[infowarrior1]

Why we are all Debt Slaves by Black Pigeon Speaks:

This is why the migrant crisis exists alongside other motives.

[CaptainChardonnay]

Check out The Money Masters

[Travesty]

I have personally bought stock in MasterCard and also lent money in P2P lending on Lending Tree, some loans at 20%+ interest.

I feel like the wolf in the forest of deer

When I have broken a certain interest payments reception threshold, (((they))) said they will let me join the club. Official.

[Wrec]

I read this as Are we all Debt SLAVS
I should really stop watching Life of Boris youtube channel

[HOD]

Yes,

Why?

Two words:

Federal Reserve

[Swell]

(01-13-2017 04:22 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

...lent money in P2P lending on Lending Tree, some loans at 20%+ interest.

I feel like the wolf in the forest of deer

When I have broken a certain interest payments reception threshold, (((they))) said they will let me join the club. Official.

Lendingtree.com? P2P lending? 20%?

I'm not seeing it on webpage...

Could you please start a thread?

Or respond with a quick & dirty guide?

[infowarrior1]

(01-13-2017 06:11 AM)Wrec Wrote:  

I read this as Are we all Debt SLAVS
I should really stop watching Life of Boris youtube channel

In all seriousness. I think that this fractional reserve banking scam is one of the central reasons why western countries are eager to import so many immigrants since constant population growth is the only way to keep the system sustainable.

[Luvianka]

Yes, of course. Since there is a PRIVATE bank called the Federal Reserve of the USA which has the monopoly to issue money out of thin air and charges an interest on each dollar that is circulating around the World. Every dollar bill is nothing but an IOU. You can check out all the details in the best economy book ever written 'The Web of Debt' by Ellen Hodgoson Brown.

[Travesty]

(01-13-2017 08:25 AM)Swell Wrote:  

(01-13-2017 04:22 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

...lent money in P2P lending on Lending Tree, some loans at 20%+ interest.

I feel like the wolf in the forest of deer

When I have broken a certain interest payments reception threshold, (((they))) said they will let me join the club. Official.

Lendingtree.com? P2P lending? 20%?

I'm not seeing it on webpage...

Could you please start a thread?

Or respond with a quick & dirty guide?

LendingClub - apologies.

The 20% ones are rated D, F, G credit worthiness though.

Many in the B / C range at 10%+ though.

You micro loan $25 amount blocks out to individual borrowers that already have their credit rating, borrowing history & stats for you to see. You can do it yourself or use their automated system and just place the %s for each credit rating you want to lend to.

The loans are 3 or 5 years in length. Borrower can pay off early like any loan. If they payoff early and you have the automated system on it can reinvest immediately to keep your portfolio in balance.

It also tells you what to expect in % ROI over the lifetime of your loans. I am going super aggressive with a small amount to see what happens (lots of 15%+ loans). The site predicts I earn 7-8% over the lifetime of the loans. Based on that the SP 500 returns ~9%-11% historically over the long run, so I see this P2P lending as a great bridge when the stock market is flat or heading toward a bottom. Much better than 3-5% you could earn in bonds that could be bad right now with rising interest rates on the way.

It is predicting based on other user info on the site on a plot chart on how many loans in your portfolio are likely to default at some point and factors it in.

So you earn the most interest payments at the beginning of the loan and you see slope of bad borrowers defaulting as time goes on (usually 1 year+ into the life of the loan).

I see P2P lending fitting into a financial investment stack like this:

Your Own Business ->
Property Investments (rentals / flipping) ->
Stocks ->
P2P Lending ->
Tax Exempt Short Term Bonds (Fuck you rainy day funds / safe haven from stock market crash) ->
Checking Account ->
Cash In Pocket To Buy That Chick A Jager Shot At The Bar ->
Pussy

Depending on taxes may fit some municipal bonds in their somewhere in there.

Lets say interests shoot up in the next 2-3 years and you feel a stock market correction is coming (a big one), could be smart to ditch the stock market dump a bunch into P2P lending locked in at even higher returns than now for the next 3 years... maybe 8-12% return for aggressive portfolio while the stock market goes to bottom and ride it out.

[brick tamland]

Yes we are all debt slaves. Govt.'s of nations with a Rothschild-owned central bank are all pumping money into an infinite hole to repay a debt that will never disappear. We the worker ants cannot own anything of value. Every 'asset' is subject to a tax. Even all property is always subject to real estate tax in perpetuity.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Importing immigrants would work if there was work for the immigrants and tax-payers entered the country. However unemployment would rise even without immigration in the next years, so you are essentially importing unemployed who are costing money (not all, but the majority). In addition many immigrants are low-IQ and those jobs are disappearing even faster.

So the importation of immigrants does not have the goal of paying for the debt, it has the goal of destroying the Western countries, so that the debt slaves do not rise up in 20 years and oust the elite. A country consisting of "diverse" people with immense difference in IQ (from 75 to 115 in terms of tribes) and massive differences in attitudes and work ethics, that country will never unite against the globalists - they are doomed to descend at best into a police state or chaos - or worse.

50% of costs of all goods and services are usury by the way:

Without the useless usury system everything would be 50% cheaper, so essentially you are paying the globalists half of your income anyway. On top of that you pay the government for their crap but compared to usury even that is a pittance.

[kavi]

Yeah except no one is forcing people to buy new cars with loans, no one is forcing you to move out age 21 and pay rent to push up real estate prices and no one is forcing you to take out large mortgages to buy property out of your affordability.

Most people are in debt due to their own choices. If you dont like the game dont play, but whining wont get you anywhere.

It simply comes down to whether you choose to be a producer or a consumer, whether the money is gold backed, paper, fiat or whatever makes little difference.

[Lucky]

Reminds me of a thought experiment from the great political philosopher Robert Nozick:

Quote:

"Consider the following sequence of cases... and imagine it is about you.

1. There is a slave completely at the mercy of his brutal master's whims. He often is cruelly beaten, called out in the middle of the night, and so on.

2. The master is kindlier and beats the slave only for stated infractions of his rules (not fulfilling the work quota, and so on). He gives the slave some free time.

3. The master has a group of slaves, and he decides how things are to be allocated among them on nice grounds, taking into account their needs, merit, and so on.

4. The master allows his slaves four days on their own and requires them to work only three days a week on his land. The rest of the time is their own.

5. The master allows his slaves to go off and work in the city (or anywhere they wish) for wages. He requires only that they send back to him three-sevenths of their wages. He also retains the power to recall them to the plantation if some emergency threatens his land; and to raise or lower the three-sevenths amount required to be turned over to him. He further retains the right to restrict the slaves from participating in certain dangerous activities that threaten his financial return, for example, mountain climbing, cigarette smoking.

6. The master allows all of his 10,000 slaves, except you, to vote, and the joint decision is made by all of them. There is open discussion, and so forth, among them, and they have the power to determine to what uses to put whatever percentage of your (and their) earnings they decide to take; what activities legitimately may be forbidden to you, and so on.

* * *

7. Though still not having the vote, you are at liberty (and are given the right) to enter into the discussions of the 10,000, to try to persuade them to adopt various policies and to treat you and themselves in a certain way. They then go off to vote to decide upon policies covering the vast range of their powers.

8. In appreciation of your useful contributions to discussion, the 10,000 allow you to vote if they are deadlocked; they commit themselves to this procedure. After the discussion you mark your vote on a slip of paper, and they go off and vote. In the eventuality that they divide evenly on some issue, 5,000 for and 5,000 against, they look at your ballot and count it in. This has never yet happened; they have never yet had occasion to open your ballot. (A single master also might commit himself to letting his slave decide any issue concerning him about which he, the master, was absolutely indifferent.)

9. They throw your vote in with theirs. If they are exactly tied your vote carries the issue. Otherwise it makes no difference to the electoral outcome.

The question is: which transition from case 1 to case 9 made it no longer the tale of a slave?"

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-14-2017 06:57 AM)kavi Wrote:  

Yeah except no one is forcing people to buy new cars with loans, no one is forcing you to move out age 21 and pay rent to push up real estate prices and no one is forcing you to take out large mortgages to buy property out of your affordability.

Most people are in debt due to their own choices. If you dont like the game dont play, but whining wont get you anywhere.

It simply comes down to whether you choose to be a producer or a consumer, whether the money is gold backed, paper, fiat or whatever makes little difference.

Bullshit.

It matters, because if a government indebts itself instead of printing money debt and interest free, then it has to take the cash from someone and guess who it is?

Also when government becomes beholden to the 0,01% who own their debt, then that government can implement any policy that is destructive to the 99,9% of the population without any regard whatsoever for their wellbeing.

Whehter you yourself have zero debt does not matter one iota. You are still a debt slave.

[kavi]

The government can simply print more money and inflate away the debt. It doesnt need to come after you to take money. Anyway government expenditure is policy related not related to whether its cash is fiat or gold-backed or measured in cattle.

The government isnt "beholden" to one percent that owns its debt. China who I believe are the largest owners of US debt, hardly have the ability to control the US (just look at Trumps rhetoric towards China).

I think it matters a great deal whether you have zero or huge debt, far more than the debt of the government.

Also, it should be pretty clear to you that the financial crises was caused by excessive private debt, not government debt, as a comparison of the effects of each.

People need to stop buying shit to make themselves feel worthwhile while getting into debt, then trying to put the blame on The Fed or The Rothschilds.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

As an economists those utterings are as moronic as the entire field.

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/

Here a good site to make a good basic information or watch the Money Masters by Bill Still. I have been in contact with Bill Still and he said that Milton Friedman before his death congratulated him on the movie. Friedman reputedly said that indeed the fractional reserve banking would have to be tackled first, central bank second.

Nuff said.

[Swell]

(01-13-2017 11:00 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

(01-13-2017 08:25 AM)Swell Wrote:  

Lendingtree.com? P2P lending? 20%?

LendingClub

Travesty

Thank you for the Lending Club Quick & Dirty Guide.

I'm very interested in Lending.

+1 rep

In high school I was lending out dollars for the vending machines. I was making .25 cent on the dollar. It all ended when one person decide he would not repaid and then asked if I was going to fight him over a dollar. I said fuck it and called in all the loans.

It was fun while it last. Thinking now I should have knocked him out.

[Greyman]

First; no disrespect intended. I know I don't have the post count.

I'll take the ban if so as I believe putting out useful content that may open another man to the truths we all purportedly expound on here is worth it. I've wanted to put this up here for a while.

As relatively small as we are here, its still a beautiful thing to see so many men uncorking their minds to the realities of our nefarious 'home of the free' mantra shit .gov pushes on us. It's taken a while for me to get enlightened to the realities of these facts, but as a middle aged guy I believe its incumbent on us to first find, then SEE the truth... and more important, pass that knowledge on.

I know I wish someone had bent my ear at an earlier time in my life to the content that ya'all have already published...and to whit I'll throw my 2 cents in. Its a little dated (2006?) but has personal significance to me.

America: Freedom to Fascism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNeVu8wUak

Without divulging too much without clearing it (one of them is in another legal battle with the IRS, presently) I lived with two of the people featured in this video and man; literally the fire side chats I had! The better part of a year was listening to two highly educated men talk about law, government workings, social issues, and morality, etc. that was the start of a decade of RP truths before that became a 'thing'.

It harks back to a day where socially conscious, well meaning moral men actually taught the 'why' we should strengthen ourselves with the trifecta of core values inherent to a solid foundation (Body, Mind, Soul) and not just a litany of "go to college, get degree, get married..." etc.

For that I'm grateful and I hope we here continue the ability to inspire, enlightened, push, adjust fire and course correct without b.s. or butt hurt til we make it, or have a (God Forbid) HARD reset. I've seen real strife in crappy places we shouldn't be in anymore; we don't want that shit in our streets and for those who envision glory in any civil conflict with sjw or anyone else....wrong mindset. Lets turn our country around with some hard truths that start with our leaders actually leading from the front as they say. The alternative is there may come a time for the populous to remind them they're beholden to their constituents.

Edit: Just skipped over to ROK, and guess what? Yes, I've see food riots, too. Scary as all hell.

http://www.returnofkings.com/112252/the-...-is-coming

MAGAing it off every chance I get.