Ideally, you'll find a very cute and horny lawyer who is the daughter of some politician and landowner whom you could bang and give English classes in exchange for getting your Visa and your dick fixed, but, of course, other solid social contexts can be created too.
Just don't overstay your Visa, make a quick trip anywhere abroad if necessary and then get back. If you broke the rules this can jeopardize and create obstacles for your plans to stay long term and open your business, I'm not kidding.
P.S. Pilgrim37: With all due respect, I suggest you stay home. There is a dangerous world out there!
Thanks ,but with all due respect I'll do whatever I please,including visiting Brazil.
Hi bros. I've recently found out about ROOSH, which was lots of fun to read, and now this forum.
I'm brazilian and I know pretty much every spot in the country, so feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. I live close to BH and I'm in the city on weekends, so I guess we can even catch up sometime [Sardino].
I see a good vibe in the forum, may some of you guys establish here for work against all ods [lack of businessmanship (does this word exist?) and the fuckin' 40% tax burden], cos skilled men are much needed.
As for girls, go for it - young male body count here is so high that we have a big surplus LOL
Best regards.
I'm brazilian and I know pretty much every spot in the country, so feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. I live close to BH and I'm in the city on weekends, so I guess we can even catch up sometime [Sardino].
I see a good vibe in the forum, may some of you guys establish here for work against all ods [lack of businessmanship (does this word exist?) and the fuckin' 40% tax burden], cos skilled men are much needed.
As for girls, go for it - young male body count here is so high that we have a big surplus LOL
Best regards.
Quote: (11-19-2011 04:40 PM)DiogoFC Wrote:
Hi bros. I've recently found out about ROOSH, which was lots of fun to read, and now this forum.
I'm brazilian and I know pretty much every spot in the country, so feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. I live close to BH and I'm in the city on weekends, so I guess we can even catch up sometime [Sardino].
I see a good vibe in the forum, may some of you guys establish here for work against all ods [lack of businessmanship (does this word exist?) and the fuckin' 40% tax burden], cos skilled men are much needed.
As for girls, go for it - young male body count here is so high that we have a big surplus LOL
Best regards.
Hey Diogo welcome to the forum. As someone who has traveled to various cities in Brazil and hopes to live there in the future, I'm curious to know what your preferred city is with regards to the quality and quantity of girls(ease of pulling and banging). I've lived in Belo Horizonte, Joao Pessoa, Rio, Brasilia, Sao Paolo, Recife and so far my 2 favourites are BH and Joao Pessoa. BH more for the quality and Joao Pessoa for quantity of girls thoguh the quality of living overall is very good in both.
Next year I'm thinking of trying Goiania, Natal and Porto Alegre so any input would be greatly appreciated.
Quote: (10-02-2011 01:59 PM)Sardino Wrote:
I've been in Sao Paulo for about a week now. I've been staying in hostels while I've been looking for an apartment and I'm enjoying meeting Brazilians from other places. People had said on the forum before that Paulistas are colder than other Brazilians, but I didn't realize how true that is until I got here. I'm also disappointed by how many girls here have short hair and by the number of fat girls I see walking around.
In other news, it was incredibly easy to get an English teaching job here since I'm a native speaker. There is such a huge demand for native speakers that you can get a job whether you're qualified or not. The job pays 34 reals an hour, and I have enough hours that I'll be able to live here reasonably well. There is also the possibility of a work visa, but I would have to show that I taught outside of Brazil for at least 6 months. I dont think it would be too hard to make such a document appear.
34 BRL an hour that's £12 so around $16...that's pretty good .
I thought they paid much worse than that there!
Can anyone recommend a city in Brazil for me to go for a few weeks this winter.
I work online so I can work from anywhere, I don't need to be in one of the expensive cities.
Would like somewhere near the sea, low crime rate, low cost of living, and lots of Brazilian ass
I work online so I can work from anywhere, I don't need to be in one of the expensive cities.
Would like somewhere near the sea, low crime rate, low cost of living, and lots of Brazilian ass
Quote: (11-19-2011 06:25 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:
Can anyone recommend a city in Brazil for me to go for a few weeks this winter.
I work online so I can work from anywhere, I don't need to be in one of the expensive cities.
Would like somewhere near the sea, low crime rate, low cost of living, and lots of Brazilian ass
Ever heard of Florianópolis? One of my favourite places in Brazil, and it seems to match all of you criterea. Read a bit about it, there is a thread here on it as well.
Quote: (11-18-2011 08:48 PM)Dash Global Wrote:
Quote: (11-18-2011 06:25 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:
Yeah the middle class Brazilians from Rio and elsewhere in Brazil thought I was absolutely crazy to visit slums even on an organised tour let alone go their partying with locals. I tried to explain it was safe but they are so used to the horror stories they were convinced you could easily be shot dead just for not being a resident.
I have two friends (chicks) that were recently in Rio. One is from Rio and the other is from Peru. I tried to get the grl from Peru to go to a funk party(she was down) but the other girl (brazilian) told her how dangerous and crazy the idea was and convinced her not to go even after telling her how common it was and showing her the vids / sites to promote it.
Im amazed at how all middle - upper class are so paranoid of favelas and think its like a death sentence to enter one.
Quote: (11-19-2011 06:25 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:
Can anyone recommend a city in Brazil for me to go for a few weeks this winter.
I work online so I can work from anywhere, I don't need to be in one of the expensive cities.
Would like somewhere near the sea, low crime rate, low cost of living, and lots of Brazilian ass
I agree with my friend Amour, Florianopolis is a good pick. But Keep in mind that girls there are more Euro-looking and reserved(but hot!)
check my ol' thread about Brazil: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5032.html
Chicks need to be on rotation like a Netflix queue
Quote: (11-16-2011 07:26 AM)Locksmith Wrote:
Sardino, your Visa is obviously the cornerstone of your business plans and longer stay in BH. You may already be aware of what I'm going to point out here but, who knows, perhaps the insights are helpful:
Once you make local friends, especially those who are well-connected, don't be shy to point out the issue with your Visa (Next to declaring you love their city, which will deeply impress them. Create that emotional connection which will almost make them feel obliged to solve your problem. Once you have a hunch you found a way, keep insisting, very gently, over time so as not not risk the lead getting cold.)
IMO your two main helping hands here are a good lawyer (can guide you through all the steps, finds gaps in the law, gives advice to other people willing to help you) and a person who owns a company (can make a bogus contract to hire you or to get your consultancy, for whatever reasons and activities the lawyer knows will be approved). Note: a student Visa will not allow you to work legally and open a simple LTDA company, I'd use this option only if everything else fails. Someone in the Policia Federal or local politics could also be immensely helpful. If you have quality local back-up it's really doable (plus it will help you down the road with your business plans). BH is a society of a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend networks so I'd suggest you make a conscious effort to spread the word. Needless to say, try to focus on, at least, the high-middle-class folks.
Ideally, you'll find a very cute and horny lawyer who is the daughter of some politician and landowner whom you could bang and give English classes in exchange for getting your Visa and your dick fixed, but, of course, other solid social contexts can be created too.
Just don't overstay your Visa, make a quick trip anywhere abroad if necessary and then get back. If you broke the rules this can jeopardize and create obstacles for your plans to stay long term and open your business, I'm not kidding.
P.S. Pilgrim37: With all due respect, I suggest you stay home. There is a dangerous world out there!
This Visa talk is quite interesting.
As a Canadian, I advised the Brazilian consulate I was going to Brazil for a conference and got a work visa for 5 years! Just putting it out there because I've noticed a lot of Canaidians on this site.
And, of course, we all want to live in Brasil
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This Visa talk is quite interesting.
As a Canadian, I advised the Brazilian consulate I was going to Brazil for a conference and got a work visa for 5 years! Just putting it out there because I've noticed a lot of Canaidians on this site.
And, of course, we all want to live in Brasil
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Wow, congratulations for that! Pretty amazing.
From what I see, Canadians are doing a great job at promoting their country and companies in Brazil. They have some skilled local people working at the consulate here, their diplomats, their companies really seem to team up to "market Canada". I can only respect the quality of their work in promoting their interests. Just yesterday I read about this mining company, I believe it's Kinross, and they have a mega gold project somewhere in the state of Goiás. I don't know if I can trust the press in this case, but the article said that with the new technology being currently applied Brazil could become the biggest gold producer in a matter of a few years. This manager of Kinross was quoted saying they now can grind a ton of rock in order to extract 0,4 gram of gold (and it is implied here they can still make profit)...
This Visa talk is quite interesting.
As a Canadian, I advised the Brazilian consulate I was going to Brazil for a conference and got a work visa for 5 years! Just putting it out there because I've noticed a lot of Canaidians on this site.
And, of course, we all want to live in Brasil
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Wow, congratulations for that! Pretty amazing.
From what I see, Canadians are doing a great job at promoting their country and companies in Brazil. They have some skilled local people working at the consulate here, their diplomats, their companies really seem to team up to "market Canada". I can only respect the quality of their work in promoting their interests. Just yesterday I read about this mining company, I believe it's Kinross, and they have a mega gold project somewhere in the state of Goiás. I don't know if I can trust the press in this case, but the article said that with the new technology being currently applied Brazil could become the biggest gold producer in a matter of a few years. This manager of Kinross was quoted saying they now can grind a ton of rock in order to extract 0,4 gram of gold (and it is implied here they can still make profit)...
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Hi, Bro, as you lived here it is easier to answer you comparing the cities. Goiânia is much like BH and Natal is much like João Pessoa. In both cases there's a substantial upgrade in quality regarding the girls, so you're gonna be fine. Even the cities themselves are cleaner and safer, but probably with less access to services [restaurants, variety of night options, malls, etc] if you're to stay for long. Natal will also have you rent a car cos things [including beaches] are always far from where you are and you don't want to spend that much on cabs, but pay it, cos it's certainly worthwhile.
Anyway, it'll be nothing new to you, while Porto Alegre will be a totally different experience, almost knowing another country, and the girls are the prettiest in any state capital in Brazil, for sure [I think no one in the forum would deny it]. It would mean climbing yet another level in quality compared to Goiânia [quantity may decrease a little].
Of course it's no wonderland, so maybe it'll take a harder game to catch those hotties; you'll have to learn new rules. But on the bright side there's plenty of English speakers, it's easy to interact with the guys and surely low levels of cockblock .
As for my pick, I don't wanna confuse you but definetely among capitals it would be Curitiba. It's known in the country as the coldest reception foreigners receive [which is true], but it's got the best combo for a single middle class guy. The quality of life is great, prices are average, you can do all your shit in the central area with no need for a car, including shopping, going out at night, etc [unique in Brazil], and unlike most of the big ones like Rio, SP, BH, Brasilia, the hot girls are not limitted to the high-end or alternative-hipster market.
Now, things would certainly look different for a gringo who can not hunt speaking Portuguese, but even considering this handicap it's my bet for the best results in banging good quality.
I'd also add that I found this thread by MrGM great for a common sense view; it holds together many conflicting opinions without saying anything absurd.
Hope it helps
Hi, Bro, as you lived here it is easier to answer you comparing the cities. Goiânia is much like BH and Natal is much like João Pessoa. In both cases there's a substantial upgrade in quality regarding the girls, so you're gonna be fine. Even the cities themselves are cleaner and safer, but probably with less access to services [restaurants, variety of night options, malls, etc] if you're to stay for long. Natal will also have you rent a car cos things [including beaches] are always far from where you are and you don't want to spend that much on cabs, but pay it, cos it's certainly worthwhile.
Anyway, it'll be nothing new to you, while Porto Alegre will be a totally different experience, almost knowing another country, and the girls are the prettiest in any state capital in Brazil, for sure [I think no one in the forum would deny it]. It would mean climbing yet another level in quality compared to Goiânia [quantity may decrease a little].
Of course it's no wonderland, so maybe it'll take a harder game to catch those hotties; you'll have to learn new rules. But on the bright side there's plenty of English speakers, it's easy to interact with the guys and surely low levels of cockblock .
As for my pick, I don't wanna confuse you but definetely among capitals it would be Curitiba. It's known in the country as the coldest reception foreigners receive [which is true], but it's got the best combo for a single middle class guy. The quality of life is great, prices are average, you can do all your shit in the central area with no need for a car, including shopping, going out at night, etc [unique in Brazil], and unlike most of the big ones like Rio, SP, BH, Brasilia, the hot girls are not limitted to the high-end or alternative-hipster market.
Now, things would certainly look different for a gringo who can not hunt speaking Portuguese, but even considering this handicap it's my bet for the best results in banging good quality.
I'd also add that I found this thread by MrGM great for a common sense view; it holds together many conflicting opinions without saying anything absurd.
Hope it helps
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