[El Triste]

I'm still not deleted but I'm glad you guys are giving me all this attention. It's reassuring.

[MathGuy]

(01-08-2017 06:46 PM)crispytaco Wrote:  

Is that guy Owen even a member here?

No.

Sometimes I wonder if he's redbeard, but probably not.

In this forum, there is a split between those who dislike RSD (usually it's along the lines of "they encourage autistic spam approaching and are too cultlike") and those who like them (they do offer a lot of great content and varied perspectives if you investigate beyond the surface media coverage of Julien yelling Pikachu)

[El Triste]

I don't think Crook would have the time to be on this forum he's too busy scamming money
From guys who think game is about being one with the universe and being a socialite cuck.

[Brodiaga]

(01-08-2017 07:26 PM)El Triste Wrote:  

I'm still not deleted but I'm glad you guys are giving me all this attention. It's reassuring.

Quote:

A landmark study published last Thursday in the Australian Journal of Science, Medicine, and Arachnology, proves once and for all, that OP is indeed a phaggot. The results of the six month long study, while having only been released a few days ago, have already gained widespread acceptance among the scientific community. According to researchers, the study went into great depths and utilized a wide variety of research methods. "We did everything from genetic analysis, to behavioral analysis, to even interviewing the OP's family and friends. All of our collected data points to the same conclusion. That OP is a phaggot." said Professor Big Cockenstein. "In one particular experiment, we sneaked into the OP's home and replaced the hotdogs in his fridge with dildos. Upon returning home, OP proceeded to put the dildos between his buns. And I don't mean hotdog buns."

Even though the study has been proclaimed by the scientific community to be one of the greatest studies of the 21st century, not all members of the public have a positive opinion of it. One man which we interviewed yesterday, said the following: "Why are these kunts wasting money to study something like this? Everyone already knew the answer. You might as well have a study to prove that the sky is blue and that the grass is green." Others were much more happy to see the study completed. "I'm a psychology major and have been following the study for the last 2 months, waiting for the results to be published. I am really happy to see the research back up my own personal observations regarding the OP."

However, no matter what one's opinion of the study may be, one thing is for certain.

The OP is a phaggot. In the words of Professor Big Cockenstein: "It is scientific fact."

[El Triste]

Why all the hate lol. You guys feeling a little down? Need to unload some of that primal alpha rage?

[Valentine]

You started a dramatic thread on a subject that no-one really cares about and begged to be banned like some attention whore.

That's beta.

Maybe you need another bootcamp with Owen.

[The Catalyst]

[El Triste]

Here is me getting sucked off. Now ban me! I'm

[Alpharius]

(01-08-2017 07:52 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Busted out laughing when I saw this shit. Well done!

[PapayaTapper]

I bet hes Bullfucker

[CJ_W]

op is trying and failing at being little dark pt II: electric boogaloo

[Comte De St. Germain]

Just pepper OP with neutrals and post him up as an example of how not to be an autistic attention whore.

This is not high level faggotry this is wizard level faggotry.

[Alpharius]

Can't help but notice that OP wrote a small book over here

This whole things like a misplaced cry for help, not a troll job. I legit feel sorry for the guy after realizing this. It's too bad, the forum could have really helped him if he had been in the right mental place.

OP - Get your meds straight, stop whoring for attention, and don't burn future bridges that can take you where you need to go.

[El Triste]

Lol why won't they ban me

[blck]

(01-09-2017 02:15 AM)El Triste Wrote:  

Lol why won't they ban me

[Latan]

^Never watched this cook show, only a ton of parodies.
Is it any good?

[Zanardi]

I wouldn't be so harsh on RSD. They are on a different niche than we are, but the basics are the same (no wonder, since AWALT):

1. Cut watching main stream media
2. Go to the gym/ practice fighting/ sports/ etc
3. Develop confidence
4. Talk to many girls
5. Read. A lot
6. Etc.
   

Basically, be the best man you can be.

From here, interests diverge. RSD is more on one night stands and short term thinking, while RVF and ROK are more alt-right and traditionalist (which involves relationships, marriage and kids, thus long-term thinking). No wonder RSD says you don't need to judge a girl, for instance. I don't blame them. If I only want an ONS with a girl, I don't care if she has tatoos, daddy issues or her notch count. All I need is access to her, to game her. Sure, her personality and values matter much more when we are looking to start a family, but that's a different ball game.

I wouldn't consider Owen a crook. I watched (and watch) his videos from RSD Free Tour and I learned a lot from them. He doesn't speak only about game, but also about success, social conditioning and many other topics related to this subject. I learned many useful things from his videos, as much as I am learning from RVF and ROK, but on different matters and perspectives.

When I first read the red pill articles, I god a bit insecure (OK, my game is not stellar, but I know a few things about women) and my first impression was that women's are the equivalent of Hitler for mankind. Then I kept reading and I realized that if I am being and acting like a man, sooner or later only the good girls will remain.

[XPQ22]

(01-08-2017 05:39 PM)MathGuy Wrote:  

Owen Crook is the OP's inane pun on Owen Cook , the real name of RSD Tyler.

I was going to say, wouldn't trying to learn game for pay from a guy named Crook be kind of like getting gallbladder surgery from a guy named Dr. Butcher?

Or when that HB7 you're chatting with tells you her last name is Stankiewitz.

Doesn't exactly instill a feeling of confidence.

[Phoenix]

(01-09-2017 10:33 AM)Zanardi Wrote:  

I wouldn't be so harsh on RSD.

I would, and do. They do not have the same intent that we do. Their primary intent is to get ultra-expensive bootcamp signups and sell multimedia courses for profitability reasons. It's this reason that their leader is infamous for his 'looks and money don't matter' line (I also queried if that's still his position on a YouTube video, and he personally replied to affirm it in his typical childish weirdo manner). You can't sell looks and money improvement through bootcamps and multimedia because those spaces are already saturated. So focusing on nightlife approaches and routines (magic words) it was.

Contrast that with GLL & Roosh and it's not even in the same league of honest self-improvement advice.

[XPQ22]

(01-09-2017 11:28 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 10:33 AM)Zanardi Wrote:  

I wouldn't be so harsh on RSD.

I would, and do. They do not have the same intent that we do. Their primary intent is to get ultra-expensive bootcamp signups and sell multimedia courses for profitability reasons. It's this reason that their leader is infamous for his 'looks and money don't matter' line (I also queried if that's still his position on a YouTube video, and he personally replied to affirm it in his typical childish weirdo manner). You can't sell looks and money improvement through bootcamps and multimedia because those spaces are already saturated. So focusing on nightlife approaches and routines (magic words) it was.

Contrast that with GLL & Roosh and it's not even in the same league of honest self-improvement advice.

Yes, when RSD has the equivalent of a "Just Had Sex & Notch" thread where GAME GRADUATES can share results that bear some resemblance to the real experience of seeing a girl naked one time, I will certainly take them more seriously.

(01-09-2017 12:57 AM)Alpharius Wrote:  

Can't help but notice that OP wrote a small book over here

Post starts out rehashing shit everyone know, rapidly veers into wackyland.

[TornadoByProxy]

I don't think it's fair to call RSD crooks. Though I'd never need, use, or buy their products, they are very clear about what their products are. They give away tons of free content. So anyone complaining that they misrepresented themselves is confusing misrepresentation with simple disappointment.

I think the root problem, and probably OP's problem, is that not everyone can be good with women. I think RSD targets these people, as most men are socially adept enough not to need them. But I don't think it's any different than weight watchers targeting chronically obese people with promises of being fit.

[PapayaTapper]

I thought RSD was what one gets from choking one's chicken too much

[Phoenix]

(01-09-2017 01:52 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  

I don't think it's fair to call RSD crooks. Though I'd never need, use, or buy their products, they are very clear about what their products are. They give away tons of free content. So anyone complaining that they misrepresented themselves is confusing misrepresentation with simple disappointment

So do drug dealers.

When their boss makes a statement that 'looks and money don't matter', that is plain 'misrepresentation' (abject lying) for the purpose of tricking those young men into investing further into their 'magic words and behaviour that get you laid' themed products. When he posts a new video where he explicitly says "looks and money do matter, I was mistaken when I said that, but it is still true that they are only 2 factors", I'll stop calling him what I currently call him.

When normal dudes try to act like a sociopath like Julien, and end up disappointed because they're just not wired to do that naturally, and they discourage other forms of self-improvement, it certainly is a personality-cult based misleading of how a man can improve his chances of getting laid. And it's done for profit. So no-one is confused in making those assertions.

I haven't called him a crook myself, simply because I think the guy has mental issues and isn't capable of contemplating right and wrong in the first place.

(01-09-2017 01:52 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  

I think the root problem, and probably OP's problem, is that not everyone can be good with women. I think RSD targets these people, as most men are socially adept enough not to need them. But I don't think it's any different than weight watchers targeting chronically obese people with promises of being fit.

What confused stuff is this? Yes, everybody can improve their odds with women, or getting fit. And whenever misleaders like RSD get to them, their odds go down (and RSD's profits go up). They are leading young frustrated men up the garden path with their profit-centered dishonest-but-enticing bullshit, who wouldn't had better odds had they never come across them. Fuck them. I hope they get their karma. They are a shitty and misleading product with great marketing, that is all.

The good stuff comes from men who honestly give a shit about young men's plight, like GLL and Roosh. These are men who will actually feel bad if they hurt those men's chances in life by lying to them, withholding the full picture, and misleading them. It's no surprise that RSD doesn't give a shit, given their boss and star player display textbook sociopath behaviour.

[Valentine]

RSD are just like a crutch.

Whilst in the short-term you'll do better by gaining confidence from their IDGAF ideas and game routines, in the long-term your success will be limited due to their narrow focus on Game being the only pillar that determines your sexual success - ignoring the other 3 pillars of Looks, Wealth and Status.

It results in guys with atrocious looks who have to spend years developing their Game skills in order to compensate which could otherwise be fixed with a few months of gym, dieting, fashion learning and sorting out other appearance issues. It's ridiculous to ignore such low hanging fruit.

Whilst I admit a guy who looks like this will undoubtedly have some good Game advice to share he'll also tell you to keep hitting clubs every night to get a decent sexual life instead of being a normal man who just regularly goes to the gym, has a good diet and meets new women as he goes about his day. It's time-wasting, unhealthy, unfulfilling and unbalanced.

They also completely ignore the cultural and political aspects and put all the blame on the guy - it's all your fault man, you're not getting laid because your Game just isn't good enough (ignoring the fact they chose to pickup women in a shitty environment in a feminist country and they could instead be far happier in another place).

It's just all a big scam to sell their products - guys are far better served by not taking on these false beliefs as well as wasting their time and money when instead they could read the tens of thousands of free posts that has been collectively written by the manosphere.

[XPQ22]

(01-09-2017 02:30 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

When their boss makes a statement that 'looks and money don't matter', that is plain 'misrepresentation' (abject lying) for the purpose of tricking those young men into investing further into their 'magic words and behaviour that get you laid' themed products. When he posts a new video where he explicitly says "looks and money do matter, I was mistaken when I said that, but it is still true that they are only 2 factors", I'll stop calling him what I currently call him.

They start off with a premise that has some kernel of truth to it, take it to an absurd extreme, and then sell a "method" which seems logical and intuitive, except for the fact that it's derived from an incorrect set of assumptions.

PUA is not the problem intrinsically. It's not the razor, it's the razor blade.

(01-09-2017 02:30 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

When normal dudes try to act like a sociopath like Julien, and end up disappointed because they're just not wired to do that naturally, and they discourage other forms of self-improvement, it certainly is a personality-cult based misleading of how a man can improve his chances of getting laid. And it's done for profit. So no-one is confused in making those assertions.

Like all "get rich quick" schemes, application of one-size-fits-all cookie cutter methods are doomed to failure. There are no shortcuts, and no substitute for "boots on the ground" experience. Anyone who tells you differently is selling something.

If the only things a man learns from this forum are "Approach and talk to more women" and "Don't fucking overanalyze and worry about any one particular situation so much" and otherwise just does "just be yourself", he'll probably be way ahead of the curve.