[262]

The only explanation that comes to my mind is he's a previously-banned member.

I doubt posing the question, "How can you make Toronto work if you're stuck there?" is an offense worth a ban.

Heck, I'd like to see that question discussed myself, even though I have no interest in visiting Toronto again. If Toronto is as bad as they say it is, and everywhere is also only a few months or years behind its slide as well, then I think we'd all like to know what it takes to succeed there, since that's what it'll take to succeed anywhere in the future.

My guess? Social circle Game. It's been discussed on this forum, but it'll be something else if and when we start seeing a significant amount of field reports on it.

[rudebwoy]

(12-20-2016 02:42 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

If everyone just ignored RBerkeley the forum would be a better place. Let him post his rants about elites, Sjws, gays, whatever. If know one responds he has nothing to go off to continue the rant.

+1 from me

Post of the day.

Berkley is bitter troll, who doesnt know what he is talking about.

Banna - is a cool cat who is out there pounding the bars and clubs on a regular. I have met him and he speaks the truth.

I don't think anyone has met the troll.

[Curunír]

[quote='Banna' pid='1468059' dateline='1482215452']
[quote='Screemingdead' pid='1467640' dateline='1482181600']

"1? Gimme a break Montreal is no oasis of beautiful women vs Toronto. The population is smaller overall than Toronto. There is more nationalities in Toronto than any city [/b]on planet Earth can claim to have so imho there's something for everyone. "

Are you even serious that Toronto girls are better looking than Montreal girls? Actually Montreal is an oasis and well known for it, since forever.

"What do you look for 8.5 - 10 exclusively? Those are tough to pull anywhere on the planet for a non 1%er average Joe person. Imho looks wise there's more than enough 7 - 8 looking women here to keep me happy. Now in terms of getting them in bed and attitudes are a another story for another day.....lol. "

Isn't game about getting the hottest women? Of course status, money and looks help, but if you cannot get the hottest women with your game, you need to keep going out and putting in those 10 000 hours.[b]

[cmonman]

This is a $21 post so I may as well make the most of it:

OP here. Thanks for the @JWLZG, @kirdiesel, @rishboy77, @262 for the support, and to @rudebwoy, I just have taken your advice. Berkley has posted no useful information on this forum, no data sheets, yet I bit in.

The reason for my ban is the following:
"Ban Reason: Feminist, attacking members for being "misogynist"
Ban will be lifted: Never"

due to the following statement:

"Moral of the story, if you are going to be an ignorant, racist, closed off homophobic misogynist, maybe a city like Toronto is not for you... If you have traveled the world, encountered and befriended many different cultures, races, religions and sexual preferences, you'll do just fine."

I stick by that statement. I'm not attacking a member for being a misogynist. I'm stating the reality of Toronto. No different from the posts on here about where it's hard to get laid as a result of being a certain race or religion. Additionally, if not being a misogynist is an excluding factor of this forum, I think the rules need to be updated as there is absolutely nothing addressing this. I received no warning, just a direct ban, a few hours after spending 3 hours creating this data sheet.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. I already have trips to 20 countries planned this year, including a month in Tallinn, Medellin, and Buenos Aires, so similar data sheets were to be coming for those cities as well as input to previous data sheets for the other countries. But apparently it wasn't meant to be.

If you enjoyed my posts to this point, it can't hurt to send Roosh a quick message and ask for a presidential pardon, otherwise I'll return to being a useless, non contributing member like I was before.

[Curunír]

[Banna]

(12-22-2016 10:36 AM)Curunír Wrote:  

Are you even serious that Toronto girls are better looking than Montreal girls? Actually Montreal is an oasis and well known for it, since forever.
"
Isn't game about getting the hottest women? Of course status, money and looks help, but if you cannot get the hottest women with your game, you need to keep going out and putting in those 10 000 hours.[b]

I've never said which was or wasn't better. I don't buy the notion Montreal is some oasis to Toronto looks wise in terms of women. These are the 2 largest and diverse cities in the country. It's not like we're comparing Montreal with Moose Jaw Saskatchewan. Both cities have major talent to. Perhaps better attitudes I will say ......transplant Montreal girls here I've met have always impressed me most with their femininity (I.e. easy going nature and willingness to please) vs the average Toronto girl I encounter with inflated egos of their self worth. Toronto is a bit more multicultural and diverse in women than Montreal (not implying Montreal isn't). Flags here for me have come from the Middle East....to EE....to the Caribbean. I give up on opening Oriental/Indian women here.

I find it absurd for the poster to claim women here are "usually obese". Go hangout in the Thompson hotel downstairs lobby or even better the Wildflower club on any given weekend. There are some jaw dropping women there to me. My wingman just reconnected with this 8.5 bartender he used to mess with this past Sunday.

Regarding the last sentence looks are indeed subjective. I don't think in my lifetime I've bedded a woman I'd rate higher than a 8 by my standards. The current girl I'd say is a 7. But it's her attitude towards me that wins. I'd rather have a stream of 7s + 7.5s that treat me well than to spend a lot of energy trying to find pampered high maintenance 8.5+ women. Some guys need to drive a Ferrari.....some guys like me are content to drive a Corvette or Nissan Turbo.

It isn't impossible to game or bed the odd 8.5 -10 woman with the right game, style.

But to have a harem/consistent flow of them? I think any man on this planet with a harem (emphasis on harem!) of 8+ and up women in his life MUST have serious bankroll to present the image/lifestyle they'd gravitate towards.

You're welcome to be fixated on finding/bedding 8.5 -10s. I surely won't turn down the opportunity to bang one if it presents itself,lol. I'm comfortable pursuing the 7s - 8s with less maintenance that'll treat me great. I'm not fixated on finding a 8.5+ looking woman like some others are.

[Banna]

(12-22-2016 09:42 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(12-20-2016 02:42 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

If everyone just ignored RBerkeley the forum would be a better place. Let him post his rants about elites, Sjws, gays, whatever. If know one responds he has nothing to go off to continue the rant.

+1 from me

Post of the day.

Berkley is bitter troll, who doesnt know what he is talking about.

Banna - is a cool cat who is out there pounding the bars and clubs on a regular. I have met him and he speaks the truth.

I don't think anyone has met the troll.

Thank you for your comment. One thing I will say I'm not going to critique the6six, but I for one will not attend the Pride parade or interact with gays in the hopes of gaming women.

I'm not fond of that lifestyle and there are many other avenues in Toronto to meet women.

Whatever works best for whomever here.

[kirdiesel]

This is why I deflected being dragged into a refugee conversation on my German datasheet.

Let people just write their stupid comments and ignore them.

[rudebwoy]

So many threads about this city, it blows my mind.

Somehow people still think the hype is false and they can game here easily.

What I will say, is that the Toronto RVF cats do very well when they game overseas.

[Curunír]

(12-22-2016 02:33 PM)Banna Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 10:36 AM)Curunír Wrote:  

Are you even serious that Toronto girls are better looking than Montreal girls? Actually Montreal is an oasis and well known for it, since forever.
"
Isn't game about getting the hottest women? Of course status, money and looks help, but if you cannot get the hottest women with your game, you need to keep going out and putting in those 10 000 hours.[b]

I've never said which was or wasn't better. I don't buy the notion Montreal is some oasis to Toronto looks wise in terms of women. These are the 2 largest and diverse cities in the country. It's not like we're comparing Montreal with Moose Jaw Saskatchewan. Both cities have major talent to. Perhaps better attitudes I will say ......transplant Montreal girls here I've met have always impressed me most with their femininity (I.e. easy going nature and willingness to please) vs the average Toronto girl I encounter with inflated egos of their self worth. Toronto is a bit more multicultural and diverse in women than Montreal (not implying Montreal isn't). Flags here for me have come from the Middle East....to EE....to the Caribbean. I give up on opening Oriental/Indian women here.

I find it absurd for the poster to claim women here are "usually obese". Go hangout in the Thompson hotel downstairs lobby or even better the Wildflower club on any given weekend. There are some jaw dropping women there to me. My wingman just reconnected with this 8.5 bartender he used to mess with this past Sunday.

Regarding the last sentence looks are indeed subjective. I don't think in my lifetime I've bedded a woman I'd rate higher than a 8 by my standards. The current girl I'd say is a 7. But it's her attitude towards me that wins. I'd rather have a stream of 7s + 7.5s that treat me well than to spend a lot of energy trying to find pampered high maintenance 8.5+ women. Some guys need to drive a Ferrari.....some guys like me are content to drive a Corvette or Nissan Turbo.

It isn't impossible to game or bed the odd 8.5 -10 woman with the right game, style.

But to have a harem/consistent flow of them? I think any man on this planet with a harem (emphasis on harem!) of 8+ and up women in his life MUST have serious bankroll to present the image/lifestyle they'd gravitate towards.

You're welcome to be fixated on finding/bedding 8.5 -10s. I surely won't turn down the opportunity to bang one if it presents itself,lol. I'm comfortable pursuing the 7s - 8s with less maintenance that'll treat me great. I'm not fixated on finding a 8.5+ looking woman like some others are.

I totally agree with your reply.

I sucked at game until I was 24 and seriously put some work at it and traveled a lot and can get many 9+ now, at 33, but I also have bankroll, status, looks (in that I had good genes and no physical problem that's luck and blessing), but, I also have game, if not I'd be buying my way into bed, which I don't do.

But my comment was too strong I retract it.

I also though Toronto girls were better than people say every time I went.

But I dislike the city for reasons that would not interest anyone and that are of personal choice.

You guys have better weather and better sports however, and a better airport and a beach.

[Moma]

(12-22-2016 03:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

So many threads about this city, it blows my mind.

Somehow people still think the hype is false and they can game here easily.

What I will say, is that the Toronto RVF cats do very well when they game overseas.

Amen, bro. One thing I have noticed is that no one has ever put forth a consistent lay sheet on Toronto, despite all the claims to it being beta males being the only ones messing up the lay. It also lends to something if the top PUA guys come from Toronto. Wasn't Mystery and a few other guys from Toronto?

[AneroidOcean]

(12-19-2016 11:17 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 10:32 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  

I think the biggest issue is that most guys who have issues with Toronto don't have live in Toronto, it's like when most people say they're from Toronto they're actually from Mississauga or North York or the boonies far away. When your that far out in the suburbs, it really sucks! Being so far away from actual Toronto creates a ton of issues, it's like living the suburbs of NJ and trying to go to Manhattan to have fun.

The biggest gripe I've got about Toronto, I've spoken to a few guys from there; is that it's expensive. Like, really expensive, especially since the job market in Canada shit the bed, unless you got a ton of experience in a profession or trade. It's hard going for a young 20 something to 30 guy trying to make it in the big city. You cannot eat the costs of doing fun stuff because your bank account is going to get wiped out.

This. Plus, downtown elitism does no good for the common man. Not owning a penthouse by the lake or pursuing a CMHC-insured mortgage on an overpriced home automatically makes a man "not eligible" to fit in that weird house-obsessed, status obsessed, politically correct & gay pride friendly city in a frozen wasteland.

With an income of over 50k US$ a year, one can live comfortably in a large U.S. city like Los Angeles, the same cannot be said in Toronto even if you convert the money to present-day Canadian dollars (70.000$ per year). Real estate price for a beachfront house in Malibu, California is on average $700,000 United States greenback, but a house in a Toronto suburb like Markham or Richmond Hill, Ontario is increasing over 1.5 million C$, or 1.1 million US$.

<SNIP>

I came here curious about the6ix banning and so read the thread. His banning seems odd, I hope there will be an explanation.

I don't know what all the back and forth hate is about, but you clearly know far less than you claim about Los Angeles if you think that you can live comfortably with over 50k US a year. There are areas where you can do this as LA county is quite large (~4,700 square miles), but in what people consider LA proper or the reasonable to nice areas of LA, that's not the case. This is easily disputed by looking at your laughable real estate pricing with a simple internet search:

The average of the properties on that listing that are anywhere near the waterfront is over $13 million USD, nearly 20 times more expensive than you claim.

I went over places sold and tried to pick out the rental units and still came up with nearly 6.5 million average sale price. You're telling the forum that the Malibu beach front real estate price is about $700,000 USD and it's actually 10 to 20 times higher depending on how you calculate it.

[rudebwoy]

^ I would bet a certain Troll got thesix banned?

[Curunír]

It's apparent why OP got banned.

His second hara kiri shows the premeditation

Trying to rally people against Roosh and the ban?

Bitch please.

With this site, you cannot argue or even hint a disapproval or you get banned.

It's in the DNA of this site and always will be.

Is it too harsh , unjust?

It's how it is, it's love it or leave it and only the strongest survive the tentation of the meltdown.

I would not be surprised many members were banned and came back more polished under different names.

The antogonizing and plaintive approach of the OP had some sjw touch to it , without any doubt .

He should recompose , come back later and do his data sheets.

[Banna]

I had to catch a early morning flight out to the US, but decided to go out so I'd be up all night and not sleep in and miss my flight. Not to mention my regular wing loves to get drunk and didn't want him catching a DUI, so we ended up at EFS.

This can be a very "young" crowd. Stepped on the dance floor and was opened by this 20 something girl probably half my height literally molests me immediately grabbing my balls and having me lift her in the air.

She says: "Me and my girls came here from Barrie, we're staying at a hotel, won't you come by and have shots with us?"

I looked at her (a 6 at most....not ugly, but very petite n tiny) and her friends....ummm overall at most I'd say the highest was a 6.5. Too bad I can't go lower than a 7,lol. But the point is unlike some Roosh posts I've seen, I don't see the point going on these trips to small towns to game when many are coming here bored and looking for action. I think being in the right place and time.....the odd time you can score a quickie ONS with a 7 unless that's too low on your totem pole.

As the night went on I grabbed this half Metis/Czech blonde. Ah yes finally at least a 7 to me,lol. So we sit down and talk.....she's surprised to learn I'm twice her age!

I had to run so I took her #, when I get back we'll see if she's a flake like the bulk of women in that scene......or if she'll be the first flag I ever have half my age.

If I'm in my 40s and still being able to flirt with ( and bang the odd) 20 somethings here chiefly on clubs without feeling out of place i.e. grandpa......and without the additional advantage of day game or online/social circles then I don't see why Roosh men are so up in arms about being able to score women here unless they're fixated on holding out for supermodels?

If I had the time/resources to be in that scene (2 - 3 nights a week) I wouldn't have problems having a few women in rotation. Obviously not 8.5+ looking women but 7+s to keep me happy.

[DigitalNomad]

(12-24-2016 12:54 PM)Banna Wrote:  

But the point is unlike some Roosh posts I've seen, I don't see the point going on these trips to small towns to game when many are coming here bored and looking for action.

I have a friend who used to drive out to the college towns around Toronto every Thursday night for the different student nights. He'd go with a car full of friends and no where to stay and every one would clean up. Unfortunately he is now dating one of the Thursday night girls, although to his credit she is about a 9.

[Banna]

(12-24-2016 03:24 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 12:54 PM)Banna Wrote:  

But the point is unlike some Roosh posts I've seen, I don't see the point going on these trips to small towns to game when many are coming here bored and looking for action.

I have a friend who used to drive out to the college towns around Toronto every Thursday night for the different student nights. He'd go with a car full of friends and no where to stay and every one would clean up. Unfortunately he is now dating one of the Thursday night girls, although to his credit she is about a 9.

You know maybe my tone of being against trips to 705,519 & 905, etc land to game is a bit too harsh. It just sounds like from some previous posts guys have been blown out the water here by women and are seeking some kind of sanctuary by going out there to battle depression. It's good to hear guys are cleaning up using that method. This plus a recent post from a member here of gaming foreign women in hostels are things I never thought of either to game women.

Some have talked of picking up and relocating altogether partly because of them. But you have some like this recently banned member claiming to be cleaning up here? My same aged wing who came out of a long relationship is combining online+night gaming and just running amok with these Toronto women over the past 6 months.

Something is not right in our approach towards women if some are killing it and some are in famine. Some of this lack of success in Toronto should fall on us guys' shoulders. And that includes me, I've been guilty of tolerating some of these lousy heifers' behavior.

[Banna]

(12-24-2016 03:24 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 12:54 PM)Banna Wrote:  

But the point is unlike some Roosh posts I've seen, I don't see the point going on these trips to small towns to game when many are coming here bored and looking for action.

I have a friend who used to drive out to the college towns around Toronto every Thursday night for the different student nights. He'd go with a car full of friends and no where to stay and every one would clean up. Unfortunately he is now dating one of the Thursday night girls, although to his credit she is about a 9.

You know maybe my tone of being against trips to 705,519 & 905, etc land to game is a bit too harsh. It just sounds like from some previous posts guys have been blown out the water here by women and are seeking some kind of sanctuary by going out there to battle depression. It's good to hear guys are cleaning up using that method. This plus a recent post from a member here of gaming foreign women in hostels are things I never thought of either to game women.

Some have talked of picking up and relocating altogether partly because of them. But you have some like this recently banned member claiming to be cleaning up here? My same aged wing who came out of a long relationship is combining online+night gaming and just running amok with these Toronto women over the past 6 months.

Something is not right in our approach towards women if some are killing it and some are in famine. Some of this lack of success in Toronto should fall on us guys' shoulders. And that includes me, I've been guilty of tolerating some of these lousy heifers' behavior.

[goonies]

Any recs for NYE?

[Nascimento]

(12-28-2016 12:07 PM)goonies Wrote:  

Any recs for NYE?

Stay in. It's the absolute worst night of the year to be out.

[Banna]

(12-28-2016 05:13 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 12:07 PM)goonies Wrote:  

Any recs for NYE?

Stay in. It's the absolute worst night of the year to be out.

I concur all the $50-$60 establishments will be $10 - $20 next week. But I'm still tempted to go out lol.

I went to the Hilton ballroom hotel to see what a hotel/ballroom type event was like alone last year and it was terrible....DJ, women, etc.

Will probably go to Wildflower Sunday night.....I'm sure it'll be bumping.

[RBerkley]

[quote] (12-22-2016 10:36 AM)Curunír Wrote:  

[quote='Banna' pid='1468059' dateline='1482215452']
[quote='Screemingdead' pid='1467640' dateline='1482181600']

"1? Gimme a break Montreal is no oasis of beautiful women vs Toronto. The population is smaller overall than Toronto. There is more nationalities in Toronto than any city [/b]on planet Earth can claim to have so imho there's something for everyone. "

Are you even serious that Toronto girls are better looking than Montreal girls? Actually Montreal is an oasis and well known for it, since forever.

"What do you look for 8.5 - 10 exclusively? Those are tough to pull anywhere on the planet for a non 1%er average Joe person. Imho looks wise there's more than enough 7 - 8 looking women here to keep me happy. Now in terms of getting them in bed and attitudes are a another story for another day.....lol. "

Isn't game about getting the hottest women? Of course status, money and looks help, but if you cannot get the hottest women with your game, you need to keep going out and putting in those 10 000 hours.[b][/quote]

What's up with these Toronto loyalists dissing up your MTL post?

Inferiority complex in Toronto thread is strong, so instead the best option is to blindly accuse Montreal chicks of not being hot than the Chanty Binx specimens in Toronto.

I'm on the record saying that I didn't flag "The 6ix" for feminist trolling, unlike those who use strawman arguments & personal attacks on me, & then report me like a true Toronto citizen to get my inbox filled with Warning message though I ain't do anything.

If Toronto is that great, then why the need for people to diss Montreal chicks when they are in fact, way more hotter & more sexually liberated than chicks in the entire Canada?

Why the need to attack people with different views about Toronto? Smells like censorship & North Korea to me, but at least people in North Korea don't complain that much to get laid if ya know what I mean.

I'm in the U.S. South in any case. It isn't expensive to live in the USA compared to Canada, so people can quit lying that America is more expensive to live than in Canada. Sales Tax & real estate are considered lower in the USA overall compared to Toronto, despite that the USA is over 318 million people, while Canada is about 35 million people with a large landmass than the USA.

Unless one wants to become a billionaire, of course real estate where Billionaires live are going to be more expensive than the other cities, but a place in the middle of nowhere like Peel region, Ontario now charges rent about 600$ a month for a room, while in downtown Montreal near student residence, one can find a room in prime real estate for 450+ a month. Apartment Bachelor pads in the metro Montreal can be found easily for roughly 500$+ a month inclusive of utilities, wifi included.

It is hilarious to read the never-ending comments about attacking anyone supporting Montreal, but the Toronto loyalists wanna support some questionable pro-feminist, pro-gay member (The 6IX) to the extent that the same banned member wants to rally against Roosh on his own forum. Talk about Mutiny on the forum.

I ain't got time with this pro-Toronto loyalist cult mentality, but I ain't gonna tolerate people calling me names to defend a banned pro-feminist, pro-gay member who appears to want to incite conflict with Roosh despite knowing that attacking members using feminist language is definitely something which can get anyone banned or at least called out as a feminist, even in the MGTOW and Happier Abroad forums where the rules aren't that stringent to enforce.

I do find it weird however, that certain members can call people names & break the rule (don't be a jerk, don't start argument rule), & then report me typical of some feminist. There must be a valid reason for this weird behavior when it comes to a Toronto thread.

Anyways, as long Toronto women don't flock to the U.S. south (I doubt it; there are way more pro-Constitution people here), I'm all good. Toronto defenders ain't gonna trouble me here in the United States because the US South like ATL value respect for others & masculinity, unlike passive-aggressive behavior & inferiority complex. That stuff wouldn't slide here. People ain't got time with Chanty Binx attitudes & pro-censorship. People gotta eat....

[Banna]

Will this troll ever stop?

[DigitalNomad]

Nope

[Captain Gh]

I truly think we lost a great potential poster in the6ix! Some dude are major players down here... while having the ability to tolerate the dating aura of this city very well! I'm tolerating this city very well at the moment... just cause I'm not focusing on Poon... at All! the6ix just got a bit too passionate about his home turf... and made a costly mistake