[Agastya]

(02-05-2017 12:37 PM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

Yes, lot of good points above.. Exposure & Experience CAN give relevant competence. I know of a Nerdy South Indian FOB dude who went from small town boy self image to wanting only blondes, get through a bunch of them to realize he did not like them that much and moving on.

So, another factor that plays in is AFFINITY.. I may find typical small town USA culture a bit boring, but Latin American culture is naturally very interesting to me.. So INTEREST drives one as well.

I know a dude who had a tall blonde on his arm through Uni and another 2 who married them. The dick size IRT wants he can try to call them for a survey

The point about affinity is a good one. Personally, most of the hotter white girls that I've met have fit into subcultures that I personally find unattractive. When I was 17, I hooked up with two hippie white girls, one of whom was pretty hot. I grew to despise this subset of white women for a variety of reasons, one of which was that they'd pretend like they knew more about Hinduism and Indian culture than me. The other was their generally cold, awkward, and braindead nature; despite the fact that one of them was pretty attractive, she was a complete disaster in bed and a foul person in general. I had this experience with a variety of white women; even the ones who were attracted to me tended to express it in the least attractive way possible. It was then that I began to realize that American white women are possibly the most overrated demographic in the world; barring that, I simply just wasn't into them.

I didn't like their sense of humor, their personalities, their taste in music, or anything. I just found their culture completely unappealing. This has even projected itself into my friendships with guys. I get along great with white people from the South and from states outside of California (one of my best buddies is from Nevada), but the rich Southern Californians I met, regardless of gender, simply didn't vibe well with me as a person.

On the other hand, I've had the opposite experience with black girls, especially the bougie upper-middle class ones. I fucked an Ethiopian girl who liked Lauryn Hill, and actually got me into her music. I banged another black girl with whom I just had great sexual chemistry. When black girls express their interest in me, they do it without any bullshit or shit tests. I like their general vibe a lot, and am far more interested in their culture than the culture of basic bitch sorority white girls. So it's no surprise that I do vastly better with one demographic than the other; I never approach SoCal white girls, because I generally hate them, while I feel the opposite about black women.

Now the bigger point I'm making is that there probably are some Indian guys who do vibe with the Delta Gamma white girls, or the cliquey Asians, or the LA Persian Jews, and will do accordingly well with each group. Your own attraction to a girl is actually a pretty good indicator of how you might do with her, if I liked white girls as much as I like black girls I'm pretty sure I'd do well with them.

kartik13, why do you think that having a negative belief about yourself as an Indian guy will get you greater success? A lot of guys period feel like they have to try overly hard in order to circumvent their race, when in reality, a relaxed approach is the way to go. A few girls (and people) might hate you because you're Indian -- they can go fuck themselves. A few girls will actually like you more because of it. And then a vastly larger pool won't really care either way. Actual effort and self improvement is the most important thing. Talk about race all you want, it won't change the fact that most white guys I know are sexless schlubs, and me and my brown friends certainly are not.

[jselysianeagle]

(02-05-2017 05:43 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

American white women are possibly the most overrated demographic in the world

Seriously, /thread.

There are abundantly many beautiful women of all races and ethnicities; it may take more effort to seek them out in the US, but you don't have to focus on just one demographic if for whatever reason they're not working out for you.

Traveling abroad is the best thing to do. Next best would be moving to a diverse city like NYC.

[kartik13]

The last thing I have is a negative belief of myself as a Indian guy. Women are definitely not my problem and being indian has not hurt me one bit. Im just a realist and tell it like it is. Im not mr. Positive or inspiration, im more pragmatic and yet remain optimistic.

[Brosemite]

(02-01-2017 04:28 AM)262 Wrote:  

I've said this before, but when I lived in Atlanta, as an Asian American who Mexicans think is Mexican, I found the "racist" country girls more open to me than the "open" city transplant girls.

My guess is the latter saw me as a charity group, which is not masculine, while the former less so.

(02-02-2017 02:44 PM)dallasguy Wrote:  

Liberals are known for projecting

Will elaborate on both of these posts at once.

I don't want to get off topic too much, but I can smash certain hipster type liberal white gals from the 4-6.5 point range. When you go 7+ and up, these chicks have thrown me off because they're always projecting themselves as being "more open-minded" & "pro-diversity." The hottest liberal chicks typically have many more beta orbiters than a neutral or conservative gal who tend to be more intimidating; end of the day, hottest liberal chicks I know have ugly female friends & leverage the hell outta those betas while opting for the biggest bad boy alpha cock in their nearest proximity.

Not sure how relevant it was to your posts, but that's been my experiences at least. Thought I'd contribute that....

[tapthatass]

(02-05-2017 12:37 PM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 03:05 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

->Regarding penis size, I know most of you got pretty average 5 inch penis. Not a big deal. There are a lot of ways to maximize what you have been given. Most girls honestly don't care about your penis size since average size is way too lower than 5 in India.

Good god. If thats true you guys really need to buy the Bathmate and start doing some stretches. I'm Indian but I definitely don't have this problem. I guess it comes from not having good genes and poor nutrition. Alot of western women would laugh you out of the bedroom if you whip that out. I guess in Asian countries its not a big deal since it is the norm. For travelling abroad I guess Japan would be the ideal This wouldnt fly well with Latinas, Whites, and Blacks. Anything lower then 5 is Tiny. A average penis size is around 6 - 7 inches in Western Countries.

^ This is the biggest reason why Indian dudes cant get ahead.. Self Hate and Crab Mentality.. It was drilled into Indians by the Brits and then its been passed on from One gen to the next and so on.. CRAB MENTALITY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...0mentality

I am not sure if we should get a Mod to pay attention to the IRT type talk by this dude. But, he starts with "I know".. then "knows the avg size" Then.. "has no idea if its true".. then goes "But yo! I am hung"..

Agreed, man. I really pity these Indian-western guys.

Listen up Indians, let me say this one final time:

The problem is your mentality. Accept the fact that the world is unfair and that there is always some guy who's bigger and better than you. Instead of crying and self-loathing, put in the extra effort. It's worth it. It's similar to crying over your friend because his parents are richer than yours. It just doesn't make sense.

My guide makes it sound that Indian girls are pretty easy to game . No. There are also really hot guys here who get pussy by just "showing up". Most of the hottest, model-type girls sleep with these guys. So, how can I get that hot pussy? By offering them something those guys cannot. This is the secret rule every player consciously or unconsciously follows.

Those hot guys have a disadvantage that we can easily exploit by learning game. They cannot learn game (seriously they get pussy by just showing up so why should they learn?). They have bad narcissistic personalities. They aren't charming. By simply developing an alpha-inner game and a charming personality you can beat most of these guys in their own game.

If Indian girls are that easy to game then 95% of the men here should get atleast some sort of pussy. They aren't getting any . You know what, come to India and try it. You'll come to a realization that every sexual market is more or less the same.

After spending more time on this site, I beginning to realize that gaming is pretty easy in western countries when compared to India(girls seem more laid back). Probably I might visit USA or EU someday.

[xmlenigma]

(02-05-2017 09:10 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

The last thing I have is a negative belief of myself as a Indian guy. Women are definitely not my problem and being indian has not hurt me one bit. Im just a realist and tell it like it is. Im not mr. Positive or inspiration, im more pragmatic and yet remain optimistic.

Yes. Noticed that you Beat down on your own.. So instead of pointing out "factual & realistic" ways for people to improve their game, you became a Genital Biologist and went around looking for Hood Rat videos on several posts.

Read up what I highlighted from your "dick size survey" post. Just become aware of your words.

So, getting back to subject.. Share your "goods" Solutions/ beliefs/ experiences/ actions that HELP you be Good at the game. Do that instead of becoming a pseudo biologist.

PS: I've been with Latin / BR and EU girls and I dont see the above become an issue, unless someone is extremely tiny.. So let's move on from that. There's separate forums to address that.. > thunders

[262]

I remember JT Tran, an Asian-American coach, saying it was easier to train FOBs than Asian-Americans.

They would do the approaches more eagerly and have less mentality issues.

And I'm Asian-American.

[kartik13]

Actually, I dont "beat down" on my own. I've been around a lot of Indian guys that are successful with women. It's easier for me to actually get a white girl then it is to date Indian girls. Even with certain health issues that had me pretty overweight and not very attractive I still had a few women approaching me, and running game on me. With that being said the possibilities and opportunities are definitely there. A pragmatic and realistic strategies will definitely lead to great results instead of chasing some dreams. Like "I just gotta keep approaching" is the only solution, give me a break. I dont get why these guys that are member's of the religion known as "emotionalism" get overly dramatic.

I just posted 1 hood black chick video out of 3 videos I posted. Regardless if she is a hood-rat or a executive businesswoman. The message is pretty universal, and regardless a lot of women would agree with what she said. Regarding this whole "dick size survey", Reread the OP and ask who actually did a survey. Sure maybe i don't have all the "empirical facts", but I'm just sharing supposedly "common sense" so I don't know why people are getting upset. I always said find your domain or niche, even if the guy was small. Find the right women for you, and master your domain. Like they say, "get in where you fit in".

[Cobra]

@tapthatass, like I said in my other thread, this thread is a highly "try hard" attempt to elevate yourself at the expense of men of your own race. People have different issues and they come here to discuss them openly. No need to grand stand on an established game forum where you still need to be accepted.

Your full guide basically says : Change your mentality and you will get laid, with no reference or specific experiences to go off of. I've read, approached and been around established players before and something doesn't add up about you.

I would disagree that the sexual market in India is the same as a western country. I've been in both. Each market has its own social rules and results vary significantly across cultures.

It's been a while since I have gone troll hunting. Thanks for the opportunity.

[tapthatass]

@cobra

huh? Why post a similar reponse in a different thread? I have already read your response in that "prejudice" post and made a reply there. Regarding your other two questions:


-->"Your full guide basically says : Change your mentality and you will get laid, with no reference or specific experiences to go off of. I've read, approached and been around established players before and something doesn't add up about you."

The problem for an Indian guys living in India is mentality.It's 90% of the battle. I will share situational experiences in future. I have to make a lot of modifications to my original guide(missed a lot of points) but this thread has been destroyed already. There are part 2, and 3 but I eventually decided "fuck it."

-->"It's been a while since I have gone troll hunting. Thanks for the opportunity"

Anyone who has different views is not a troll. I'm predicting that you are "safe-space" kinda guy but I'm not sure. Another thing to keep in mind is that you are the only one who's overreacting to my responses and posts. A lot of people told me to chill out (I respect them and stopped using aggressive words) but you're the only one who's trying to pick apart line-by-line of my responses because you're probably triggered. It all goes back to my "safe-space kinda guy" theory but again, I'm not sure.

Seriously, you've said that you gamed in India. Is this "emotional attack" your only contribution to this thread(this thread has been up for quite a while)? Who's the real troll here?

[Suave]

My turn to make a testament for the Indian boys here: I'm 5"7, in decent shape, okay face, and Indian...I have no problems getting laid! Nothing grand like some of the boys here, but easily more than your average guy. And that's with girls of every colour, except black cause we barely have any of 'em in NZ.

So how do I do it? Well it's been reiterated on this forum a shitload of times...be confident and relaxed. Don't expect to be rewarded for any work you put in i.e. an approach. When you remove expectations and just try to enjoy the moment, there will be big difference in your body language.

Your race makes a negligible difference in real life. How you present yourself is key. This is my personal experience.

[Cobra]

(02-08-2017 09:17 PM)tapthatass Wrote:  

@cobra

huh? Why post a similar reponse in a different thread? I have already read your response in that "prejudice" post and made a reply there. Regarding your other two questions:


-->"Your full guide basically says : Change your mentality and you will get laid, with no reference or specific experiences to go off of. I've read, approached and been around established players before and something doesn't add up about you."

The problem for an Indian guys living in India is mentality.It's 90% of the battle. I will share situational experiences in future. I have to make a lot of modifications to my original guide(missed a lot of points) but this thread has been destroyed already. There are part 2, and 3 but I eventually decided "fuck it."

I am quite shocked that you missed a lot of points and need to make modifications. Maybe you can create another thread just about "dick sizes." Yes, this thread has been destroyed already and quite gloriously I may add. I fully support your decision to not publish any more "guides."

Quote:

-->"It's been a while since I have gone troll hunting. Thanks for the opportunity"

Anyone who has different views is not a troll. I'm predicting that you are "safe-space" kinda guy but I'm not sure. Another thing to keep in mind is that you are the only one who's overreacting to my responses and posts. A lot of people told me to chill out (I respect them and stopped using aggressive words) but you're the only one who's trying to pick apart line-by-line of my responses because you're probably triggered. It all goes back to my "safe-space kinda guy" theory but again, I'm not sure.

Seriously, you've said that you gamed in India. Is this "emotional attack" your only contribution to this thread(this thread has been up for quite a while)? Who's the real troll here?

Yes, I am a safe space "kinda" guy. The forum is my safe space to release all of the built up tension I have from my lack of sex, low testosterone and social ability. I live in my mom's basement and work part time at Starbucks until refugees come in and take my job.

[RealDeal]

(01-30-2017 03:50 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 04:32 AM)Resolute Wrote:  

Not only are Indian men apparently unwanted everywhere in the world (if RVF's IndianRaceTrolls are to be taken as indicators of such) but Indian women are also terrible sexual partners as well.

That's pretty much utter bullshit since I'm literally the man who proves this statement wrong.

IRT's aren't ANY indicator of ANYTHING.

They come on here because they're searching for help, BUT they're so race obsessed that it comes off as annoying and they refuse self help.


Most IRT's are FOB's or Desi's who don't immerse themselves in the host nations culture and customs. Ex) They don't Americanize themselves.

This is beating a dead horse, if the IRT's actually were open minded to game, cleaned themselves up, and immersed themselves in the culture they'd stand a chance.

Most IRT's don't see that, they just "want white girl", and come off as super fucking thirsty.

Indian women aren't terrible sexual partners at all, however, they aren't the greatest gals out there either, especially the Americanized ones with princess jasmine syndrome or becoming feminists.

The point is to maximize your SMV as much as possible and to game as much as possible, IRT's refuse to do that, so fuck them.

I never knew about this whole obsession with white women until I started reading this forum. I suspect this kind of thinking is more common with the south indians than it is with their northern indo aryan counterparts. Most of my immoral male cousins have been going out with plain bread white girls their whole lives. It's never been a source of fascination for me at all.

[tapthatass]

http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2016/03/1...dian-guys/

Someone I know messaged me this article and asked me to comment. So here it is.

This "BlackDragon"(what a fucking name!) is mostly right. The article itself is a positive one. Here are some of the things I really liked.

Quote:

This is not because of how Indian guys look or how they are perceived, but rather the horrible attitudes most Indian men carry around with them when it comes to women (especially white women) and sex.

Agreed.

Quote:

If you’re an Indian man reading these words, you likely think that you’ve had trouble with women, particularly white women, because women “don’t like Indian guys.”

WRONG.

You’re having trouble for one reason and one reason only: Your culture and/or your Indian parents have brainwashed you with oceans of bullshit regarding sex, gender relations, and your status as a man. The problem is between your ears, not with women.

Yep. Something that's deeply ingrained into you from your childhood takes A LOT OF TIME to flush. There are some guys who are players but still have problems with their negative, beta and low self-esteem mindset.

This 'flushing' process takes atleast one or two years. You need to go deep down, and change your core beliefs one-by-one.

Quote:

I could fill the rest of this article with specific techniques on how to behave more confidently and be less nerdy, but I’m going to save that for the next article in this series when I discuss Asian guys. Most of you Indian guys having trouble wouldn’t benefit from such advice anyway. Technique is not what most of you need. You need a change in mindset. All the tricks and tips aren’t going to do shit for you if you’re still carrying around this low self-esteem, anti-sex SP.

Learning technique is a waste of time before fixing your mindset and inner game. I have no idea why some of you disagree with this.

I have also read all of the comments. Some of them are really interesting.


Conclusion:

In the end, it's a great article but the problem that some of you might have is that he didn't really give any advice on how to fix your mindset.

Fixing your mindset takes a continuous and mindful approach. You have to constantly write your mistakes down and keep on reading about inner game everyday. As I said, it takes a lot of time. It's your choice - you can either learn game first , fake it out and get easy lays or take the harder way and make it a habit of fixing your beliefs from the very core.

Simply put, shortcut guide is to quickly internalize core-beliefs of the game and use them while the long guide is to pick apart each of your beliefs and critically analyze each of them. If you opt for the long approach then make sure you maintain a book and write down each of your belief and i) your arguments and ii)counter arguments against the belief.

This is the short version of 'six-thinking hats' method.

Here's a quick example :(for those who need step-by-step guide)
For example, you want to get rid of "the one"

Pro-one: 1) I believe that you will be forever happy with the right girl.
2)My feelings of love cannot be reciprocated with other girls ie., this is true love.
3) 4) 5)..... blah blah blah.

The next thing you must do is do your research ie.,talk to the right players and figure out whether your beliefs are true or not. Here, it's important that you take an anti-perspective first. You will end up with something like this.

Anti-one: 1) It's a myth. A girl cannot make you happy unless you already are.
2)There is no 'forever-one'. People change. There are multiple one's at different points of your life.
3) 4) 5) ..blah blah blah.

After you finish the complete argument. Then go back to neutral perspective and critically analyze the points you have written down. After you're convinced, write the whole thing down in your game-journal (because you're going to make mistakes in real life. You'll always come back.) Rinse and repeat until you completely internalize the belief and stop making mistakes.

Having a Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations" kinda book (notes to oneself) is a really important step. Your book will keep your beliefs organized and will guide you down the road whenever you make mistakes.

Good luck. Read about the six thinking hats if you want to completely understand the technique. This also helps in i) creative thinking and ii) separates your emotions from logic while taking decisions.

[Maxzilla]

(02-03-2017 09:21 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

The dick size thing is nonsense, if you're attractive enough to a girl she'll be cooing about how big you are even if your package is pitifully small. Who the fuck knows how big the average Indian dude's dick is, more importantly who the fuck cares. Your attitude towards yourself and your body is what's truly important. If you're running around with the mentality that women despise you for your small Indian penis, guess what? Your own negativity and self hatred will shine through in your personality, and THAT will be what fucks you over in the end.

LOL thanks for revealing that you have a small penis