[churros]

You guys whinging about haters: take a glance at the Linux thread. Now come back and tell me this is a forum that hates success.

Here is what you need to figure out. Why does Linux get nothing but props, and PC gets nothing but hate? It's not a coincidence.

[BallsDeep]

On another note, does the term "prepago" mean specifically a whore, or does it encompass everything from gold-digger to slut to full-on prostitute?

I ask because several months ago another forum member had pulled a couple girls back and I ended up with the friend, who was pretty hot. We were all having a good time and then the other guy's chick told him that mine was a prepago.

I then tried to kick them out, but mine started crying and it became a mess. Eventually the other girl tried to clarify what she meant, saying that the girl is a prepago, but not a prepago for me. We ended up banging our chicks and ubered them off in the morning.

But I never understood whether she was a full-on prostitute who gave me a freebie or if she was just a girl who had some old sugardaddy.

[tomtud]

Yes the thread has taken a detour and there is some negativity. However there is also positive criticism. i enjoy reading all posts of Colombia so please guys continue doing so.

Perhaps it was the OPs style of writing that has given off a vibe that doesn't gel with others. I dunno. I personally would tone down the talk of "money" ( penthouses, luxury trips/items) etc when in colombia and on here. Too many jealous and evil people in this world. The wrong person finds out that you've got a little extra money and it could get ugly in certain places.

All I can say is for all of us to learn from each others' mistakes and grow as individuals.

[Stakes Is High]

Quote:

You want to open an office in Medellin, which by the way is not a bad idea, but, well... I hope you will first travel there to see the place and various locations and operational details, in person... I mean, surely you won't rely only on PC's posts to make your move and settle there?

In any case, I would be interested, and undoubtedly other forum members too, if you could publish here your process of selection, the ranking of cities, ending on Medellin being the chosen city.

For example, I wonder how Medellin could beat, say Cordova or Santiago or GDL...?

Currently we have most of our outsourcers in the PI. They work remotely from Iligan, Naga, Manila, Cebu, Davao, smaller areas.. So that was our initial plan, to open in PI, Davao.

Then we decided that we have no desire to live in Asia. I speak spanish and portuguese, and my partners are currently in Brasil. Brasil (Floripa, Campinas, Curitiba) was a no go because political instability, liabilities held by employers, non-motivated workforce, and prior experience working with partners in brasil.

Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador, Peru, no interest of being a part of.. Venezuela, obviously no. Then there was Chile, Argentina, Mexico, Colombia.

Clearly GDL, DF, Santiago, BA, Bogota are the primary places to look into- there are many other 2nd tier cities we looked into. There is already lots of documented migration of foreign capital and entrepreneurs to Medellín, so that made our shortlist.

I have two passports, but other partners do not. So then we look at visa requirements, business investment amount for business residency.. Then we looked at Philippine visa requirements for our current managers to spend months on/off in our new city.

Then, we looked at universities in the cities, average administrative assistant wage, office space rental per sq/m, rental price for apartments, ability to fly between Brasil and US for commuting purposes, cost of living using numbeo and other types of calculators.

Finally we decided on Medellín because the economic and political stability, lower cost of living than comparable SA cities, and overall business environment and talent levels of potential employees. In addition to the obvious quantifiable data, my partners and I are adventurous and love living in new locations and discovering new things; hence pulling the trigger in a steadfast manner.

I was seriously pulling for Santiago, but the GDP and cost of living are simply too high to make an argument vs. Medellín.

there are rumblings that i'm blindly entering the city to expand my business solely based on PCs posts and information in this thread. Our decision was based on a multitude of business and economic factors, none having to do with PC or this thread.

[Australia Sucks]

Stakes Is High Colombians can be quite friendly (depending on the city) and Colombian women are pretty awesome overall, but after spending 6 weeks traveling Colombia I do not think its a good idea to do business there. Colombians in general have poor work ethic and are extremely short-sighted with little ambition or thought of the future. Additionally the only city in Colombia where English is somewhat widely spoken among young people is Bogota. Not to mention the backwardness of the country in general and the annoyingness of the Colombian government. You might be better off in Argentina or Chile, probably much easier to do business and find decent employees. Mexico is a business/industrial powerhouse and might be worth a look. Or if you want a backward country where the government is giving a lot of incentives, tax breaks, etc to foreign investors try Panama or Ecuador. I get why you want to try setting up in Colombia, the economy is growing, more foreigners are starting to live and or invest there, and not to mention getting more frequent access to Colombian women. However I would advise you to think twice.

[Going strong]

(05-29-2017 07:33 PM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  

Quote:

You want to open an office in Medellin, which by the way is not a bad idea, but, well... I hope you will first travel there to see the place and various locations and operational details, in person... I mean, surely you won't rely only on PC's posts to make your move and settle there?

In any case, I would be interested, and undoubtedly other forum members too, if you could publish here your process of selection, the ranking of cities, ending on Medellin being the chosen city.

For example, I wonder how Medellin could beat, say Cordova or Santiago or GDL...?

Currently we have most of our outsourcers in the PI. They work remotely from Iligan, Naga, Manila, Cebu, Davao, smaller areas.. So that was our initial plan, to open in PI, Davao.

Then we decided that we have no desire to live in Asia. I speak spanish and portuguese, and my partners are currently in Brasil. Brasil (Floripa, Campinas, Curitiba) was a no go because political instability, liabilities held by employers, non-motivated workforce, and prior experience working with partners in brasil.

Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador, Peru, no interest of being a part of.. Venezuela, obviously no. Then there was Chile, Argentina, Mexico, Colombia.

Clearly GDL, DF, Santiago, BA, Bogota are the primary places to look into- there are many other 2nd tier cities we looked into. There is already lots of documented migration of foreign capital and entrepreneurs to Medellín, so that made our shortlist.

I have two passports, but other partners do not. So then we look at visa requirements, business investment amount for business residency.. Then we looked at Philippine visa requirements for our current managers to spend months on/off in our new city.

Then, we looked at universities in the cities, average administrative assistant wage, office space rental per sq/m, rental price for apartments, ability to fly between Brasil and US for commuting purposes, cost of living using numbeo and other types of calculators.

Finally we decided on Medellín because the economic and political stability, lower cost of living than comparable SA cities, and overall business environment and talent levels of potential employees. In addition to the obvious quantifiable data, my partners and I are adventurous and love living in new locations and discovering new things; hence pulling the trigger in a steadfast manner.

I was seriously pulling for Santiago, but the GDP and cost of living are simply too high to make an argument vs. Medellín.

there are rumblings that i'm blindly entering the city to expand my business solely based on PCs posts and information in this thread. Our decision was based on a multitude of business and economic factors, none having to do with PC or this thread.

Thanks for this interesting and detailed answer. I do not doubt that you seriously researched the subject, before reaching a reasonable decision...
by the way, maybe you could post here a nice datasheet (even starting a thread?), from your comparative studies, described above. It would be of interest for many business-oriented and like yourself, adventurous readers, I guess...

[Stakes Is High]

@goingstrong

if you're interested in this type of information, i suggest checking out sovereignman.com. the site's free newsletter is good and the membership includes a wealth of knowledge for international business types, plentiful reports on: international tax implications and safe-havens, political and economic rankings, alternative money storage methods...

@australiablows

In my experience, the majority of potential employees in south america are in extreme deficiency in long term goal orientation, work ethic, and loyalty. This can be tedious to overcome, but it means intense screening, testing for grasping power, and a mentality of slow to hire, yet quick to fire.

Brasil is currently the market we deliver services in south america, so naturally we would choose Campinas as our hub... past experience shows that employers essentially are indebted to employees once they are hired and there is extreme liability to be held in this regard.

You mentioned Argentina and Chile..

The one category that Chile blows the others out of the water is in economic freedom and property rights. Definitely the strongest SA country in this regard, and it shows in the overall gdp of the country. While this combination makes it a favorable location, it ends up in high wages for run-of-the-mill employees, in terms of salary cost.

While I was pulling for Santiago myself (or Mendoza), the final determination for Medellín was this: cost of living. As this metric is extremely heavily-weighted, it routinely skewed towards Medellín:

Cost of Living Comparison:
Medellín vs Santiago
Medellín vs Mendoza
Medellín vs Buenos Aires
Medellín vs Cordoba

Medellín ranks favorable among all cost of living groups except for local purchasing power, which directly results in the costs of all products/services in Colombia to be lower across the board.

Benefits of Foreign Income
We generate usd and brl so cop does not factor into the equation. In fact, its generally better because if the cop remains low, further investment into the country will yield more value on a usd basis.

It's important to note that while Colombian purchasing power is lower than all comparable cities, the quality of life is generally equal to other cities.

Quality of Life Comparison:
Medellín vs BA

Overall it seems (without having been to Colombia) that the lower cop creates a better investment opportunity and allows for foreign funds to travel further. That being said, this lower purchasing power should normally predict a lower quality of life; which is not the case in Medellín.

In Medellín, you can blend foreign banking structures, receive resident visas for a modest sum, you can be safe, receive quality healthcare, and have access to some of the top broads in all of all south america. Bingo, winner.

[newgame]

(05-31-2017 02:13 AM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  

In Medellín, you can blend foreign banking structures, receive resident visas for a modest sum, you can be safe, receive quality healthcare, and have access to some of the top broads in all of all south america. Bingo, winner.

I don't think Colombia is very business friendly; I certainly wouldn't choose Medellin or Colombia to base my internet business as a US citizen. As a US citizen you can also be taxed on worldwide income and Colombia has a tight relationship with the US, meaning that if they don't currently share income information they probably will soon. Also, Colombia along with the US is one of the few countries that taxes on worldwide income, so if you base your company in Colombia and you are a resident here you could potentially be taxed for income elsewhere.

Although Colombians have low wages comparatively, they have costly benefits (social security and the most paid holidays in the world http://www.portafolio.co/tendencias/colo...o-144006). The education level and work ethic is actually pretty poor and due to the competition of the increasing startup culture in Medellin you're likely to pay more than you're expecting for a good employee.

I'd highly recommend you spend some time in Medellin speaking with other entrepreneurs before relocating.

[Going strong]

(05-31-2017 02:13 AM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  

Quality of Life Comparison:
Medellín vs BA

The Numbeo Quality of Life Comparison between BsAs and MDL, is quite a joke, though... look at that:
"Safety IndexModerateMDL 51.38 - BsAsLow37.67"

I mean, MDL being like 50% safer than BsAs? Sure...

You can do business in BsAs, nobody will kill or kidnap you (I assume you won't be doing business in Fuerte Apache?). Now, in MDL, I don't know... the city seems pretty safe indeed for low-key travelers (even though I am sometimes tense in taxis, there), but for new-in-town foreign businessmen... if you make enemies...

I mean, I have been told by reliable friends in MDL that if you piss someone off (in MDL), you could get killed for 100 usd (say 500, sicario inflation and all). But in BsAs, even then-president Cristina couldn't pull a clean hit on Nisman... only people murdered in BsAs are Nisman, Candela, and assorted drug dealers (ephedrine included, whatever this shit is). You wouldn't get targeted.

To sum it up, if you really don't have enough money for BsAs or Santiago, do go to MDL. But if you can afford Argentina or Chile, go there... my two cents.

[Stakes Is High]

you all are bringing up good points.. definitely worth looking at twice.

[tomtud]

If shit hits the fan as the saying goes, could you take out your money as fast as possible? I just met a Brazilian guy the other day who said corruption in his country is ridiculous. Same can be said for most. Being internet based, you can have remote offices in various parts of the world I imagine.

[Prince Charming]

Ive been gaming hard since Im back in Toronto.

Some comparisons to Medellin while they are fresh

Banged 4 girls on first dates in the last 2 weeks. Thats from about 30 dates in two weeks and 506 numbers I got from online pipelining. Over all girls have been harder to close. They are less flaky and more punctual though which has allowed me to see 4 girls a day instead of max 3 in colombia.

Some shit that worked in Colombia such as saying 'Im popular all around the world' when girls ask if I have many gfs in the city, comes off too try hard here and had to dropped

Being able to game in english again has made things so much easier but I did blow myself out with one girl I wanted for talking to much shit for my entertainment.

I have adapted the hot flaky paisa frame to use on girls here and its been working very well. Got a new phone too which has made things sooo much easier. And I have a great organizational method thats allowed me to game many many girls with minimal time investment. I started using whatsapp voice messages instead of calling with good results

Fucked up with one girl I wanted on the second date. She is very quite and didnt kiss back when I kissed her and things fizzled out. Not sure what to do but I want to turn this around.

Really hit it off with this super hot 19yo black girl though. Her only serious relationship has been with a girl so we are going to a lesbian club on sat to pull some sluts =)

and then pride is next week. Good times ahead lol

[Sidney Crosby]

Staying the summer in Toronto?

[Prince Charming]

Yes I am. I gamed super hard when I got back here though and id say my game is at a life time best right now. So my gf got put on the back burner and Im currently trying to juggle 12 steady girls so not much time for anything else

[jason0825]

Question. Gonna be in Medellin for several months and want to game hard. Online and Daygame especially. Curious what you guys have found to work best for Daygame.

I've seen some of you say direct with contact close, to get a fuck ton of contacts cuz these girls flake hard, and basically be persistent cuz they often show up eventually?

Super curious about both Daygame and how u guys are getting girls out here. I wanna crush it while I'm here.

Thanks

J

[Razors Edge]

Just when you think this thread is finally going to go away....... in rolls Jason.