Quote: (02-01-2017 12:40 PM)Iso Wrote:
Quote: (02-01-2017 11:53 AM)XXL Wrote:
Sure, that's been my bread and butter since day one. What's your specific problem(s)? We can handle this shit in just one thread. Shoot!
Whats the first 5 minutes of the approach like? The opener?
How are you choosing/isolating your eventual target.
Disclaimer: this is how I do it.
The first minutes of the approach
To me the first impression thing is bullshit. To me first few minutes do not count at all. There's nothing I can say or do to make any girl into me in first 1-15 minutes. I might hook a group but it's not like they like ME. They just like what I come with, whether it's a engaging question, comment, challenge or whatever.
First few minutes are all about breaking the ice and that's it. I don't want to attract anybody, or seduce. I can't because every stranger I talk to for 2 minutes is closed towards me. They might interested, intrigued, engaged, or feel to prove something to me but still, that's just knee jerk reaction to what I come with at them. It's not their affection towards me.
So first minutes might as well be stiff, weird and uncomfortable. That's fine. That's perfectly normal human reaction. The goal of the approach is to break the ice and stay there, without saying anything lame or idiotic.
Technically speaking, you might ask question or throw a comment and address whole group. Not just the girl you're interested in. Whole group. Engage them all with your bullshit.
Conversations flows cause you keep it fresh and steer it however you want. You change topics, fuck around with girls, challenge them, play them against each other, typical gamey gamey shit.
That's how you can express your intent and sexual side, just by touching on certain topics, without hitting on any girl in the group. You don't have to be romantically interested in a girl to do it. The effect is the same.
Once they are warmed up to you [literally they are heated up inside], ONLY THEN your game can work. Cause now they've lowered their defenses and opened themselves towards you. Before that waypoint any gaming is just useless, it doesn't reach them. It can only spike their buying temperature hard and quick, ok it can, but that's fake energy, it falls down quickly and cannot be maintained. You boil frog too fast and poof! she's gone.
You wanna work like a virus, from within, activate when you're IN, not when you're coming at them.
That's how first few minutes look when I do.
4+ girls in library.. hey I'm looking for this xyz book, do you know where it might be? you kind of look like a bookworm [point at one girl], am i right or she sending me mixed signals? [address the group. they respond conversation starts, you take it from there. key is that you have to talk a lot at the beginning, the more you talk the more content you give them to respond to, don't do that shit where you ask a simple logical question and wait for their response, that's bad move, you go in with almost nothing and demand their attention, fuck yourself. you get out what you put in. so put in at first, invest and reap benefits or your rap later.
the best opener is..
- addressing something about them [the most important topic to them right?]
- literally just going in talking about random thing [a story or whatever related to the situation, something them, place you're in, etc]
- challenging them from the start, playing some game
Choosing/isolating your girl
As you talk shit and they talk back you start screening who's who and what's what. this is actualle the most crucial thing in the whole fucking game and almost nobody talks about.
BREAKING DOWN LOGISTICS ASAP. That's what gets you laid or makes you fail. You can be walking superman but without logistics handled you mighty dick will be watching different dicks in action online.
So as you chat chat chat you innocently try to figure out where they live, who they're with here, what's their plan for now/later/this day/this week, etc, typical boring [but useful] question, just like normal people do when they talk to someone new.
In the meantime you wanna figure out who's free and taken. Not that it's a sink or swim thing but it helps you to pick the right fight and makes you realize what's waiting for you if you choose this or that.
Then it's the time for the decision which girl is the lucky one.
Since you know more or less what's up with her and her friends now you decide how to game. That's the 2nd SUPER FUCKING CRUCIAL thing that nobody talks about. In short...
it's the logistics that determine how you game a girl. If you find out she's a go that day/night and all it takes is to lead her towards your/her place then you can amp it up sexually, get her aroused more, etc, simply because there are no visible obstacles on the highway to the happy end.
Now you have 2 options:
1. Pull her - this is harder cause she's with her company while you want to take her away from them. I happens of course here and there but that's more a matter of a luck rather than actual skill. But still you can...
2. Stay with her till the end - This is better move cause it happens more organically. You just stay with her and her group. You have fun and all and just stick to her until everybody splits. Then you pull. That's how most of my pulls went down. We left all together to go somewhere then people start leaving one by one and you're with her at the end. It's way easier than trying to steal and deal with drama in the meantime, persisting, solving her unfavorable situation, etc.
If she's not available or shit is tough to solve then you go slower not to activate her asd now and buyers remorse when you contact her. so as you're boiling that frog slowly in fact, you talk about what you can do next day/week together and see if she's down. If she is then you set it up then and there when she is free and you are free so that there will be nothing on your way to pull her. At least in theory but still it is much better than taking number and gaming over the phone setting it up over text messages. Lame. So she's willing to meet up with and you orchestrate your masterplan how to meet up again in favorable time and place. Good. Now you take her contact [there's not point to do it earlier].
That's how you know "what to do now". You backwards engineer it. You figure out the situation, then choose what's the best move. And that is why everything that happens before knowing her logistics/availability doesn't mean shit. Without those details you're going blind. Literally.
With group of 5+ it's actually easier to have some private time with your girl cause there are 4+ people there so they can occupy themselves easily. Often times I did this mini isolation where we stood or sat just a bit on the side together while her group hung out together, only coming up to us once in a while. With a group 3+ it's tougher cause there are only 2 people left so once they stop talking they turn to you. The more people there the easier it is to have some privacy.
You can ask me more of course