I've half swallowed the so called "red pill" of AWALT, but still have reservations that I'd appreciate if someone could explain.
I've been living in the phils the past 4 years and of course the high SMV here of any foreigner has given me a "god mode" factor I've never had in my home country (australia), so it's allowed me a shit tonne of sexual and relationship experiences I'd otherwise not normally have had.
Over time I've evolved from the typical gold digger pretenders to much more quality girls who are brought up well with genuine life goals and receive nothing from me financially. It's the occasional gem I come across that makes me question AWALT. Now, I realize the counter argument to this is that the culture in the phils is not feminist like the west, and if the girls here were put into a feminist country like the US or Australia, that they would soon collapse into typical slutty behaviour. Same argument could be applied to a conservative bible-belt town in the US.
Thing is, after observing a lot of these girls who go overseas and come back to family after a year or so, a small minority of them don't develop the typical slutty tendencies inherent in the west. These girls are almost always from smaller cities outside manila where they're brought up well. I know of at least two who went on to get married with someone near their own age in the west and they seem genuinely happy like in a pre-1960's type of marriage. I'm not talking about the typical 20yo-60yo "mail order bride" relationships, but with an age gap where genuine mutual attraction is possible, where the guy has at least some SMV back at home.
I realize the stereotype of the girls here being gold diggers, but in my observation this just isn't the case in many areas outside the tourist hot spots/bars/dating sites, especially with girls that are from middle class families and are brought up well.
Keep in mind these so called "good girls" that I'm referring to here are a small minority of girls. I get it that most of the girls have an eventual goal of money/passport, and/or are hidden closet sluts. But when you make your game known that they're only a plate, or a local LTR, with no prospect of ever receiving anything financially, or ever going overseas (I have no plans to return to australia and am not a tourist) - it becomes much easier to sift through the majority of these pretenders and get to the gems.
One thing I will admit - hypergamy is definitely AWALT. I'd be nothing to the nice girls here if it wasn't for the higher SMV from being a foreigner in his 30's with a bit of game. That I completely concede and accept as AWALT.
But the supposed long term ulterior motives of women, or the cheating/slutty tendencies, I just have found too many exceptions.
If AWALT holds, how is it possible that virgins for instance are willing to lose it here (when this trait is so highly valued in the country), even when you make it known to them you're not looking for a LTR and you provide them nothing? One girl I'm seeing now, even when I tell her I'm seeing other girls still and her eyes get teary each time she fails to convince me to "just be a good guy now" - still seems genuinely in-love no matter what I do to push her away or treat her like shit? I know the love from her is real, and I can do anything I want to her.
She knows all we'll ever do is fuck, she receives nothing from me, she buys me dinner, cooks, cleans etc, perfect wife material. She just wants to be with me at all costs. She's committed to me whilst I bang other girls, and I know she's not banging other guys from experience. 99% of other girls would be, but I feel you can build up an intuition of when a girl is genuine after a while, at least so I think. This particular girl it's been going on like this for a year.
Other plates in the past have also been like this. It's rare, but it does happen. And often when I end it with them they frequently threaten suicide or something like that. Not all of them that show this level of loyalty are crazy though. I'm not leading these girls on, I'm honest about my lifestyle and that they can never expect anything from me, but the attachment grows with some of them regardless. And to be honest, I sometimes feel it too. Sometimes a lot.
So my question is, if AWALT truly holds, how is this sort of loyalty possible with a small but nevertheless apparent minority of girls? Is AWALT more applicable to feminist countries?
I get that the "female program" is present everywhere in every female. But surely so are genetic mutations, even epigenetic factors such as the girl's environment, that could evolve a woman in some places away from the slutty/cheating/ulterior motive tendencies of AWALT?
I concede this thinking of mine is most likely idiotic, I'd just like an explanation to counter it.
I've been living in the phils the past 4 years and of course the high SMV here of any foreigner has given me a "god mode" factor I've never had in my home country (australia), so it's allowed me a shit tonne of sexual and relationship experiences I'd otherwise not normally have had.
Over time I've evolved from the typical gold digger pretenders to much more quality girls who are brought up well with genuine life goals and receive nothing from me financially. It's the occasional gem I come across that makes me question AWALT. Now, I realize the counter argument to this is that the culture in the phils is not feminist like the west, and if the girls here were put into a feminist country like the US or Australia, that they would soon collapse into typical slutty behaviour. Same argument could be applied to a conservative bible-belt town in the US.
Thing is, after observing a lot of these girls who go overseas and come back to family after a year or so, a small minority of them don't develop the typical slutty tendencies inherent in the west. These girls are almost always from smaller cities outside manila where they're brought up well. I know of at least two who went on to get married with someone near their own age in the west and they seem genuinely happy like in a pre-1960's type of marriage. I'm not talking about the typical 20yo-60yo "mail order bride" relationships, but with an age gap where genuine mutual attraction is possible, where the guy has at least some SMV back at home.
I realize the stereotype of the girls here being gold diggers, but in my observation this just isn't the case in many areas outside the tourist hot spots/bars/dating sites, especially with girls that are from middle class families and are brought up well.
Keep in mind these so called "good girls" that I'm referring to here are a small minority of girls. I get it that most of the girls have an eventual goal of money/passport, and/or are hidden closet sluts. But when you make your game known that they're only a plate, or a local LTR, with no prospect of ever receiving anything financially, or ever going overseas (I have no plans to return to australia and am not a tourist) - it becomes much easier to sift through the majority of these pretenders and get to the gems.
One thing I will admit - hypergamy is definitely AWALT. I'd be nothing to the nice girls here if it wasn't for the higher SMV from being a foreigner in his 30's with a bit of game. That I completely concede and accept as AWALT.
But the supposed long term ulterior motives of women, or the cheating/slutty tendencies, I just have found too many exceptions.
If AWALT holds, how is it possible that virgins for instance are willing to lose it here (when this trait is so highly valued in the country), even when you make it known to them you're not looking for a LTR and you provide them nothing? One girl I'm seeing now, even when I tell her I'm seeing other girls still and her eyes get teary each time she fails to convince me to "just be a good guy now" - still seems genuinely in-love no matter what I do to push her away or treat her like shit? I know the love from her is real, and I can do anything I want to her.
She knows all we'll ever do is fuck, she receives nothing from me, she buys me dinner, cooks, cleans etc, perfect wife material. She just wants to be with me at all costs. She's committed to me whilst I bang other girls, and I know she's not banging other guys from experience. 99% of other girls would be, but I feel you can build up an intuition of when a girl is genuine after a while, at least so I think. This particular girl it's been going on like this for a year.
Other plates in the past have also been like this. It's rare, but it does happen. And often when I end it with them they frequently threaten suicide or something like that. Not all of them that show this level of loyalty are crazy though. I'm not leading these girls on, I'm honest about my lifestyle and that they can never expect anything from me, but the attachment grows with some of them regardless. And to be honest, I sometimes feel it too. Sometimes a lot.
So my question is, if AWALT truly holds, how is this sort of loyalty possible with a small but nevertheless apparent minority of girls? Is AWALT more applicable to feminist countries?
I get that the "female program" is present everywhere in every female. But surely so are genetic mutations, even epigenetic factors such as the girl's environment, that could evolve a woman in some places away from the slutty/cheating/ulterior motive tendencies of AWALT?
I concede this thinking of mine is most likely idiotic, I'd just like an explanation to counter it.