[Fortis]

I do fully understand that guys are (rightfully) worried about culture. I love living where I live but I sometimes do wonder if I'll ever truly be able to understand the people here.

The only reason i've been poking so much fun in this thread is because an obvious truth has been skipped way too often. We apply this truth when it comes time for game, but guys are selectively blind to it when it comes to their relationships and family life.

If some stranger sat down next to you on a train and said, "Hi, i'm Chris and my son is a fuck up and my marriage failed"

and you said, "uh ok, why?"

and he said, "because my wife and I don't share the same culture." What would you think? I'd be with Jordan on this one.



Seriously, would you take this dude at his word and believe him? I sure as fuck wouldn't. I'd be thinking to myself, "this guy is a loser and I feel sorry for his wife for picking so poorly."

I'm not saying you should ignore culture, because it is important. If you don't like your wife's culture then you don't like your wife, but we are still accountable in this situations, especially if your wife and your wife's family are willing to work with you.

I have a cousin who has happa/black kids. Their daughters speak 4 languages and aren't even 20 yet and they are probably way smarter than most 16-year-olds. That didn't just work because of "culture," nope. They worked hard on their daughters and their daughters will probably be doing well moving into young adulthood and beyond.

I suppose I do have some stock in this battle because I am black and hispanic, but I'd say one thing that you can do to keep your kids from going nuts is to make sure that they don't have to "pick a side."

Really, who gives a flying fuck if your kid identifies more as asian, black or white or whatever. The Bottomline is that they should feel good about themselves. Teach your son game, make sure he's a good student, teach him how to pick solid friends, get him some boxing lessons, make sure he's involved in things that help him build an identity as "that guy" instead of as "that (race) guy." No one is gonna give a shit about your son's race when he's cool, confident and happy. They'll be too busy mirin'.

People only worry about "what they are" when their self-esteem is fucked up. They start hitting an indentity crisis because they don't have anything else to feel good about so at least they can feel good about being half-white or half-black or whatever. I have a lot of happa friends back home and the ones who are cool as fuck NEVER talk about their race. I only know because I asked. THey don't complain about it and their families don't make a big deal about it either.

[Rob Banks]

(12-30-2016 09:47 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I do fully understand that guys are (rightfully) worried about culture. I love living where I live but I sometimes do wonder if I'll ever truly be able to understand the people here.

The only reason i've been poking so much fun in this thread is because an obvious truth has been skipped way too often. We apply this truth when it comes time for game, but guys are selectively blind to it when it comes to their relationships and family life.

If some stranger sat down next to you on a train and said, "Hi, i'm Chris and my son is a fuck up and my marriage failed"

and you said, "uh ok, why?"

and he said, "because my wife and I don't share the same culture." What would you think? I'd be with Jordan on this one.



Seriously, would you take this dude at his word and believe him? I sure as fuck wouldn't. I'd be thinking to myself, "this guy is a loser and I feel sorry for his wife for picking so poorly."

I'm not saying you should ignore culture, because it is important. If you don't like your wife's culture then you don't like your wife, but we are still accountable in this situations, especially if your wife and your wife's family are willing to work with you.

Well I never said anything implying that you could not have a successful marriage with someone of a different race. Obviously, if your marriage falls apart and your kid is a fuck up, you can't really blame it on your wife being from a different culture.

I would never tell a guy "don't marry outside your race." That is a decision that every man needs to make for himself. All I am saying is that cultural and genetic similarity are things you should consider when looking for a wife, just like you consider other things, such as her beauty, her physical health, her sexual past, her family, etc.

It is not "racist" to want to marry someone genetically similar to you. In fact, I believe it is in our nature (i.e. our subconscious, natural instincts) to be more attracted to men/women genetically similar to ourselves. That being said, I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with marrying outside your race and having mixed-race children. It is simply a personal decision that every man has to make for himself.

[jselysianeagle]

For half-white, half-asian daughters, there's not much to worry about in the US or any western country.

For half-white, half-asian guys, they're still significantly better off than their full-asian counterparts. Also, if they happen to be tall and extroverted, they're "almost white" which is good enough for many women.

In short, if you plan on staying in a western country, you probably don't have too much to worry about. Just make sure that if you have a half-asian son, he doesn't turn out like Eliot Rodger :-p

[StrikeBack]

This obsession with extroversion and height is a limiting belief. I'm 5'7" and introverted, I do just fine. I like long legs and long legs like me, I'll be damned if I let myself get in the way of those lovely things. My wife is taller than me at 5'8", many white girls I dated in the past are taller than me, one is a 6'1" Swede and likes to wear a bit of heels. One of them who still has the hots for me is a 5'10" yoga teacher and makes my wife jelly from time to time when we bump into her at a social event.

My uncles who did very well in Eastern Europe and are married to beautiful women are only 5'4", and their wives are taller than them.

Frankly it never occurred to us that our height is an issue. The paranoid mentality some guys have about height is way worse than any issue the actual lack of height will cause him. I've run into guys who are 5'11" who wish they were 6'+ because they think they're still too short. They know all the "research" studies about height vs success and can quote all the stats to you, but that only gets them further and further away from real pussies because of their revolting lack of confidence in themselves. Up there I saw someone quoting stats about Asian genes having a couple of cm less than white in inheriting heights or some nerdy shit, that right there is overanalysis that hinders rather than helps.

If you want to father successful sons, stop overanalysing the stats and social science crap (which is often anti-social and anti-science), and teach your sons Game and how to be a masculine man. Race, height, extroversion/introversion etc. like all things they cannot change are just distractions. Having a perfect looking son with the right race, height, education etc. without Game can easily be a huge disappointment even heart break, when he gets played by some whore i.e the "Rich Famous Men Still Get Played" threads on this site.

[John Michael Kane]

(12-31-2016 12:24 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

This obsession with extroversion and height is a limiting belief. I'm 5'7" and introverted, I do just fine. I like long legs and long legs like me, I'll be damned if I let myself get in the way of those lovely things. My wife is taller than me at 5'8", many white girls I dated in the past are taller than me, one is a 6'1" Swede and likes to wear a bit of heels. One of them who still has the hots for me is a 5'10" yoga teacher and makes my wife jelly from time to time when we bump into her at a social event.

Right on, once again.

One of the most successful ladies men I've ever met was this little 5'5" Mexican dude. In his early 40's, not particularly handsome, bald head that was shaved and a bit of a belly. I'd say somewhere between an introvert and an extrovert, depending upon how his mood struck him.

Still, when he wanted to turn on the charm, he had it in spades in spite of him being anything but conventually handsome (not tall, not good looking, not really fit, etc.) What he lacked in those departments, he more than made up for in confidence and humor.

Short or shorter men can do just fine with women, but many of them have self-limiting beliefs that become truisms once internalized.

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My uncles who did very well in Eastern Europe and are married to beautiful women are only 5'4", and their wives are taller than them.

Shorter men with balls to bust a move beat average or taller guys who do not, every time. In fact, I'd say that shorter men with a high degree of confidence is actually somewhat of a turn on for a woman. She expects a shorter man to be insecure, and if he breaks her preconceived notions of what a "short man" is, it can jolt her out of her loop. Your uncles busted a move, and the rest is history.

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Frankly it never occurred to us that our height is an issue. The paranoid mentality some guys have about height is way worse than any issue the actual lack of height will cause him. I've run into guys who are 5'11" who wish they were 6'+ because they think they're still too short. They know all the "research" studies about height vs success and can quote all the stats to you, but that only gets them further and further away from real pussies because of their revolting lack of confidence in themselves. Up there I saw someone quoting stats about Asian genes having a couple of cm less than white in inheriting heights or some nerdy shit, that right there is overanalysis that hinders rather than helps.

I'm 6'2" and with a slender to moderate build. While I have the height, for many years prior to hitting the gym I was only 155 lbs, which at 6'2" is pretty damn skinny. I could have always said, no woman will want me because my chest isn't wide enough or my wrists are skinnier than hers, etc. Everyone can find self-fulfilling prophecies of failure as an excuse not to improve, or worse yet, even try.

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If you want to father successful sons, stop over analyzing the stats and social science crap (which is often anti-social and anti-science), and teach your sons Game and how to be a masculine man. Race, height, extroversion/introversion etc. like all things they cannot change are just distractions. Having a perfect looking son with the right race, height, education etc. without Game can easily be a huge disappointment even heart break, when he gets played by some whore i.e the "Rich Famous Men Still Get Played" threads on this site.

Money right here. With Cultural Marxists running most social sciences, you can can't on biased results often being baked into the cake. Not worth much stock. Pain attention to the timeless wisdom of the male stoics, early Church Fathers, the Bible, and the rest of the Great Books for Men Collection. Combined with weight training, public speaking and other masculine activities, no son should turn out to be a limp-wristed failure if you've done your job as a father.

[CJ_W]

(12-28-2016 01:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Lots of speculation but this is actually an easy topic.

If you want to race mix without your children suffering negative consequences, you need to use your race to your advantage. No slumming it.

So if you're a White guy seeking children with non-Whites, you should be punching anywhere from 1-3 points higher than your same race equivalent depending on the race. I would say, as a White man, if you're dating...

...a Hispanic woman, at least 1 point higher.
...an Asian woman, at least 2 points higher.
...a Black woman, at least 3 points higher.

In my experience if you follow that guide, your mixed race kids will be so attractive no one cares about their race. Beauty trumps all. Elliot Rodgers was the product of a pretty average looking Chinese woman. The Dad slummed it, was an absent father, and Eliot paid the price.

And by the way, it works in reverse with White women as well. How frequently do you see Black men dating White women 2 points or more below their own race value? Asian guys I rarely see with White chicks unless they are very successful, but they can still get Black chicks at above market value or other Asian women at equal value (from Asia). Same shit with Hispanic men, punching a bit below their weight just for the coveted White genes.

At the end of the day, since Whites attract the most attractive of all races, what tends to happen is a great merging of attractive people into one giant K-selected super race... with skin that gets lighter and lighter over time. I've seen this process occur in my Middle Eastern half of the family. We've been race mixing for God knows how long, centuries at least, all sorts of colors in my family, and yet White phenotypes are everywhere.

The White phenotype is highly desirable, there's no way to sugar coat it, so if you have it you gotta leverage it.

I somewhat agree with this actually. Id like to add something else as well because I think it goes a LOT further than what you mention Samseau., As a foreigner, if you want to have mixed children, in addition to this(what Samseau said), youd BETTER have a lot of money, period. Why? So that you can send your children to the BEST private schools. A lot of these schools are filled with mixed children who have parents who are loaded. Being a person who is loaded and sending your kid here, he or she will have a lot less problems, and more chances to network.

If you have money, its most likely through your own type of business, so teach your kid how to run that business or teach him how to build his own - yes Im using masculine pronouns because you want your SON to be able to make money on his own and be anti-fragile, while teaching him about women.

For a daughter, you want to do the same but try to find some type of finishing school (they exist for people of higher income brackets) so that your daughter can find a good husband, and have kids ASAP (to avoid the whole getting bored of her man bit, she cant get bored and want to divorce a man if she married a man who is well off and bears 3 kids for him.) Arguably, raising a half daughter can either be easy or extremely hard. We on the forums here all know why so I dont need to get into that (if you dont know, then you need to lurk on the forums more.)

Next, if you really want to do this, you need to find a country that would be the most receptive to half people. . .so China would obviously be out of the question. Not your fault, its theirs, your money and job creating prowess would go a long way in China to benefit the Chinese (this is if you followed the tenet of being rich before starting a half family)but your child will most likely suffer from living there, so they dont really deserve it. China is a bit TOO far right on many things in my opinion. . .Just like the States is also too far left.
Countries that are good for raising half kids as per the previous tenets would be:
Japan**. The Japanese are SUPRISINGLY fair towards half people and even consider them Japanese before anything else, hell you can even be famous if you are an attractive enough half person, i.e.Rola https://www.instagram.com/rolaofficial/?hl=en Her father is Nepali and her Mother is half Russian and Japanese, yet shes pretty much the queen of Japan in terms of popularity, and this is pretty much based solely on her looks and her fathers foresight* to put her up for modelling. . .

The father got really lucky(so far, read the fine print), as he was not rich. . .he actually has a criminal record in Japan. Of course here on RvF we are about control over your life, not hoping to get lucky.

Another country would suprisingly be Vientnam. I have met quite a few Vietnamese people, in vietnam, and in Japan through social circle mostly and I have met a few half Vietnamese people and they seem well adjusted, and not nearly as racist as other Asian countries.

Last country would be Singapore. Singapore is ALL about money and business. If you have both, you and your children can expect to live pretty well.

If this isnt an option, then I would suggest either NOT having kids overseas in asia, or just bring them back to your home country. . .however if your home country has divorce laws like in the U.S. Then you obviously cant do that.

Now obviously all of this is if you want to get the best possible family out of this, with the least chance of trouble/trauma for your kids. You can do away with all of this and just hope for the best and hope that your Frame is ETERNALLY strong enough to keep your women AND your kids in check. So that you can guide them to a good life. Or you could just throw caution to the wind and hope your kids figure out what works for them. Either is fine, but its up to you as to weather YOU want to do the hard work to ensure your kids grow up to be well adjusted and happy, or whether or not you want your KIDS to do all the work to figure everything out on their own and go through all of the pitfalls, and possibly fail at it.

Now this doesnt mean that Im against interacial anything, Im not. Its just as a black man that would eventually like to have kids at some point(later in life of course), I have put a lot of thought into this, and I realize that some places are just NOT conducive to this AT ALL. and Some are with a lot of preparation. Hell, even native peoples of all of these countries dont have it good in regards to raising kids either, they may have it better than we do in the states since feminism isnt there, but there are other problems they deal with that we dont have. So, really, its all relative. It is good to prepare yourself and be realistic about what your kids will have to go through, and how youll guide them. Id say to the op, think about it for a long time, do a lot of research, and make your decisions after.


*Fine Print I astrisked this because usually in the modelling/tv/movie/singing industry pretty much anywhere, requires women to use the casting couch, and in some cases undergo some of that at an extremely young age, as well as getting into drugs through these execs that could potentially fuck them up for life, so going down this road is a H U G E risk that I would not allow any of my kids to go down, no matter the country or circumstance. Just look up Corey feldman and corey heim, the Fappening (how do you think Jennifer Lawrence got so famous so fast? one of her pictures is Literally naked on an expensive looking couch most likely in some studio execs house . . .this is why it was a big deal those pics were released, but most people didnt realise this and just want to Jack off over the pics. . .but thats another subject for another thread) Basically, doing this will throw your kid to the wolves and that kid has to be EXTREMELY lucky to not only navigate unscathed (as in not forced to dick ride as a female/get molested as a male) but then has to get famous and STAY famous, and STAY clean from drugs(when kid stars get in with those evil people I mentioned, they often get them hooked on drugs as well. . .why do you think there are so many celebrity drug overdoses?) and have the brains to a)not blow their fortune and grow it instead (as a man) or b) do the same thing AND marry a good husband with his own money AND have a few kids ASAP to prevent boredom AND make sure that husband is beta and wont beat her/become an alcoholic/drug addict/etc.etc. The odds of everything happening well are very very slim, hell most native actors/singers dont get that chance.

**Fine Print II: One caveat about Japan is that, yes you have to be rich here, more so than any of the other countries, including Singapore, why? because you want to give your wife 3-4 kids, Why? well because your kids in Japan arent YOUR kids, they are you WIFES kids, and your wife can take those kids away anytime either through divorce or just whisking them away, and you can do nothing about it, this happens to Japanese men too, most notably, Junichiro Koizumi, Prime minister during the Bush Era, his wife divorced him and took his kids and he had been unable to meet them ever since. . .this was the PRIME MINISTER of the freaking country (Japan has laws that support this) While there may not be any divorce rape, you will lose your children in a divorce, SO you want to have money AND give the wife a few kids as insurance from just up and leaving you (she and her family would be absolutely destitute if she took your 3-4 kids away without your monetary support)
This again, requires money, along with being extremely red pill.


Fine Print III: There are also issues with kids being in international schools with other rich kids as well, mostly being spoiled and being around bratty kids who will most likely get into hard drugs at some point, so on THIS point, you have to be EXTRA vigilant as a parent if you want your kids to turn out right. This is also a point that people overlook. So, basically. . .regular parenting on TOP of all the preparation you need to do.

[Cage]

stupid idea to begin with

[GeneralMacDaddy]

(01-02-2017 02:20 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 01:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Lots of speculation but this is actually an easy topic.

If you want to race mix without your children suffering negative consequences, you need to use your race to your advantage. No slumming it.

So if you're a White guy seeking children with non-Whites, you should be punching anywhere from 1-3 points higher than your same race equivalent depending on the race. I would say, as a White man, if you're dating...

...a Hispanic woman, at least 1 point higher.
...an Asian woman, at least 2 points higher.
...a Black woman, at least 3 points higher.

In my experience if you follow that guide, your mixed race kids will be so attractive no one cares about their race. Beauty trumps all. Elliot Rodgers was the product of a pretty average looking Chinese woman. The Dad slummed it, was an absent father, and Eliot paid the price.

And by the way, it works in reverse with White women as well. How frequently do you see Black men dating White women 2 points or more below their own race value? Asian guys I rarely see with White chicks unless they are very successful, but they can still get Black chicks at above market value or other Asian women at equal value (from Asia). Same shit with Hispanic men, punching a bit below their weight just for the coveted White genes.

At the end of the day, since Whites attract the most attractive of all races, what tends to happen is a great merging of attractive people into one giant K-selected super race... with skin that gets lighter and lighter over time. I've seen this process occur in my Middle Eastern half of the family. We've been race mixing for God knows how long, centuries at least, all sorts of colors in my family, and yet White phenotypes are everywhere.

The White phenotype is highly desirable, there's no way to sugar coat it, so if you have it you gotta leverage it.

I somewhat agree with this actually. Id like to add something else as well because I think it goes a LOT further than what you mention Samseau., As a foreigner, if you want to have mixed children, in addition to this(what Samseau said), youd BETTER have a lot of money, period. Why? So that you can send your children to the BEST private schools. A lot of these schools are filled with mixed children who have parents who are loaded. Being a person who is loaded and sending your kid here, he or she will have a lot less problems, and more chances to network.

If you have money, its most likely through your own type of business, so teach your kid how to run that business or teach him how to build his own - yes Im using masculine pronouns because you want your SON to be able to make money on his own and be anti-fragile, while teaching him about women.

For a daughter, you want to do the same but try to find some type of finishing school (they exist for people of higher income brackets) so that your daughter can find a good husband, and have kids ASAP (to avoid the whole getting bored of her man bit, she cant get bored and want to divorce a man if she married a man who is well off and bears 3 kids for him.) Arguably, raising a half daughter can either be easy or extremely hard. We on the forums here all know why so I dont need to get into that (if you dont know, then you need to lurk on the forums more.)

Next, if you really want to do this, you need to find a country that would be the most receptive to half people. . .so China would obviously be out of the question. Not your fault, its theirs, your money and job creating prowess would go a long way in China to benefit the Chinese (this is if you followed the tenet of being rich before starting a half family)but your child will most likely suffer from living there, so they dont really deserve it. China is a bit TOO far right on many things in my opinion. . .Just like the States is also too far left.
Countries that are good for raising half kids as per the previous tenets would be:
Japan**. The Japanese are SUPRISINGLY fair towards half people and even consider them Japanese before anything else, hell you can even be famous if you are an attractive enough half person, i.e.Rola https://www.instagram.com/rolaofficial/?hl=en Her father is Nepali and her Mother is half Russian and Japanese, yet shes pretty much the queen of Japan in terms of popularity, and this is pretty much based solely on her looks and her fathers foresight* to put her up for modelling. . .

The father got really lucky(so far, read the fine print), as he was not rich. . .he actually has a criminal record in Japan. Of course here on RvF we are about control over your life, not hoping to get lucky.

Another country would suprisingly be Vientnam. I have met quite a few Vietnamese people, in vietnam, and in Japan through social circle mostly and I have met a few half Vietnamese people and they seem well adjusted, and not nearly as racist as other Asian countries.

Last country would be Singapore. Singapore is ALL about money and business. If you have both, you and your children can expect to live pretty well.

If this isnt an option, then I would suggest either NOT having kids overseas in asia, or just bring them back to your home country. . .however if your home country has divorce laws like in the U.S. Then you obviously cant do that.

Now obviously all of this is if you want to get the best possible family out of this, with the least chance of trouble/trauma for your kids. You can do away with all of this and just hope for the best and hope that your Frame is ETERNALLY strong enough to keep your women AND your kids in check. So that you can guide them to a good life. Or you could just throw caution to the wind and hope your kids figure out what works for them. Either is fine, but its up to you as to weather YOU want to do the hard work to ensure your kids grow up to be well adjusted and happy, or whether or not you want your KIDS to do all the work to figure everything out on their own and go through all of the pitfalls, and possibly fail at it.

Now this doesnt mean that Im against interacial anything, Im not. Its just as a black man that would eventually like to have kids at some point(later in life of course), I have put a lot of thought into this, and I realize that some places are just NOT conducive to this AT ALL. and Some are with a lot of preparation. Hell, even native peoples of all of these countries dont have it good in regards to raising kids either, they may have it better than we do in the states since feminism isnt there, but there are other problems they deal with that we dont have. So, really, its all relative. It is good to prepare yourself and be realistic about what your kids will have to go through, and how youll guide them. Id say to the op, think about it for a long time, do a lot of research, and make your decisions after.


*Fine Print I astrisked this because usually in the modelling/tv/movie/singing industry pretty much anywhere, requires women to use the casting couch, and in some cases undergo some of that at an extremely young age, as well as getting into drugs through these execs that could potentially fuck them up for life, so going down this road is a H U G E risk that I would not allow any of my kids to go down, no matter the country or circumstance. Just look up Corey feldman and corey heim, the Fappening (how do you think Jennifer Lawrence got so famous so fast? one of her pictures is Literally naked on an expensive looking couch most likely in some studio execs house . . .this is why it was a big deal those pics were released, but most people didnt realise this and just want to Jack off over the pics. . .but thats another subject for another thread) Basically, doing this will throw your kid to the wolves and that kid has to be EXTREMELY lucky to not only navigate unscathed (as in not forced to dick ride as a female/get molested as a male) but then has to get famous and STAY famous, and STAY clean from drugs(when kid stars get in with those evil people I mentioned, they often get them hooked on drugs as well. . .why do you think there are so many celebrity drug overdoses?) and have the brains to a)not blow their fortune and grow it instead (as a man) or b) do the same thing AND marry a good husband with his own money AND have a few kids ASAP to prevent boredom AND make sure that husband is beta and wont beat her/become an alcoholic/drug addict/etc.etc. The odds of everything happening well are very very slim, hell most native actors/singers dont get that chance.

**Fine Print II: One caveat about Japan is that, yes you have to be rich here, more so than any of the other countries, including Singapore, why? because you want to give your wife 3-4 kids, Why? well because your kids in Japan arent YOUR kids, they are you WIFES kids, and your wife can take those kids away anytime either through divorce or just whisking them away, and you can do nothing about it, this happens to Japanese men too, most notably, Junichiro Koizumi, Prime minister during the Bush Era, his wife divorced him and took his kids and he had been unable to meet them ever since. . .this was the PRIME MINISTER of the freaking country (Japan has laws that support this) While there may not be any divorce rape, you will lose your children in a divorce, SO you want to have money AND give the wife a few kids as insurance from just up and leaving you (she and her family would be absolutely destitute if she took your 3-4 kids away without your monetary support)
This again, requires money, along with being extremely red pill.


Fine Print III: There are also issues with kids being in international schools with other rich kids as well, mostly being spoiled and being around bratty kids who will most likely get into hard drugs at some point, so on THIS point, you have to be EXTRA vigilant as a parent if you want your kids to turn out right. This is also a point that people overlook. So, basically. . .regular parenting on TOP of all the preparation you need to do.

Interesting topic for sure! A few good points by CJ_W, I think especially regarding schooling. For those of us in Asia, having kids and settling down here to raise kids is certainly a real possibility and its good to consider what that may entail.

As for Korea, I have mixed feelings. So far I have met and gotten to know well two half white / half koreans here, both living here after growing up in the states. In both cases they have been absolutely killing it here, business and girl wise. Part of it is certainly that they speak Korean fluently, this is really a must in Korea especially. They are exotic but enough but also (from what it seems) accepted and if they have the language, they seem to blend right in for the most part and many people are interested in what they have going on. If anything they seem to get a lot more attention and opportunity then your standard Korean guy so it seems like it could be a plus.

I have also met a bitter one, who was also half Korea / half white and he hated his life, couldn't speak Korean, and just seemed unhappy in general. He had a hard time getting an English speaking gig, as he looked "too asian". Anyway, like others have been saying I don't think his miserable outlook on life was just because he was hapa, probably many other factors but I didn't get to know him well enough to find out.

Despite what others have said about the extreme prejudice here in Korea, I think its getting a bit better and I see no reason why a mixed child wouldn't fit in here, especially if you raise them here and they speak native Korean. Language ability goes so far here.

If I ever do decide to impregnate a Korean gal, I may consider staying here to raise my family. Relatively clean (except for the damn Chinese SMOG / dust which is getting worse), safe, growing country with strong family values is not a bad way to go at all. Plus feminism hasn't really infected this place (yet), divorce is still relatively rare, and its possible to get a passport eventually if you want it.

Or we'll just go to Hawaii to chill with Kona where hapas rule the land!

[Svara]

(12-26-2016 10:40 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Background (Wife Search Abroad): thread-50002.html
Side note (Tips on picking up Hapa women): thread-11612.html

As discussed in the thread above, many Western men are searching outside of the USA, Canada and Europe for a more traditional and stable woman to be their wife, plus the future mother of their children. Asian women of different countries are often discussed. (Chinese, Vietnamese, Vietnamese, etc.)

I've been in relationships with Chinese and Filipinas before, and can confirm the more traditional ones can make excellent wives. Vietnamese women seem very balance in terms of hard working attitudes but also balanced outlook, with respect of husband and family being key cultural traits.

Assuming I, or any other white man, falls in love with some Asian girl, gets married and has kids, obviously they are going to be half-white and half-Asian, or hapa. It is my concern that seeing the East and West are obviously two very different sets of cultures, that children from these marriages could suffer an identity crisis.

Here's some food for thought:

This hapa guy has a whole channel dedicated to complaining about how Asian women like dating white men. He has a tremendous self-loathing. In some of his videos he goes to suggest that half-white, half-Asian men are prone to becoming Elliot Rodgers types. His videos are cringe-worthy, but I watched a few to get into his mindset:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbb8juYENmM

This guy has made a video reply about this thread:

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(12-30-2016 12:00 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I never knew until recently that Eddie Van Halen is a hapa. His mom is Indonesian. Here he is with his parents (and brother Alex):



Kirk Hammett from Metallica is a halfie too (Filipino mother).

His mother is Indo-Dutch, with a lot of Asian blood:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo_people

I also descend from some Hapa's that lived in the 19th century. Although people barely see it anymore, some notice my 'Asian' features. Also my skin and hair color are just a bit more tan than full Europeans. I would like to marry a 25% Indo girl to not make my kids 'too white'. I am perceived as white but if I go with a white girl the Indo genes will decrease again..