[kimleebj]

(08-18-2011 12:02 PM)Russ Wrote:  

I am 39 and it is over.

I am older than you, but probably look around your age. Dissatisfied with my situation, I read, lurked, and went to the gym. I finally started dating recently, including successful dates with 28- and 30-year olds.

Guess what? Many women don't care about age. Some of them prefer older men, and some even prefer married men. There are really hot women in their early thirties who are getting desperate. If you want to date only teenagers then I think you are a bit messed up and can't help you. Otherwise you are in a fine situation. I presume you have some relationship experience and are comfortable with women. You are more mature, richer, and worldly. This should foster an easy, confident rapport. It is time to work on your skillz.

I'm not the best source for online game. Obviously men must first contact women online. If women are visiting your profile and not replying then either your profile or messages suck. Or maybe the dating site sucks. Get somebody to review.

[iknowexactly]

I'm 55, and I have not yet peaked at wounding, outshining, inspiring venomous, jealous criticism from all ghosts and not-yet-alives.

Take inspiration from Ahab's final epithets against his nemesis:

"'Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!'" Chapter 135, pg. 477

Now- Even with death seconds away!-Did THAT sucker sound like he was giving up?

No. MF went down in style.

[Roosh]

Is the pity party over?

[Russ]

RE: I am too old...I quit.

Is the pity party over?

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That is unfair. Goodbye.[/align]

[Russ]

Please cancel my profile/account.

[Roosh]

With all due respect, I'm pretty sure you are a troll.

1. You come onto the forum, ready to conquer the world, sharing your game tips.
2. Two weeks later, you post this near suicidal rant about how it is "over".

Either you're going through a bad time or you're trolling us. If it's the first, I think you should deal with that.

As for cancelling accounts, re-read number 6:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/member.ph...n=register

Just delete your bookmark and you won't be bothered.

Good luck.

[el mechanico]

(08-20-2011 09:19 AM)Russ Wrote:  

Please cancel my profile/account.

Well I guess we know what the problem is. You lack staying power. Man up!

[Russ]

Roosh, you are partly right and mostly wrong. i AM new to the 'game' and already, certain things have worked for me and have worked well. a few days ago i had a dip and some painful rejections and thought i would vent and rant on here. is this not the site for the ups and downs?
as for being a troll,thats lazy of you to say so and its too easy a shot at someone. as for being near killing myself,that you could read that from my thread is harsh of you and wrong.

[El GringoLombian]

(08-18-2011 12:02 PM)Russ Wrote:  

I am 39 and it is over. If i daygame a hot young girl I will be called a dirty old man. My online openers all get read with VAST traffic to my profile,but with very few replies. And why? I am too old. I admit it now. It is over. I can look but never game/pull/seduce.

I have bought all the material and it means nothing past a certain age. Goodnight.

Read my thread below. One other thing online dating is a numbers game. Women in particular have pretty set age criteria. There are women who will delete your email on a dating site but in person they are not asking how old you are. Either they entertain the possibility and talk to you or put up the 'get the fuck away from me' bitch deflector shield.

[Chemical O]

Get in shape and come here to vietnam...you will be fine, but that is advice for non-quitters.

[UgSlayer]

I love when people quit. More pussy for me.

[rickb223]

(08-20-2011 09:35 AM)Russ Wrote:  

Roosh, you are partly right and mostly wrong. i AM new to the 'game' and already, certain things have worked for me and have worked well. a few days ago i had a dip and some painful rejections and thought i would vent and rant on here. is this not the site for the ups and downs?
as for being a troll,thats lazy of you to say so and its too easy a shot at someone. as for being near killing myself,that you could read that from my thread is harsh of you and wrong.

I'm 48.
My online profiles say 40.
In person I say 40.
Quit? I'll quit when they lower the coffin lid, and not a day before.

[Pusscrook]

(08-20-2011 09:18 AM)Russ Wrote:  

RE: I am too old...I quit.

Is the pity party over?

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Easy Gramps. No need for stress . One little dip happens to all of us. Keep trying, but don't bitch when some of us are harsh with you. We just don't want you to make silly mistakes and we sometimes come across a bit rough. Of course this is a forum to vent and rant but I think we were beginning to sense a pattern .Listen, to avoid these "dips" that make you act as if the world ran out of prozac , just jack -off before you talk to some of these whores. It takes the sting out of rejection because your balls are empty and therefore, you may feel as though you lost nothing.

Now, if you have the wires all crossed up and your real agenda is love, I beg you , depart from this forum promptly. We will continue to deliver your head to you if this is the agenda and you a feigning as if you are all about the "game". I don't mind getting banned ,and will deliver wrath, because this forum wont help me with getting my gifts whatsoever. So, know why you are here , learn a few tricks , You know the proverb" Out of the mouth of babes...you finish it.

[NoBalls]

I'm in my late 30s and this last year has been the best year I have ever had pulling at bars. (I'm still not good at it.) With that said, age is an issue with some women and not with others. Some are totally cool with it and some are creeped out by it. I picked up one girl at a club and everything was fine when we got back to her place until her roommate asked me how old I was. She thought my age was creepy and I couldn't recover from that. She was 27 years old. Other women younger than her have been totally cool with my age and had sex with me. Sometimes women never ask my age.

One thing I learned is that it's very important to make out with a girl before she asks my age unless she is in her 30s. Women are usually totally cool about age if she has already kissed me when she finds out my age.

Earlier this year I made out with a 20 year old girl in a club and she was totally okay with my age and continued kissing me like there was no tomorrow. Her friends were not okay with me and they pulled her away when I tried to bring her to another area of the club.

[Pusscrook]

(08-20-2011 06:11 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

I'm in my late 30s and this last year has been the best year I have ever had pulling at bars. (I'm still not good at it.) With that said, age is an issue with some women and not with others. Some are totally cool with it and some are creeped out by it. I picked up one girl at a club and everything was fine when we got back to her place until her roommate asked me how old I was. She thought my age was creepy and I couldn't recover from that. She was 27 years old. Other women younger than her have been totally cool with my age and had sex with me. Sometimes women never ask my age.

One thing I learned is that it's very important to make out with a girl before she asks my age unless she is in her 30s. Women are usually totally cool about age if she has already kissed me when she finds out my age.

Earlier this year I made out with a 20 year old girl in a club and she was totally okay with my age and continued kissing me like there was no tomorrow. Her friends were not okay with me and they pulled her away when I tried to bring her to another area of the club.

Perhaps you can counsel Russ. He may be a bit tore up from the beating he took in here , but, try to console him.

[Hokie30]

(08-18-2011 12:34 PM)Russ Wrote:  

Ok,wait,that doesnt help. I see daygame videos. i see guys late teens to late 20's. the usual PUA age group. i see them chatting up hot babes late teens to mid 20's. i think 'yeah!. i'll have some of that'. but im TOO old. it's cool. im in the UK. The idea of going to Thailand to get laid is so sad id rather become a monk. of course i am venting steam on this, but its all true. there is a point where women see an old perv and not a cute guy.

Russ, thanks for mentioning this. In the wasteland that is Washington, DC I am feeling some of this already and I am "only" 32.
Of course, I definitely look my age and perhaps a little older as although I am jacked (Amateur bodybuilder) I definitely do not have the face of a handsome, 22 year old guy. I am not at the point of giving up myself but in a year or two I might...

Then I might have to hit up Eastern Europe as Roosh is doing to build up my confidence and self-esteem.

[ManAbout]

(08-21-2011 03:28 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

I definitely do not have the face of a handsome, 22 year old guy. I am not at the point of giving up myself but in a year or two I might...

Just because you find 22 year old guys handsome, it is not necessarily true for a lot of girls. In fact, many of them, even some 18 years olds(not all for sure), prefer the face of a 30 something year old man. Actually this look appeals to many women of all ages, from late teens to their 50s.

[iknowexactly]

The age ladder works like this: When you can't, even with good game, get chix in the age range you want in 1st world (US, UK, etc) next step EE.

If ravenous EE chix don't wear you out for good, after that, descend to Asia where, I hear, in the Philippines; 70-somethings can still get [some] 18 year olds.

That 27 year old who wouldn't do the 39 year old will be wailing at 43 that she can't get guys under 60.
Well, not really, she'll be railing she can't get 35-year-olds cause she still "looks 25."

She won't even consider the 60 year old she could get, and will become an fan of cats, while your 22 year old Filipina is squealing in the tropical night.
You can think fondly of her at that time.

This message brought to you by Full Venom Jacket, an American organization of men intent on repelling Ameriwhales.

[ManAbout]

(08-21-2011 10:40 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

The age ladder works like this: When you can't, even with good game, get chix in the age range you want in 1st world (US, UK, etc) next step EE.

Or just mess with the age ladder. Nobody has to know how old you really are unless you are at the altar. With exercise, diet and a bit of a cosmetic help, there is no reason why you can't look 10 to 20 years younger than your age. If you are 60 year old who looks 40, make the most of it with girls in their late 20s and 30s.

[iknowexactly]

(08-21-2011 10:55 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Or just mess with the age ladder. Nobody has to know how old you really are unless you are at the altar. With exercise, diet and a bit of a cosmetic help, there is no reason why you can't look 10 to 20 years younger than your age. If you are 60 year old who looks 40, make the most of it with girls in their late 20s and 30s.

Good point, leads to the question: by how much should you lie? At 52 the 25 year old I was fucking behind her boyfriend's back looked at me carefully while we were discussing lying about age and said I could easily pass for 38.

Is it better to lie a lot, and risk not being believed, or construct a conservative lie and risk sounding too old?

Lying by a large amount also might make it harder to come back to honesty should you decide to hang on to the lizard long-term.

Secondary question: Is it worth it/needed in EE/Asia?

Another story: A friend of mine was musing about lying about his age with some lesbians, and they were puzzled, because they completely took it for granted that you "HAD to lie" and told him so.

[ManAbout]

(08-21-2011 10:59 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Is it better to lie a lot, and risk not being believed, or construct a conservative lie and risk sounding too old?

Lying by a large amount also might make it harder to come back to honesty should you decide to hang on to the lizard long-term.

Secondary question: Is it worth it/needed in EE/Asia?

I don't know about EE, but in N America, it's definitely needed once you get into your mid 30s and want to bang 21 year olds.

How much you lie totally depends on your target age range and trial and error. I think most guys want to keep banging early 20s girls as long as they can. So, if you can be 28 years old for 20 years, then do it. If you start getting push back with girls not believing you, then up it. And adjust your target age range up a little more. Keep repeating until dead.