[FireStarter]

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

Alright guys thank you all for the viewpoints and harsh reality checks I really appreciate the thought some of you guys put into your responses.

"Which I'll now promptly ignore"

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

For those who are asking about my age, im 18, and as an economics student (I was the youngest person to ever attend this university, will be in junior year before I turn 19) I tend to think of everything in terms of cost/benefit and adjust for risk.

It's good that you're thinking in terms of cost benefit. Maybe it's because your young and haven't had enough experience but your skill in estimating risk is way off.

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

The cost of bringing her here, as far as I can forsee is a plane ticket which Im not even sure I would pay for. The cost of maintaining her is minimal given the structure I already live in, just another mouth to feed. That, coupled with going out would easily be covered by not having to go on dates and go out clubbing. Anyways my business is lucrative enough where the cost of maintaining her has a negligent effect on my decision.

The cost will not just be monetary, it will also cost you time. While you're trying to build yourself up she's going to be complaining how you never spend enough time with her. This happens with decent girlfriends, I imagine a relationship with a party girl would be 100 times worse in this aspect.

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

The real cost here comes when adjusting for risk, which wont be a monetary cost, it will be an emotional one. You cant really put a price on that. Worst comes to worst, I put her on a plane back and call it a day.

You're downplaying how much monetary risk there is. The worse case is that she gets sick of you being boring and working on your business, goes to town and starts hanging out with the people who can get her coke and other drugs.

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

The benefits though are huge. I get be with her and she can help me with my business and the housework. I would have much more spare time to pursue nobler endeavors since I wouldn't be on the hunt anymore.

The benefits you're imagining are pure fantasy. You won't have more time, you'll just be spending more time dealing with her drama.

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

I just see so much upside if things DO work out compared to only the negative emotional downside if they don't. Let me know what you guys think of this perspective.

The chance that this is going to work out how you imagine it is exactly 0%. You want it to work out so you're choosing to ignore all the evidence that says that it will, you're also choosing to ignore the very real risks, besides the emotional risks you've also got the risk to your money and career.

(11-07-2016 05:12 PM)ChinUpChestOut Wrote:  

Thank you again for your time!

I look forward to being among the others in this thread who have been ignored. Though hopefully it may stop someone less stubborn from doing something this retarded.

[fokker]

He'll probably wind up with a line through his name by the time the election is over.

[Rhyme or Reason]

OP, do us a favor, don't patronize us. We know better than you. You know we know better than you. So don't gives us that disingenuous bullshit about "appreciating" our time and thanking us for advice you won't think twice about ignoring.

As for the other replies

(11-07-2016 08:40 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Why did you ask for everyone's perspective if you weren't even going to take it into account?

Because OP isn't actually seeking advice,. He is came here seeking invalidation of his suspicion. He wanted to be told his instincts are wrong, which they are not. Let him learn the hard way, I hope it's not too expensive of a lesson for him.

He is either a woman trolling or is so deeply emasculated he can't think with anything other than his emotions, which is what is making him ignore all our advice despite a unanimous consensus.

The other posters talking about the monetary drawbacks of getting back with this chick are also missing the point. It's not only about the money he will spend / get stolen but also time and self respect, both of which are infinitely more precious than money. Keeping this girl around will drain the OP's soul day by day. Who needs that?

[Rawmeo]

OP, you got some pretty harsh advice in here, which is correct. Let me put that to you in a less harsh way.

I think we all know that your question was a rhetorical question. Currently, you seem to be letting your feelings take over logic, which is something only women do. You didn't actually want an answer, you most likely wanted other guys to think like you so you could feel better when you would choose the wrong path. You must consider that you are 18, and just starting in life. You will have plenty of other opportunities which will be way better than you are doing now.

Most of the guys who gave advice on this thread are older guys and some have decades of experience with women. We all know how this is going to end, and this is what we are trying to warn you about. If you bring her with you, it will be an epic "I told you so" moment. You won't be able to just "fly her back" if things don't work out - it won't be easy like that. She will likely sever ties with her home country and you will be stuck with a "but I have no place to go" and a crying girl when things don't work out. I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but by the way you wrote your post, you will probably fall in the trap if girls use crying to blackmail you. Since you're young, here's how it works: when a girl is crying, the only logical choice is to ignore it. If a girl cries and you listen to her, guess what she'll do next time she wants something. It's like a child, just bigger.

I'm out of advice for this case, but all the guys put the facts right here and you have a 21:0 ratio of people saying no. If 21 experienced guys with years of experience say no, and nobody said yes, there might be a reason for it. You have been warned, what you do is entirely up to you.

[Wahawahwah]

I saw this thread a couple of times yesterday and was about to write a long post, but

a) Red_Pillage already broke down the situation pretty succinctly
b) It was obvious that the OP with his name/age/post was only looking to vent and rationalize his decision of running back to her
c) OP will regret this decision eventually, because most of us have been there and seen how it plays out, which is why the results of the poll are skewed. Perhaps he hasn't, so he doesn't see it yet.
d) Options lead to instability. Since he clearly doesn't have another realistic prospect who is at least as hot as this chick is, her allure is greater.
e) Never listen to what women including your dad's gf says. She's shilling for the ex and you only believe it because you want to rationalize that decision.
f) OP is risk averse, like most people, and your cost-benefit analysis is flawed because it doesn't take into account this risk aversion or the fact that you currently do not have other options. Here's the real cost-benefit analysis --

If you stay with her, it's never going to be the same again. There will always be an element of distrust. She won't respect you for taking her back, and will also implicitly consider it carte-blanche permission to do whatever the fuck she wants in the future. Because of these two things, it is almost guaranteed that if you stay with her long enough, she WILL cheat on you, if nothing else, to shit test you. Your frame is already weak and will erode over time. You will waste a lot of time, money and energy into this relationship before it eventually gets torn apart. And then you will be right back to where you were, only older, none-the-wiser, and it will be harder for you to bounce back.

The other side is you ditch her like everyone else here is telling you to, masturbate for a few days weeks months years, get sick of being single, start approaching, get less risk averse (because the risk of being "single" is blown out -- it is entirely possible to enjoy being alone, and you learn so much about who you are as a person ...and the "risk" of getting rejected by women is illusory, because if you don't approach anyone, youre getting rejected 100%, only your ego doesn't get bruised). You'll pick up a lot on social dynamics, the nature of women, and how relationships should actually be handled, and come out of this a stronger, better and more rounder person.

But I get the feeling you're going to reject all of this advice and run back to her.. I only hope you stay around till after the eventual break up happens, come here and start to change for the better. Either way, good luck.

[AneroidOcean]

This chick speaks three languages but hasn't bothered to leaarn a lick of Spanish despite wanting to come to Argentina and be with you? You are a fool on that point alone.

Put everything of hers in a box. Burn it. Move on.

You'll thank yourself in a couple years, likely far less.

[Latan]

OP, go on, take her back, suffer the hard consequences (maybe for years), be sad and regretful.
This lesson will be written into your bones for life.
So you'll never make the same mistake again.

For now, you're not able to hear advices from more experienced people, so act and see for yourself.
No sarcasm in my words, really take back that drugged slut.

[BigL]

Why do you think this time will be different? Don't waste your time if you are looking for LTR.

There are so many more girls that can be more fun and exciting then her.

[Rob Banks]

(11-08-2016 12:44 AM)Wahawahwah Wrote:  

She won't respect you for taking her back...

Bingo.

[Mufasa]

She made out with a dude at a club..



She was smoking weed with some dudes on 420



She's crying after sex with you because she was with home boy like:



y'all don't talk for a year. she's like


Thats your romantic relationship right there with homegirl. Every time you think about her as a long term prospect I want you to think of those gifs...

hoes be hoein

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-13-2016 04:38 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

She made out with a dude at a club..



She was smoking weed with some dudes on 420



She's crying after sex with you because she was with home boy like:



y'all don't talk for a year. she's like


Thats your romantic relationship right there with homegirl. Every time you think about her as a long term prospect I want you to think of those gifs...

hoes be hoein

Pretty much .... heh. But it's all sooo much cheaper than going on dates in Argentina where you can hone your Game skills - that is something very important as a young man. But you live and learn.

The relationship won't last long unless your business goes off and she decides to get pregnant and collect child support payments. Then you will rue the day - not only financially but seeing how your child grows up next to a line of of "uncles" that your girl collects over the years: