Quote: (12-25-2016 01:26 PM)Surreyman Wrote:
Quote: (12-24-2016 11:02 PM)R_Niko Wrote:
Toronto's pretty bad
It is, but once you leave downtown it's a lot more normal. Also, there are tons of foreign women in Toronto.
These points are moot.
If the tree is rotting, the tree is dying.
Toronto is a dating market that would seem that North American cities mature and then decay into at their worst.
I don't want this post to turn into a typical Toronto rant. More so just the highlight the levels of thirst and the overall decay of the sexual marketplace here. My theory for a while is that this is what North American cities mature into at their worst and as cities elsewhere progressively get worse they will start to mirror what is happening in Toronto currently more and more.
If other North America and West cities were like Toronto men would be jumping off buildings. My personal belief is that Canadian kindness keeps men polite here, but also the large ethnic makeup of the city makes the dark underbelly of all this taboo. One can also add to that the mixture of the ultra feminist tropes of the city that empower female sexuality over a male, plus the large gay population here which clouds people's general perception of excessive male sexual activity. The activities happening in that gay scene is in its world largely divorced for the straight population aside from those men that double dip, but people mistake it for overt sexuality for men as a whole here in Toronto which is simply incorrect.
Some of the shenanigans I see happen here only occur in entire dystopian dating markets in the developing world. Think of brazen cash for access in Lagos where a woman won't even sit down for a drink with you unless you pay here, or Mullah mileage in Saudi Arabia where ultra rich men horde women wall the masses of men go sexless, or like in China with women with so many options the demand everything at each step of the courting interaction as they have all the leverage in their youth. Those places are at their extremes, but you get subtle doses of such things here in Toronto which has no place being here in the West.
To lead now into the thirst present here in Toronto. I will just say it bluntly that the majority of men here get no action. The proofs of this start to creep up if you turn over the rotting word and you see the worms of all the sexual sub-services such as Sugar Daddies, P4P, Massage parlours and Cam Girls which all have blown up to cater to these sexless men here. I have never seen such a subversive level of massage and p4p in a city in my life. Say what you want about Vegas, but it is all just window dressing, it is many times much easier to find a whore here in Toronto. Hell, you will meet whores casually while out about gaming and socialising. The men on RVF complain about Toronto, and we practice game, what about the millions of men in Toronto who don't? Blue balls for them.
Here is a story for you... Imagine the fucked up feeling of smashing some broad you swooped from a lounge and then after the fact and chilling in bed talking, and when work comes back up into the conversation she reminds you what she does for work. "Freelance" turns into her being a "working girl" and you just kind of sit there and shiver. Most men would be surprised and somewhat shocked, but I'll tell you that it wasn't my first time that has happened to me here in Toronto. The first time it was a Cam Girl, you just stopped getting shocked at it all I guess.
If I were tech savvy enough, I would use Code API shit to scrape Craigslist as a way to measure thirst for various cities. You have gold mines of data such as the hollow dark internet cave of the Craigslist "M4W Casual Encounters" page where thirsty men put up ads for women that don't exist and will never reply. This is the perfect, imperfect way to measure male thirst in a metro area. If you control maybe for population ratios, it could give you a solid informal picture of city thirst.
To give you an idea of the levels of thirst here let me show you the stats I could pull up informally just now.
I just tallied the searches for today, only and this is what comes up:
Toronto GTA M4W Casual Encounter Ads as of 7 am: 195
New York Metro M4W Casual Encounter Ads as of 7 am: 319
Okay NYC obviously is ahead, but, you have to look deeper and account for population sizes.
Toronto Metro (GTA): 6.0 Million
NYC Metro: 23.8 Million
Remember NYC Metro is almost the size of Canada which is 32 Million. New York is eight times the size of Toronto, and yet Toronto beats NYC of thirty ads relative its population.
Any big conclusions from that? It is no surprise for me but for outsiders it shows in informal way numbers wise the sheer density of thirst here in Toronto.
The men who do find companionship here date down with much lower quality women then they the men could seek in other places. Common site to see men who appear to have their shit together walking around with wet dogs and cats which are actually their girlfriends.
Story time...
This dude from my work after a few months away is back and goes from showing me on his phone the hot bitches in Spain he was smashing while travelling to now the exact opposite. Me knowing simply by body language and his hesitation to tell us boys at work for fear we will chide him is now him dating/seeing this hogged out mutt at our workstation. She was hot... 30 pounds ago ... and has let herself go and has just got round and soft (she is so soft now I thought it was her sister; at one point in time her sister did work there as well, but she was younger, thinner, and much hotter). The softness has made all her bad mutt features come out in full force now. She still thinks she is the hotty though that she was 30 pounds ago, so her attitude is still the same of course. She always tries to get food from me, so I just give her plates of warm carbs to munch on at work hoping she gets much more fat, and my buddy gets the clue to run away. Not sure why this guy is shacking up with her, maybe it is because of the cold, and he wants some blubber to keep him warm for the winter months, but his story mirrors many men here in Toronto.
This Toronto place is a battlefield. Some of the stuff I see here would make you mortals cringe.