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Existential crisis in game
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Existential crisis in game

I am kinda post modern in regards to truths, morality, and ideologies. Though I know of some fundamental lines I draw on the sand that won't be crossed, but otherwise things are blurry and vague. In this sense what is correct or not correct in regards to the different moralities in game is murky to me. Game for me is a way to see the fears and the walls I build around myself that keep me from what I want and punch through them. It's a way to see the matrix of relationships and to align my desires with my actions and respect that I deserve good outcomes. I also believe game at its core could be positive and allow you to connect with people on a level deeper than the BS facade we all put up and beyond just sex. For this reason I believe in win-win game. Every girl I fuck I want to give a good chance of coming away from the experience thinking that it was positive. That it somehow enriched her life. When that doesn't happen I am deeply disturbed. At the same time I know monogamy is not for me. I also do not put girls on a pedestal and know a huge number of them are deceitful, have a double standard, shallow, status chasing, and running their own agenda.
I am not a good looking guy, but not ugly. 5'5'', skinny, and asian. I come across very non-threatening. Game is about finding the right balance for yourself, for the situation, and for the girl as you advance logistical, sexual, and emotional escalation. Being non-threatening my game is very aggressive. I give zero fucks on a good day and my game gets tighter the hotter the girl (until they reached a 9 when I drop off). I try to bring the fun and improving. Because of my job and aspects outside of game I have status and DHV. Over the past year I have closed 8 girls (my work keeps me very busy and I only have short stretches where I can game). 6 of those 8 girls were SNLs. They all ranged from 6-8 (i am very picky, so real numbers), across all ethnicities, and all happened in the USA. I still see a lot of room for improvement in myself and in my game.
Got bored and had some time off and decided to go vietnam. Conversational in the language. I pipelined on VN cupid over 10 days. Have 50 + contacts that respond when I message or actively messages me. All in 6-8 range w/ 2 9s. 2 dates per day arranged.

The first day I brought a 7.5 girl to my room and got to second base. We are meeting later.
The second day I made out with a different 7 girl, groped the crap out of her, and stood a good chance of closing if she didn't have to fly out in 4 hours.
The third day I got a 7 girl to agree to go home w/ me for sex on the first date despite me telling her I am not ready for anything serious. On the way home she asked me if she will ever see me again, and I told her the truth, which is no. This eliminated the close, but she is still texting me. We will fuck if I tell her to come over.
I have two dates planned a day for the next 7 days. But this process is making me feel horrible. The dynamic is so unbalanced towards me in terms of money, status, and future that I feel like I am shooting fish in a barrel. I know the girls have their own agenda for some perceived form of personal gain, but I can't shake the feeling that I am pulling a Trump if I am not completely honest. I am not the paragon of virtue and ethics. One of my fbuddy this year had a boyfriend I knew about, that she was leeching off of, and I actively fucked her every which way. I found out a girl I was gaming was married w/ 3 kids, and tried to fuck her anyway and got very close. The difference is none of the girls I have had sex with or tried to this year were under any illusions. They knew what they were getting. One have described that I am "brutally honest".

So my question to you guys is what is your perspective on banging girls from third world countries where the dynamic is so much in your favor when they are under so many different delusions and being honest while trying doing it. I have a friend w/ strong game and he brings so much fun that girls will still fuck him while he is almost 100 percent honest. I can't bring that much fun.
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Existential crisis in game

If you don't feel comfortable doing something then don't do it... Or alternatively if you would like to become comfortable doing something then just do it a lot until it becomes so.

I am not dishonest about my intentions with women personally. I don't try to convince them I want to be in a serious relationship just to get in their pants. I have no moral hang ups about how I spendy time with women. If they pose the question "what are you looking for" I either give an obviously joking g answer or I tell them straight up I'm not "looking" for anything besides to meet and spend time with someone enjoyable.
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#3

Existential crisis in game

Just be upfront in your profile that you are looking for no strings sex.

Its really not fair (which you feel in your morals) to play the LTR/provider game in a third world destinations zone.
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Existential crisis in game

A man who has real game eventually evolves into something more real. It happens to all of us. You realize you don't need tricks, tactics, and lines to get laid, and another nut isn't worth manipulating someone else in a vulnerable situation so you can feel like you've accomplished something. If a woman tells a true player, "no", he doesn't ask himself how he can break though this LMR, he instead smiles and puts her in a taxi and wishes her the best in her life and sends her on her way.

And then he smiles and welcomes her, 10 minutes later, when she knocks on the door and she says, "I changed my mind."
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Existential crisis in game

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Posted by LINUX - 12-05-2016 17:06
A man who has real game eventually evolves into something more real. It happens to all of us. You realize you don't need tricks, tactics, and lines to get laid, and another nut isn't worth manipulating someone else in a vulnerable situation so you can feel like you've accomplished something. If a woman tells a true player, "no", he doesn't ask himself how he can break though this LMR, he instead smiles and puts her in a taxi and wishes her the best in her life and sends her on her way.

And then he smiles and welcomes her, 10 minutes later, when she knocks on the door and she says, "I changed my mind."

This guy is one of the few guys on the forum that actually gets the game and women. Only some men actually get it, most men don't.
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#6

Existential crisis in game

To answer the question that the OP posted. The women benefit from having you in there life. Remember even though she is a woman in a third world country, she is still a woman. Throughout human history only 40% of men got to reproduce while 80% of women got to reproduce. You say your skinny well you can work on that. You can start getting into healthy foods and lifting weights. Get more Protein in your diet, and the weightlifting will raise your testosterone. Your height wont be any problem in vietnam since chicks are also short there. If anything your average height in Vietnam. Well if your looking to "bring fun", start by getting rid of your guilt and enjoy the moment with the women. You've done pretty well so far with women under your circumstances so be proud of that. Tell yourself that your a western Asian man, and you have more to offer then the average Viet guy.
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Existential crisis in game

First you say "... none of the girls I have had sex with or tried to this year were under any illusions. They knew what they were getting. One have described that I am "brutally honest" and then you add .. "what is your perspective on banging girls from third world countries where the dynamic is so much in your favor when they are under so many different delusions and being honest while trying doing it". Either that doesn't add up or I don't get something here.


As for the other question.. your friend can fuck a lot cause he's FUN. That's what gets him ass even though he's very honest about his intentions. Fun kills logic and pumps up happy emotions. Your friend purposefully let girls know he has nothing serious to offer so that they don't take him seriously. Then he amplifies it with actually BEING FUN. He's consistent and he delivers. His whole trick is to get girls into fun state so they can self forget what they're doing with him. From there it gets absurd cause everything that's happening is just fun fun fun.

It's like peak of a house party where everybody is drunk to the point that it starts snowballing. Things get out of control cause everybody wants to get more drunk, more fun and more sexy. It's more more more and people try to outdo each other with stupid ideas, challenges, bets. That's how dick sucking contests happen, threesomes take place, and all that stuff. At that point it doesn't matter what type of a guy you are, all it matters is that your dick works well, you're not afraid to use it and you go with the flow. "What happens here, stays here" game.

Next day the same girls from that party will act very professional, innocent and hard to get making "serious" guys into them jump through countless hoops just to get a kiss.
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#8

Existential crisis in game

I don't understand OP's post. But I can tell you, he overthinks things way too much.

Game is a skill to increase your chances for having more and better women in your life. That's all.

The moment you start have a metaphysical breakdown, you're overthinking it. The fact you're turning game into work may be the reason you don't enjoy it.
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