[John Michael Kane]

(12-21-2016 08:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

If they're coming to Deploraball, I'm sure plenty of you shitlords can verify the two Miss Pettibones up close and personal.

See, that's what RVF does best. Create datasheets and sharing of knowledge. Any RVF gents headed to deplorable? If so, I expect you to talk to these girls and form an impression. Enough with the conjecture, lets bring in the data.

[Libertas]

I'm fairly sure Tomi Lahren was vehemently anti-Trump during the primaries. That's a big red flag.

[John Michael Kane]

(12-21-2016 08:53 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I'm fairly sure Tomi Lahren was vehemently anti-Trump during the primaries. That's a big red flag.

Doesn't she work for The Blaze, Glenn Cuck's failing network? It wouldn't surprise me if she was anti-Trump and maybe is softening up only because he won. Has "generally conservative principles" but doesn't forget who signs her paycheck. As mentioned by another poster up-thread, I think she's trying to get signed by a bigger network, most likely Fox. The financials of The Blaze are so poor, she might not have a job soon unless she jumps ship or goes solo. My guess is that she wants to take a spot on Fox.

[Libertas]

She also complained big league a few months ago that she "wants men who can change a tire." Another red flag. There was a thread about it a while ago.

The Pettibone sisters are the type that seem palatable as long as they operate in their respective sphere and are respectful. Lahren seems closer to what Roosh was talking about.

[John Michael Kane]

@ Libertas:

I agree. Tomi (Who names their daughter after a boy anyways? The parents need to be slapped.) has always struck me as a bit of a cunt. Grating and preachy without any feminine warmth. The only thing she has going for her reside in her bone structure and blonde hair. Maybe she actually even believes some of the conservative stuff she spouts. Still, when I saw that "change a tire" video, I was immediately put off. Demanding and pushy. No introspection on her part as to what women can do to engender the desire of men to help them cheerfully. Just me, me, me. As I recall, most men in that thread felt similarly. Her intentions may have been good in the sense she wants more manly men around (not a bad idea!), but her demeanor was so petulant that it rubbed me the wrong way.

I'm not that familiar with the Pettibone sisters, as I haven't heard about them until this thread. They just seem like hustlers making a buck, hopefully they even believe some of what they say. I think that men are usually the sex with the strongest convictions on beliefs. After all, we are the ones that usually have to die to defend them. Women can't be that enthused by comparison by civic matters, given they aren't on the frontlines in battle (in most cases). So I don't think it is reasonable to expect women to be great political visionaries, but I have no problem with them promoting conservative viewpoints. They are an effective shield for men in the movement to stand behind against attacks of sexism. Many conservative men (including Trump!) have been hit so hard with the sexism card. It is always best for women supporters to say "we love conservative men". It makes it so much harder for the charge to stick.

[Saccade]

Speak of the devil, Brittany herself had an AMA on /r/the_donald: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comm...pettibone/

[Sooth]

Lauren Southern released a book recently.

Still waiting for her to live what she preaches and get knocked up.

[John Michael Kane]

(12-21-2016 09:47 PM)Saccade Wrote:  

Speak of the devil, Brittany herself had an AMA on /r/the_donald: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comm...pettibone/

I scanned it quickly. She says her political views are a "Constitutional Nationalist", but most people just call her "alt right", in her words.

Her handgun of choice is a H&K P2000. Not a bad choice.

She's too far away from me to game, and I'm not interested in sci-fi at all, but so far it seems her greatest crime is that she wears a bit too much makeup? Still seems fairly feminine to me compared to the harsh tones of Tomi. Goodness, that woman's voice....

(12-22-2016 12:32 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

Lauren Southern released a book recently.

Still waiting for her to live what she preaches and get knocked up.

Do we know how old Lauren is, or if these other two girls are in relationships? I agree, they all should be actively hunting for a man, if they aren't doing so already. I'm not that familiar with them, but you're right, they should be looking to get married/knocked up. The greatest vote a woman has is what seed is let into her womb, and hopefully if she marries a good man, she produces tons of little shit lords for the next generation. Do it for America girls!

[rotekz]

(12-22-2016 12:32 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

Lauren Southern released a book recently.

Has anyone here read it or planning to?

[Sooth]

(12-22-2016 03:53 AM)rotekz Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 12:32 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

Lauren Southern released a book recently.

Has anyone here read it or planning to?

Yeah I plan on at least getting the sample on my kindle.

I'm a millennial and could use a few talking points.

Baby boomers are always whining about my generation, but I always remind them who raised us. We didn't raise our selves you loud fat bitch (always a loud fat pixie cut boomer post wall slut complaining about how lazy I supposedly am while shes had 3 divorces and aborted at least one child).

Guess what bitch, I would rather live in a caravan than pay for your retirement.

[not-a-pua]

Isn't Nicole already married?
I don't drool over them and I don't engage them. If there a women that finally have a more based outlook and message: Why not.
You guys constantly complain about cock whores and blue haired feminists. I think these girls make good role models for other girls.

[Sooth]

Every time I see these girls they're getting higher up the food chain. If you entertain them you need good game.

I should start http://www.PettiboneDrama.com because before the end of the year these girls are gonna be a reality show.

[John Michael Kane]

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In his renowned dialogue, Sophist, Plato refers to a common trend in which philosophers intentionally distort the truth so that it appears accurate unless viewed from the proper angle. To make his point, Plato gives the example of the Greek statuary, which was crafted larger on the top than on the bottom so that observers on the ground would see it correctly. Of course, if the observers could view it in scale, they would realize that it was distorted.

Leftists are promoting a similar kind of trend today. Leftists have even begun to claim that reality is subjective, going so far as to label species, gender and biologically masculine/feminine qualities as social constructs. Unfortunately for these delusional escapists, reality is not subjective. No matter what you believe, the mere fact that you believe it does not make it true. On the contrary, the lens through which you are viewing the world is malformed. And if you ever decide that you want the ability to view the authentic truth, you will need to change your lens. The world is never going to collectively accept an alternate reality to accommodate your fantasies. This will lead to chaos. In a way, it already has.

One such chaotic example is the ever-increasing racist rhetoric being directed at White people. Such slogans as “All White People Are Racist”, “The White Man is a Devil” and “No Whites Allowed” have gone mainstream and are circulating the physical/digital networks of western society. With the rise of the criminal ideology, Black Lives Matter, White people as a whole are now being viewed through a malformed lens.

A couple of examples of the mounting anti-White rhetoric are of a White teacher who works for Norm North High School in Oklahoma, being allowed to teach his students that to be White is to be racist. Another example is of a Black English teacher who was suspended from Duncanville High School in Texas for posting a tweet ridden with profanities and racist slurs about the police shooting of Black teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson—telling her White critics to kill themselves. Another example is of a Canadian judge ruling that a person yelling “I hate White people” and punching a White person wasn’t racially motivated so it wasn’t a crime. Another example is the University of Wisconsin-Madison refusing to denounce the fact that one of its students is selling hoodies bearing the phrase “All White People Are Racist” in capital letters. For a final example, see this particularly disturbing video exposing the violent rhetoric of Black Lives Matter, which you really should take the time to watch.

Many Leftists claim that it is impossible for a Black person to be racist against a White person because “reverse racism” isn’t real. In a way, these Leftists are correct because there’s no such thing as “reverse racism”. It just called racism. No matter your ethnicity, if you intentionally choose to racially discriminate against another ethnicity, or even against your own, you are a racist.

Many Leftists insist that White people need to sit down, shut up and embrace the role of apologists. These Leftists want nothing more than to see White people collapse at their feet and roil in a bout of guilt for the transgressions of their White ancestors. But the fantasy doesn’t end there. These Leftists also wish to see White people pledge to do all in their power to atone for the transgressions of their White ancestors. A few examples in which White people can atone are expressing shame over their whiteness, silencing themselves and silencing other White people who dare challenge the narrative.

Firstly, if races were truly required to atone for the transgressions of their ancestors, that would make ALL races eligible for atonement. If White people living now are required to atone for their ancestors enslaving Black people, then shouldn’t North Africans living now also be required to atone for their ancestors enslaving one million White people during the Barbary slave trade? Think about it.

Secondly, it’s a grave injustice to assert that a person should have to take responsibility for another person’s wrongdoings. Unless a person is directly/indirectly culpable for a crime, they should not be asked to shoulder the blame. That said, I find it particularly interesting how many such commands regarding taking responsibility originate from the very same people who find it perfectly reasonable to cast off responsibility for a pregnancy and who believe that murdering an innocent child is a suitable alternative.

Many Leftists like to label White people who oppose their narrative as “White Supremacists.” But why? Why is taking pride in one’s own skin color or heritage so controversial? Or is it only controversial when a White person does it? No Leftist would dare to shame a Black person for taking pride in their skin color or heritage. And that’s exactly how it should be. America as a whole should be encouraging cultural and nationalist pride, not trying to stomp it out.

In case the Leftists who advocate for White guilt culture weren’t already aware, it’s important that you realize your plan is no longer working. Of course, your plan did work for a while, when you tossed about insults such as “White supremacist, racist, bigot, sexist, misogynist.” Unfortunately for you, the vast majority of those who oppose your narrative no longer respond to insults. Words that aren’t rooted in reality or fact mean nothing.

For those who argue that Black people are being killed every day, I agree with you. Black people are being killed every day and it’s a terrible tragedy. But it’s important to note that this is largely due to Black-on-Black crime, which resulted in the deaths of 6,000 Blacks in 2015 alone. What’s more, 28% of Black babies have been aborted while Black people make up just 13% of the population. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had approximately 16 million abortions.

As for Black people being killed by law enforcement officials, you would be right again when you say that black people are disproportionately likely to die at the hands of police. But why is this? Is it just because our law enforcement as a whole is racist? No, it’s because Black people are disproportionately likely to be involved in violent crime in the United States, thus putting themselves in the line of fire. Black people commit nearly half of all murders in this country, which is incredible when you once again take into consideration that Black people only make up 13% of the population.

Yes, Black people in America are suffering. Yes, Black people in America deserve reparations. But Black people cannot demand reparations at the expense of those who are innocent to the cause of their misfortune. Reparations are not in any way owed to Black people by the average White person. Reparations are owed to Black people by the government for implementing the welfare system, for legalizing abortion, for destroying the nuclear family, for providing a crappy educational system and for shipping the majority of American jobs offshore.

We all need to be aware of what is truly at play in our country. We all need to be aware who our real enemy is: not each other, but the establishment. The establishment has been planting and fostering disparaging narratives for the sole purpose of turning Americans against one another. The establishment’s goal is to destabilize our country, to cripple our reliability upon one another so that we come to rely upon the establishment itself. And so far, their divide and conquer strategy has been succeeding. The establishment has already succeeded in dividing men and women through Feminism, Blacks and Whites through Black Lives Matter, and liberals and conservatives through the deceitful narrative they’ve spun around the presidential election. For those buying into it, you are being manipulated. You are being distracted. You are being made to believe that racism is flourishing unhindered in our country, when, if you truly examine the statistics, you will find you’re your anger is built upon a false claim. As far as the establishment is concerned, you are nothing more than a Useful Idiot. And in knowing that you are a Useful Idiot, the establishment will use you shamelessly. But the moment that you’ve fulfilled your purpose, the moment that the establishment has squeezed all the benefit from you that they can, they’ll discard you.

We all need to stand together. No matter our color, race or gender, we all need to rise up as one. If we cannot do that, if we choose to continue downward on this destructive path of regression, we will eventually get the country that we deserve—a country without harmony, a country without unity, and worst of all, a country without freedom.

http://tspettibone.com/rise-anti-whiteness/

Well that wasn't very politically correct.

@21:48 in the video they start talking about the book that her and her sister wrote. She actually explicitly states she doesn't like "kick ass" girl characters that are beating up 300 lbs men even though they are 100 lbs themselves. She also pointed out that men and women have complementary, but not same roles. I honestly do see anything from these two that I find objectionable so far. In fact, I'd argue that they are playing "girl game" quite one. One is already married, at age 23, a full six years before the average American woman. That's quite a feat. They come from a family of ten children, so they probably are used to helping out with siblings and mothering. Last but not least, their chosen passion of writing books is actually a great career choice for a feminine woman. It actually translates well as an extra source of income that can be done in their spare time from home once a husband/children come along.

I'd say their only crime that I've been able to find fault with is that they need to ease up on the makeup. Seriously overdone. Other than that, I don't see these two as having a negative influence. They dress modestly, talk about conservative values, are against abortion, and have chosen a career path that can be compatible with family life. They haven't written the next War and Peace, but they certainly aren't a negative cultural impact. Sometimes I think we're so harsh to jump on the average American woman for being bad news that we forget that some of them actually might be decent people.

[TravelerKai]

Roosh is 100% right to be skeptical.

No American woman is willingly anti-feminist! The only real women that are not feminist are almost always religious women. You know the ones that actually adhere to 1 Timothy in the New Testament. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses', other strict Christianity sects, Muslims, etc. They submit to God 100%. God tells them in his word, to submit to male authority. It's pretty simple for them to follow.

Others have it hard-coded in their cultural makeup to conduct themselves a certain way or to submit to male authority no matter what. Many Asian women in Asia come to mind. The legal system and the hive mind of the people (historically and culturally) forge that mentality.

American women though? Color aside, none of these women have any incentive to rally against their own power!!! If you were an American woman, without religious obligations/duty, you would be feminist too! Even if you were not a card carrying type, you would still be just as indoctrinated as the next American woman. Just because feminists are wearing burkas at a march in 2017, does not mean that they really want that. They are just too mentally deficient to understand the implications of what that lifestyle is like for the people they think they want to defend.

American women would do very well under good sound order. Problem is, you could never argue them into understanding that. No offense to QC, but if my mother with her master's degree tried to read your blog she would get lost and resort to feelings. If she read something Samseau wrote, she would not look at the forest for the trees, she would see that he is advocating the removal of some power she holds, and thus would react strongly against it.

Some of you guys need to understand that the opposite of Feminism is Submission. There is nothing submissive about nearly any typical American woman. A woman cannot be submissive in nature if she is running her mouth to begin with. Now if these women are targeting other women only for an audience, I withdraw my criticism, but I do not see an indication of that.

These women are just going to eventually offer a "light version" of whatever platform they are jumping on. Hence the accusations of hustling from guys here with seasoned eyes. These girls might mean well and might come from decent family, but unless they put their money where their mouths are, they are the same as the people Dalrock lambastes on his blog regularly. They will be another Rick Warren or something similar, like Christina Hoff Sommers.

Just a matter of time.

Also, Libertas' political reasons sound right from a political perspective, but past that, ideologically, their words should be dead to us. Maintain that ban on females Roosh.

[Cattle Rustler]

Alt right women are no different than "gamer" women. They put a facade to bring the dollahs in and rake it, look at Cassandra Fairbanks.

[kavi]

Can't take someone seriously if they look like a clown. I am ofcourse referring to the excessive makeup.

[debeguiled]

I agree with TravelerKai.

Even if these girls think they are red pilled, they have internalized too much spoiled behavior from the culture and the media.

I can't think of even one supposed Red Pill woman who hasn't given the game away at one time or another with a slip of the tongue when they made a drunk video or were under stress.

If they were really submissive, they wouldn't even be making videos at all. They would leave that to their men.

They start out sweet and submissive and end up calling men wimps who need to man up.

This is mostly exploiting a niche market and topping from the bottom.

[IveBeenFramed]

(02-03-2017 03:59 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Alt right women are no different than "gamer" women. They put a facade to bring the dollahs in and rake it, look at Cassandra Fairbanks.

This was the case I was going to bring up. How many times has Ms. Fairbanks switched philosophy over the course of the last 12 months? And we're not talking small tweaks of ideology either. We're talking massive shifts in ideology, and if my count is correct, she's had 3 of them during that time. Her harassment at the hands of Antifa notwithstanding with her current ideology, there is absolutely no consistency in ideological stance, nor is this change cumulative over a number of years which is the case with most of us here on the boards, I would think. I can foresee a quick change in philosophy in some sort of "Eureka!" moment given certain circumstances, but the constant shifting in ideologies over the course of a short period of time seems inconceivable to me. I'm preaching to the choir though, aren't I?

[budoslavic]

Their name pops up often whenever I see various Twitter users' retweet Pettibone's tweets. Since we have no clue on what their background is, this part amused me:

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T.S. Pettibone is the pen name of identical twins, Brittany and Nicole Pettibone. They were born in California, grew up in Kansas, and these days, live and write in California. On the rare occasion that they break from writing, they enjoy being outdoors, taking their dog on night walks, reading the classics, drinking too much coffee, traveling the world, making friends out of strangers and learning new things—especially when these things are in any way related to architecture, foreign languages and cultures, cars, motorcycles, weapons and martial arts.
...

Sounds too much like a personals ad.

Edit: Interesting. Not a fan of Observer news site, but recently Liberals were up in arms about B. Pettibone starting a GoFundMe for her Podcast project.

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Alt-Right ‘PizzaGate Expert’ Starts GoFundMe for Her Podcast, Internet Revolts
01/30/17 2:17pm



UPDATE 1/301/17 4:30 PM: GoFundMe has removed Pettibone’s campaign from the site.

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GoFundMe has become one of the most popular sites for charity-based crowdfunding, raising money for Paris terrorist attack victims, Indian orphans and the restaurant at the center of the PizzaGate controversy.

But a new campaign from a notable right wing activist (and so-called”PizzaGate expert”) has many on social media crying foul.

Today conservative writer and journalist Brittany Pettibone started a GoFundMe in support of a video podcast called “Virtue of the West,” which would focus on “traditionalism” and “values that once made Western Civilization great, including but not limited to the glorification of the nuclear family, motherhood, masculinity, femininity, etiquette, traditional gender roles and love of one’s own culture, race and country.”

Pettibone’s views, however, have been more in line with alt-right sensibilities than traditional ones. For example, last month she was a guest on the podcast “This Alt-Right Life” as “one of the leading authorities on PizzaGate,” the conspiracy theory that a Washington, D.C. pizzeria was the epicenter of a child sex ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chairman John Podesta.

The episode on which Pettibone appeared focused on topics like “the cluster of pedophile-related businesses in northwest Washington, D.C.” and “how the media is trying to protect the pedophiles.”

Pettibone’s GoFundMe asked for only $400 to cover the cost of “Final Cut Pro, a Skype Call Recorder, some new headphones, etc” and has already exceeded its goal. But the controversy around it is just beginning—as journalist Judd Legum first pointed out, the campaign likely violates GoFundMe’s terms of service:

Indeed, GoFundMe’s TOS prohibits “the promotion of hate, violence, harassment, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender or gender identity.” Pettibone’s emphasis on traditionalism likely goes against this.

Many others on Twitter have also taken up the cause:

[url=https://twitter.com/MadameBeloved/status/826130877348507648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw]

GoFundMe has not yet responded to these protests or taken down the campaign.

[John Michael Kane]

(02-03-2017 03:55 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Roosh is 100% right to be skeptical.

Skepticism is always warranted. No argument there.

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No American woman is willingly anti-feminist! The only real women that are not feminist are almost always religious women. You know the ones that actually adhere to 1 Timothy in the New Testament. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses', other strict Christianity sects, Muslims, etc. They submit to God 100%. God tells them in his word, to submit to male authority. It's pretty simple for them to follow.

These girls are from a practicing Catholic family. They attend a conservative parish. I just found this out from a friend who is an acquaintance of theirs who has visited their church. This man is EXTREMELY red pill, and married a very feminine woman who is a great wife and mother to their children. His judgement regarding women is solid. Your statement is correct that the best anti-feminist women are religious. They appear to qualify under your qualification.

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Others have it hard-coded in their cultural makeup to conduct themselves a certain way or to submit to male authority no matter what. Many Asian women in Asia come to mind. The legal system and the hive mind of the people (historically and culturally) forge that mentality.

The confucian themes of countries in Asia certainly help towards a healthy respect of masculinity. Still, women are women everywhere, and are still need firm but loving guidance. Saint Paul's teachings are clear on that. I endorse them as a Catholic who believes that he meant exactly what he said when men should be the leader of his wife and family. In fact, I'd argue that being an anti-feminist woman in the West requires tremendous courage, especially if they live in a leftist SJW state like California, like the Pettibones' do. They are just a half-hour away from the SJW hell that is the Bay Area. Being anti-feminist is practically considered sedition around these parts.

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American women though? Color aside, none of these women have any incentive to rally against their own power!!! If you were an American woman, without religious obligations/duty, you would be feminist too! Even if you were not a card carrying type, you would still be just as indoctrinated as the next American woman. Just because feminists are wearing burkas at a march in 2017, does not mean that they really want that. They are just too mentally deficient to understand the implications of what that lifestyle is like for the people they think they want to defend.

I'd agree that American women in the main, are shit testing men en masse with these Cunt Marches. They are begging to be put over a man's knee and be spanked. That being said, there are a minority of them that are worth looking over. I'm in a conservative outpost of California that actually has some decent women. In a state otherwise overrun with feminists, these women stick out. All of the most feminine women I know are religious. Roosh is right to say the future mother of his children must believe in God and actively religious. I 100% endorse that!

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American women would do very well under good sound order. Problem is, you could never argue them into understanding that. No offense to QC, but if my mother with her master's degree tried to read your blog she would get lost and resort to feelings. If she read something Samseau wrote, she would not look at the forest for the trees, she would see that he is advocating the removal of some power she holds, and thus would react strongly against it.

I'm of the belief that most women can't be argued with using logic in the way you would argue and win over a man. There are a few, but they are not average. Many men can also be immune to logic. That's why when you're dealing with someone who doesn't respond well to traditional argumentation techniques, it is best to use game and meme warfare. Use humor to diffuse and win over those on the fence. You'll waste time trying to convince a hardcore Planned Parenthood feminist. Why even bother? You're better off gaming a woman who is still mostly feminine, but needs a little bit of guidance to get her to reject some nonsense like the pay gap myth. In fact, a woman who is willing to listen to a man and learn from him should be a prerequisite for any relationship! Men should be the teachers of women. Women worth keeping around need to be willing students.

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Some of you guys need to understand that the opposite of Feminism is Submission. There is nothing submissive about nearly any typical American woman. A woman cannot be submissive in nature if she is running her mouth to begin with. Now if these women are targeting other women only for an audience, I withdraw my criticism, but I do not see an indication of that.

It is natural for a woman to submit to a worthy man. Part of the problem that women face in the West is that there aren't enough masculine men around. T-levels have dropped, and men aren't taught manly values, or in many cases, don't even have a father. Both men and women need leadership, and they are both being undersold by our current culture. It will be men that have to fix the cultural primarily by changing the game, but I see no problem in women speaking out against feminism as part of a movement led by men. Women are herd creatures. If enough of them realize that being anti-feminist is now "cool", let them jump on that bandwagon. Trying to get women to logic and reason like a man is fruitless. Getting caught over tactics doesn't matter as much as winning the war in general.

You win the war by marshalling the men and leading them, then teaching them how to lead women. You made a mention to "typical" American women. The typical American woman is fat, has tattoos, dresses immodestly and preaches feminist crap. The Pettibone sisters are slender, wear conservative clothing, are from a religious family, one is already married at only age 23 and they both speak out against feminism and are Trump supporters. I'm not sure how much more proof is needed to suggest that they aren't some type of closet feminists waiting to trick a man. Yes, keep your eyes open, but I haven't seen anything really tangible other than conjecture that these women are "bad news". There's skepticism, and then there's being paranoid. Skepticism, combined with filtering is what works. If there aren't any red flags showing up, proceed with caution.

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These women are just going to eventually offer a "light version" of whatever platform they are jumping on. Hence the accusations of hustling from guys here with seasoned eyes. These girls might mean well and might come from decent family, but unless they put their money where their mouths are, they are the same as the people Dalrock lambastes on his blog regularly. They will be another Rick Warren or something similar, like Christina Hoff Sommers.

I'd like an example of where they are offering feminism light? They've openly spoke against feminism. They've praised Trump and bashed Hillary. Dalrock makes lots of great points, but lots of it is just bashing. There's a problem when you're only talking about what's wrong, and not providing a path to create the world you actually want to live in. Dalrock is right to point out men need to lead families. Where he and some of his commenters (more so his commenters, at least some of the more bitter ones) go off the rails is that they constantly bash girls not worthy of relationships. Sure, call out the bad girls. But don't pay attention to or date them. More time should be focused on learning game on how to filter in good women, and not just filter out the bad ones. The two go hand-in-hand.

The reason why many of these women went off the rails is because the pastors in these churches are weak beta males. They aren't looking inward enough to actually take action and stop going to cucky churches. As a practicing Christian that goes to church regularly, I don't give money to or attend cuck-lead parishes. Dalrock's crowd and any Christian man should be leveling their heat towards suckup men, and toughening them up, not just railing against feminist women. Complaining about women is pointless. Women will follow whomever leads. Men aren't leading, and women are victims of weak male leadership. Doesn't excuse women for bad behavior, but the bad behavior should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago, but wasn't due to weak men.

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Just a matter of time.

That's fatalism, and it isn't a healthy outlook on life. Judging by reading Dalrock's blog, I'm going to take a guess that you're Christian. If not, correct me. I don't see anywhere in the Bible or church teaching that suggests despair is a virtue. Faith is a virtue. We're supposed to be wise men, looking out for pitfalls (in women or elsewhere), but not to be a fatalist or assume bad faith in every single person we come across. I encourage you not to fall into cynicism. Trust me, right after reading Heartise and Dalrock, it is very easy to be hyper-cynical about women. If being a complete blue-pill beta is one extreme, I think assuming bad faith in all women is the other end of the spectrum. In a gender war, nobody wins. The key is to trolling and meme'ing weak men and encouraging them to return to manliness. Women will respond better to a manly man than a weak one. Feminism is the by-product of weak men. Fix the men, and you'll have a better chance of fixing the women.

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Also, Libertas' political reasons sound right from a political perspective, but past that, ideologically, their words should be dead to us. Maintain that ban on females Roosh.

You'll get no argument from me that Roosh's ban on women is absolutely necessary. When there is a mixed group of men and women, too many beta males become suckups. Men need to be taught manliness without women around, less they start white knighting for the bad girl's that don't deserve protection. There's good reason why this is a male-only space and should stay that way. Still, it doesn't mean that girls like the Pettibone's attending the Deploraball or writing anti-feminist blog posts are somehow undermining men. That is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If they write something that starts making excuses for bad female behavior, or bashing men, absolutely I'll condemn them. But to date, I've yet to see any real criticism of these girls which is based in fact, other than they wear too much makeup, a charge of which they are guilty. If that's the WORST of a woman's faults, complaining about them is way off the mark given the average American woman. Without knowing them personally, there's no public red flags that suggest these two are up to no good. If you're going to level charges of them being some type of crypto-feminist, I'd love to see some proof other than conjecture. There's better targets of our precious political capital than these two, at least that's what my gut says until shown some evidence of their alleged maleficence.

[John Michael Kane]

(02-03-2017 04:43 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Their name pops up often whenever I see various Twitter users' retweet Pettibone's tweets. Since we have no clue on what their background is, this part amused me:

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T.S. Pettibone is the pen name of identical twins, Brittany and Nicole Pettibone. They were born in California, grew up in Kansas, and these days, live and write in California. On the rare occasion that they break from writing, they enjoy being outdoors, taking their dog on night walks, reading the classics, drinking too much coffee, traveling the world, making friends out of strangers and learning new things—especially when these things are in any way related to architecture, foreign languages and cultures, cars, motorcycles, weapons and martial arts.
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Sounds too much like a personals ad.

I lol'ed when I saw that. Yes, it does sound like a personals ad. You know what? I say good for Brittney, the single one (I think she's the single one?). That's excellent girl game. Writing a book, gaining exposure to men who will read their social media profiles = expanded options of men to choose from. One is already married at only age 23. That's a key indicator she's not interested in the cock carousel. As for the one who is currently single, this extra exposure will lead to getting to know more conservative men. I'd wager good money she's married within the next two years or less. Her already-married sister will probably pop out a kid soon. That, my friend, is good girl game.

Game for men requires actively selecting women and filtering them. It means making approaches, social circle game, etc. It takes a lot of proactive behavior. Female game is more what I would call active-passive. Meaning that they actively don't get fat, take care of their appearance, be social and get to know lots of men, and wait for the men to make a move, while showing they are open to approaches. These girls are rocking the active-passive game from what I can tell. They're also making money in a career that is compatible with being a wife and mother. Sounds like their gameplan is doing just fine to me.

[John Michael Kane]

(02-03-2017 04:37 PM)IveBeenFramed Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 03:59 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Alt right women are no different than "gamer" women. They put a facade to bring the dollahs in and rake it, look at Cassandra Fairbanks.

This was the case I was going to bring up. How many times has Ms. Fairbanks switched philosophy over the course of the last 12 months? And we're not talking small tweaks of ideology either. We're talking massive shifts in ideology, and if my count is correct, she's had 3 of them during that time. Her harassment at the hands of Antifa notwithstanding with her current ideology, there is absolutely no consistency in ideological stance, nor is this change cumulative over a number of years which is the case with most of us here on the boards, I would think. I can foresee a quick change in philosophy in some sort of "Eureka!" moment given certain circumstances, but the constant shifting in ideologies over the course of a short period of time seems inconceivable to me. I'm preaching to the choir though, aren't I?

This is a poor comparison at best. Fairbanks is a clear case of a girl trying to polish up her wild past. Her slutty outfits, tattoos and previous (current?) life as an SJW/troublemaker are well-documented. She strikes me as a trap for any unsuspecting man. Would not date, would not marry. Her change in ideology I think is tactical. Strikes me as an attempt to be cunning.

Unless there's some recorded past of the Pettibone sisters acting in a similar manner, I think it is profoundly off-base to suggest these women are exactly the same. Talk about missing the forest for the trees. If the Pettibones have a provable history of pimping feminism or some other crap, I say give them hell for being carpetbaggers. In the absence of the evidence, I say remain a bit skeptical but save your real ire for carpetbaggers like Fairbanks who doesn't even make it hard to tell she's up to no good.

[Gmac]

Having met the sisters a few times during inauguration weekend, I think they're legit. Good people.

Also both very tiny in person.

[John Michael Kane]

(02-03-2017 05:14 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Having met the sisters a few times during inauguration weekend, I think they're legit. Good people.

Also both very tiny in person.

They live about 3.5 hours from me. One of these days when I get back up to the area where they live, I'm going to have to throw a party with friends in that area and use my mutual friend to invite them out. Consider it a RVF recon mission for the doubters.

I can't believe I'll have to write a Pettibone datasheet. What a riot.

If Brittney actually is a genuine feminine woman, would marry and smash her tiny body. Would impregnate. Would also talk about easing up the makeup.

[Cattle Rustler]

(02-03-2017 04:37 PM)IveBeenFramed Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 03:59 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Alt right women are no different than "gamer" women. They put a facade to bring the dollahs in and rake it, look at Cassandra Fairbanks.

This was the case I was going to bring up. How many times has Ms. Fairbanks switched philosophy over the course of the last 12 months? And we're not talking small tweaks of ideology either. We're talking massive shifts in ideology, and if my count is correct, she's had 3 of them during that time. Her harassment at the hands of Antifa notwithstanding with her current ideology, there is absolutely no consistency in ideological stance, nor is this change cumulative over a number of years which is the case with most of us here on the boards, I would think. I can foresee a quick change in philosophy in some sort of "Eureka!" moment given certain circumstances, but the constant shifting in ideologies over the course of a short period of time seems inconceivable to me. I'm preaching to the choir though, aren't I?

Winner winner chicken dinner! You hit the nail right in the head my man.

It's odd how she pretends to be "cute" in all her pics, especially the one with the trump hat. I wonder how many pics with that pose she had to take to get it "right".