[XPQ22]

(01-08-2017 09:18 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

Over the years, I watched all evidence of masculinity in my brother disappear. The man who formerly mocked liberals for their stupidity withered, becoming a complete cuck who would take his wife's toxic side in her SJW arguments, and upbraid me for using non-PC words. He even became a John Scalzi fan.

One of the more depressing things I've noticed about modern American conservatism is that while some of the men who subscribe to the ideology are often really good at putting down other men who have more liberal notions about things, they pedestalize the shit out of the pussy.

One young guy I work with loves Trump to pieces and will say this liberal is a cuck or that liberal is a cuck and so on. But when it comes to his wife, "She is a goddess as all women are, the feet of which I am not worthy to wash and I devote my everlasting heart to her and..." etc. blah blah blather.

Dude is going to get owned.

Red pill exteriors. Blue pill hearts. Thinks because his wife is for the moment a good homemaker men and women are all really on the same team. We're not on the same team.

[Turnus]

^^

He will soon learn the truth. Add a couple of kids, everyday life, ups and downs of a marriage and sex about once a quarter and you'll soon have a guy trying to figure out where it all went wrong.

[Hoser]

XPQ22: great point.

It's sadly ironic that my brother and I were both in the military in 1994 when the movie PCU (Politically Correct University, a satire mocking the then-new idea of PC) came out. We made sure to see it on opening night, and we both loved it, even though it was a pretty crap movie.

Compare to the last time I saw my brother: wife and I were having lunch with him and Hambeast at one of the swankiest restaurants in Newport Beach.

Me: "Such and such is kind of ghetto...."
Beast:" That's offensive! You can't say that!"
Me: "Why not? What's offensive about it?"
Brother: "[Beast] has worked with a lot of clients who live in actual ghettos...it's not acceptable to speak of ghettos as if they're somehow inferior."
Me: [Fu*k this, I'm out] "So where are you two planning to visit on your trip to Southern California?"

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-09-2017 02:00 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

XPQ22: great point.

It's sadly ironic that my brother and I were both in the military in 1994 when the movie PCU (Politically Correct University, a satire mocking the then-new idea of PC) came out. We made sure to see it on opening night, and we both loved it, even though it was a pretty crap movie.

Compare to the last time I saw my brother: wife and I were having lunch with him and Hambeast at one of the swankiest restaurants in Newport Beach.

Me: "Such and such is kind of ghetto...."
Beast:" That's offensive! You can't say that!"
Me: "Why not? What's offensive about it?"
Brother: "[Beast] has worked with a lot of clients who live in actual ghettos...it's not acceptable to speak of ghettos as if they're somehow inferior."
Me: [Fu*k this, I'm out] "So where are you two planning to visit on your trip to Southern California?"
"So you wouldn't mind living there then? If not, WHY not?"

*wait for gears to turn over in his head and THEN change the subject before the argument starts*

[Hoser]

Leonard, you are so right. I'm still learning how to offer K responses to r stimuli. I'm not entirely up to speed at the moment, but I'm honing my Trumpian skills day by day.

[Hoser]

I had an awesome RVF bro reach out to me re: the situation behind this thread. I replied privately, then realized some of the rest of the men who gave me great advice might also enjoy an update. After about three months, there's been slow progress, but it does seem to be healthy progress.

Bro is getting over things somewhat, has his own place, says he feels "awkward" now when he has to be around the old girl.

I offered to lend an ear anytime, but he's choosing his local buddies instead, far as I can tell. He and I live a couple thousand miles apart, so swinging by isn't really an option. I don't know if any of his buds are RP, but I know they do care about him.

I've tried a little light-hearted contact including bringing up some good memories we had together as 80s kids. He's responding well. But he has over 15 years of hard feelings toward me because of my disapproval of his ex. I'm being careful to let things improve organically between us, and not force anything. I don't know if we'll ever again be as close as we were when we were younger, but I'm hopeful that I can have a relationship with him again, and maybe even one day help him see the light re: the red pill (remember, this is a John Scalzi fan, so there's much deprogramming to be done).

Feel free to share any thoughts.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good job OP on helping your brother out. Send him that link.
thread-47342...vorce+trip

That will help him see the light.

Best of luck! Keep us posted man!

Cheers!