[spanish_expat]

(10-28-2016 04:58 AM)Filbert Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 04:16 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  

Another day, she told me that she masturbated everyday watching to porn. And I said to myself: "why a woman should watch porn and masturbate?"

What's so bad about a chick masturbating to porn?

Uncontrolled lust

Uncontrolled lust + Alcohol -----> Ooopssss LTR...

Now it’s your time to guess on which contraceptive my girl was.

The gut connects all dots. Always.

[Rocha]

Some recomendations to The Duncan:

1- Keep having fun and enjoying your time with her
2 - Keep bangin her like a ho...no respect in bed.
3- Be ready to loose her anytime
4 - Try to meet and bang other girls on the side
5 - Whitout speaking or showing anything about past or present women, behave in a way that will make her worry about your past and present "slutiness". Not the other way around.

[GlobalMan]

(10-28-2016 04:35 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 04:25 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 04:16 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  

PS: I see lot of feminist men, here.

Oh, is that a fact, hombre? Tell us more.

What I had to say it is in my previous message.
I’ve lived in the US for a long while. Your women don’t respect you. Just turn on the TV and look at the advertisements.

That's not a response to the part I quoted.

Who are these feminist men? The guys saying he should continue banging and enjoying this girl who seemingly has a normal background and who has given him zero problems?

(10-28-2016 04:54 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  

American folks, you must immediately raise your standards for relationships, seriously. Your women are overweight because you keep dating them! You don’t have absolutely anything to gain from her previous experience.

OP had no mention of a fat woman, a woman who treated him poorly, a woman who has cheated on him, or an obvious whore. Either you're reading another thread or projecting your own experience on the guy.

[spanish_expat]

(10-28-2016 05:33 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

That's not a response to the part I quoted.

Who are these feminist men? The guys saying he should continue banging and enjoying this girl who seemingly has a normal background and who has given him zero problems?

That background may be "normal", from a feminist point of view.

In any case, not desirable for a (serious) girlfriend.

(I am assuming that the OP is considering going serious with the girl, otherwise we agree that her background is irrelevant)

[GlobalMan]

A girl who has had sex before shall not be desirable for a girlfriend?

We're getting way too many of the Sharia Forum spill off here lately.

What "background"? The only thing revealed by OP is that a girl treats him exactly how he wants to be treated, has no problems in any way, is attracted and attractive, and that she once banged a co-worker.

[Merenguero]

(10-28-2016 04:54 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 04:16 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  

PS: I see lot of feminist men, here. American folks, you must immediately raise your standards for relationships, seriously. Your women are overweight because you keep dating them! You don’t have absolutely anything to gain from her previous experience.

^^ It's funny because it's true

It's true, but he's just stating what is painfully obvious. Tons of losers in this country, both male and female. The top people in this country put the rest of the world to shame.

[spanish_expat]

(10-28-2016 05:43 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

A girl who has had sex before shall not be desirable for a girlfriend?

We're getting way too many of the Sharia Forum spill off here lately.

What "background"? The only thing revealed by OP is that a girl treats him exactly how he wants to be treated, has no problems in any way, is attracted and attractive, and that she once banged a co-worker.

No need to mention Sharias. America’s 1950’s was enough, or most of Western Europe in the 1970’s.

[GlobalMan]

You are an expert at deflection.

Nothing you've said or implied relates to what the OP has described about his relationship or this girl.

[spanish_expat]

(10-28-2016 05:55 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

You are an expert at deflection.

Nothing you've said or implied relates to what the OP has described about his relationship or this girl.

My original post was about my experience with "my gut". Then, it deviated to more general topics, that’s true.

From my part, I don’t have anything else to add. I don’t want to divert more the focus of this thread from OPs original request.

[Noir]

Jeez, what are you guys smoking?

Women like to fuck.

Women in 2016 are comfortable enough to let people know that they like to fuck.

Nothing out of the ordinary in this thread.

If it makes you uncomfortable, move on from her.

If you are fine with it and she is a good girl, keep her.

I stray from such judgment because I have fucked plenty and it would be pretty hypocritical on my behalf.

Sort out your screening mechanisms if it really bothers you but from what I can tell, this is your 'gut'.

Well mate, your 'gut' has a funny way of planting seeds in your mind and watering them via your insecurities.

We've all been there but at the rate that society is progressing, it becomes ever harder to keep up with chicks with high notch counts.

Another poster mentioned this, it is the price you pay for good sex. Don't let it intimidate you (Shoutout to Stalin) because if it is, that's on you and the fucked up thing is, this is a sellers market, with the pussy holding the power and she knows she can replace you.

More importantly bro, there is absolutely no reason to freak out over shit you can't control. What's in the past is in the past.

My girl had a MMF threesome once upon a time and it really pissed me off when I found it. Then I realized; a) I've done even more depraved shit and b) whats done is done, the future lays ahead.

If she is a good girl and shes with you, then why worry. She's not cheating, straying or being a bitch. She just got fucked a little too much but hey, she's still with you so if her sexual appetite is indeed pretty high, then you're obviously doing something right.

Look to the future, not the past.

Every chick has baggage so it comes down to what baggage you can handle and move forward.

A lot of them throw it out there to see how you can handle it. Either via their sexual history or bringing up penis sizes (purposely or not) so man the fuck up and Roger Federer her shit by sending her some backhands back (not physically) and amp it into a usable sexual energy (i.e. direct this shit) or be stoic as fuck and let her fall into place.

I believe this is typical in the first 6 months where you and her are going back and forth as to establishing power.

If this shit if fucking with your sanity, move on.

I feel like the guys who are claiming this virginal delightful pussy galore just waiting round the corner were either really lucky or haven't fucked enough women over the age of 24 to see the true nature of women.

#teamwhocares

p.s. Suits hit the nail on the head too - this feeling wont go away easily so act accordingly.

[Easy_C]

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I feel like the guys who are claiming this virginal delightful pussy galore just waiting round the corner were either really lucky or haven't fucked enough women over the age of 24 to see the true nature of women.

Truth. Very few guys actually have that. I did, but I'm not blind to the amount of luck involved that I was looking in the right place at exactly the right time to run into mine.


Then again I am a bit concerned if that's bothering you. You need to figure out exactly what it is about her behavior that causes it to bother you know.....and if it's just your insecurities that should still be a reason to move on. There is no room for insecurity in an LTR and unless you have a special saint of a woman those insecurities will cause you to blow out in the long run.

[kaotic]

There's some ego hamstering going on, on both sides of this conversation.

You've got purists, and paper tiger standards on here.


Look, Duncan's gut told him something he didn't like - that's what it boils down too.

Secondly, this gut feeling of his WILL poison his mind - he'll analyze her a bit more differently every day moving forward.

Thing is HE shouldn't be worried about her, matter of fact SHE should be worried about him.

Flip the script.


This is another reason why men should have OPTIONS not just one girlfriend. That way it calms your gut and ego down.

I don't do relationships anymore, flings and mini LTR's without the titles. (If it leads to something serious, I'll decide down the road what I want to do)

I'd rather not be in a relationship and have some booty calls and bang girls on and off.


Duncan can still have fun with her and have a good time, but if shit gets serious you can bounce as well.

I highly doubt Duncan sees this chick as wifey category.


Also a side note: I know Duncan's struggled a bit with girls in the past a few of his old threads did show he needed stronger game/frame. He did pedalstalize a few girls as well.

So to be honest - everything has clearly improved and is moving forward.

This scenario is another step in self improvement, game, and women.

[el mavericko]

Has anyone saying sex with a virgin isn't fun actually fucked a virgin before? What the fuck could possibly be more fun than training a girl who sex is still an actual intimate, special experience for, to please, suck, and fuck you EXACTLY the way you want her to? Christ guys I like banging sluts too and will definitely keep one around as long as I can if she's a cool chick and fun to be around but for the love of god can we not pretend basic bitch miles of cock pussy is preferable in any way, shape, or form to the sweet nectar of the gods that is virgin pussy? Edit - *in the context of an LTR*

Again, I am not at all against banging sluts and enjoying them for what they are. There's no hiding from the fact that they make up the overwhelming majority of all women in 2016. I know it's tempting to hamster away a slut's past because finding a young, quality chick that wants to settle down early isn't exactly easy (or even possible for some) these days but that sure as hell doesn't mean a slut is PREFERABLE. Just easier.

[heavy]

What are you looking for? Are you looking for a potential wife or mother of your children?

Are you looking for girlfriend who loves to fuck (could be long term or short term)? (they usually have a higher notch)

Girlfriends who love to fuck are awesome, because they love to fuck. Girlfriends who don't love to fuck aren't awesome, but they might make a good wife/mom. These are not well defined, merely generalities.

As others have said, follow your gut.

I don't really think about a girl's notch count...call me crazy . A hot babe who I click with and who likes me lots...I'm in. Of course, I rarely get "boyfriended"...I like them just on the edge.

[RunsWithScissors]

My last LTR of 3 years was a huge self-proclaimed slut, she told me stories that were hard to believe. Polyamory, bisexual, swinging, gang bangs, pretty much whatever you can imagine, I never asked her notch count because I really didn't want to know the answer. It was very difficult for me to accept and was a consistent issue for us in our relationship. On the negative side I couldn't imagine how I could be special to her after everything she'd done with other guys. A lot of my issues with her past were due to my insecurities.

On the positive side, I got the best sex of my life for 3 years and did things with her some of which I hadn't (yet) seen in porn or even fantasized about. Threesomes, intense BDSM, whatever I wanted pretty much whenever I wanted. I learned some valuable skills and benefited directly from her extensive past experience. And my time with her ultimately helped me to not care so much about the past experiences of new partners and enjoy the present time with them. Plus she had several other qualities that I greatly appreciated.

I've since learned that she was not a good choice to LTR, for various other reasons, but am glad for the experience I had.

[John_Galt]

Some of the responses here are funny.

"Keep her around, nothing wrong with sluts! Hell, you're a slut too! Double standards!"

Your hamsters are on steroids.

Let's break this down:

1. "Nothing wrong with sluts/all girls are sluts". Sure, most of the women I've fucked are sluts. You won't see me writing about how woeful it is to get free sex. But OP started a post about one particular girl FOR A REASON. What is that reason? Because he is in a COMMITTED MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH A SLUT HE HAS FEELINGS FOR.

There is only one way this will end up. And it isn't good.

Telling him to basically "man up" and "accept her past" is some square shit. That's what betas do. Nothing wrong for enjoying her for what she is: A slut. Use her and then dispose of her, but DON'T get feelings for her. Your gut is ALWAYS right----period.

2. "Double standards---you're a slut too!"

I can't even believe someone made this argument here, in this forum.

There's a saying I like: "When a man is able to have sex with a lot of different women, it's because he is a Skeleton Key. When a woman sleeps with a lot of different men, she's just a shitty lock."

In other words, would you put your valuable possessions in a safe where every 5th key in the world would open up your lock? If you would, you're not very bright.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex. As men, it is our job to pursue sex. It is a womans job to only allow men who are worthy to fuck her. Todays women, by and large, let anyone with a little game into their pussy. Which means they are shitty gatekeepers.

If Rooshs bodyguards let just anyone approach him during the meetup outrage, they wouldn't have been very useful. Women are the same way.

No one here EVER said "Don't fuck sluts". They said "treat sluts like what they are----sluts". You don't LTR a whore. If you do, you're a dumbass. Make her a plate, make her a fuckbuddy, let her THINK she's your girlfriend----but don't be monogomous and don't catch feelings. You guys make a big deal about protecting your assets but think nothing of your time or emotional health. It's mind-blowing.

[Rhyme or Reason]

She's late 20's and single.

She's taken an inordinate amount of dick. That's all but a guarantee.

She's been stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey, time and time again.

And she loved it!

Feel better yet?

@kaotic

Quote:

I highly doubt Duncan sees this chick as wifey category.

The OP is experiencing the exact type of cognitive dissonance that occurs when you know the chick you're fucking is a whore, but since she is very into you and treats you well, you want to overlook this incredibly huge flaw. I've been there more times than I can admit. We want a chick who fucks good, cares for us, ect. But what happens when said girl is a cock hungry slut? This post.

@OP

Quote:

A lot of my issues with her past were due to my insecurities.

That's bullshit feminist programming you've been told to believe. Cut that shit out. It's innate; men are disgusted by promiscuous women (insofar as they are looking for an investment from you). Chalk it up to nature not insecurities.

I'll also echo Trav here and say listen to your gut. I can't remember the last time mine was wrong. Just know that you'll never have complete information, no matter how hard you try to get it. Your gut is subconsciously connecting the dots for you and warning you.


My advice? Just slow your roll. Keep banging her and try keeping her at a distance emotionally. Though that can be hard to do.

(10-28-2016 04:35 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

So many puritans. Dudes in here trying to talk a guy out of spending time with a girl he likes because she has been with a few dudes before him.

What's up with this "Puritan" bullshit? It's been thrown around a few times on the forum and is sublimely fucking asinine. If a guy doesn't want a used up whore to be the mother of his kids, he' a puritan. It's called having standards that don't wilt at the first sign of a chicks "coolness". If you want to be that guy holding hands with a chick who was the town bike, go right ahead, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give that kind of advice to someone seeking a second opinion. How soon players forget that girl game exists too. Some are better at it than others. This chicks is likely obtuse, unaware, or just brainwashed by feminist yougogirlism to know that she's put her foot in her mouth. I'm not one of those virgin-only types but there's a big distinction between the two. Girls that talk about their sexual escapades openly are whores. Especially those who talk about such things with their boyfriends.


"A few dudes". Assuming for the moment she's even remotely attractive, and given the profile OP provided, I'd say it's more than a few. This bothers OP to the point that he saw it necessary to make a post about it. I believe it's our duty to share our thoughts on the matter, anything less would be doing him a disservice.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I can fuck as many chicks as I want, and I expect any potential relationship partner to have limited sexual experience. If you think that makes me a hypocrite, a misogynist, or that I am a walking "double standard" then I will wear that label proudly.

[polymath]

Don't let her get into storytelling mode about her sexual history.

If you have been with her for this long then you must like her. Focus on those things instead. You can't reach back into the past and alter her imperfections.

If it really bothers you a lot, the only way around it is to break up with her. You have to decide that for yourself.

[vinman]

(10-28-2016 12:35 AM)John_Galt Wrote:  

Stalin is wrong on every level.

First of all, the best girl I've EVER been with was a virgin when I met her. I confirmed this---when we first had sex, her pussy wasn't bleeding, and I busted her hymen, then blood. Virgin.

Now, the FIRST time we had sex, was it amazing? No. But I taught her to fuck EXACTLY how I like to fuck. Taught her to suck cock EXACTLY how I like my cock sucked. After a month of sex everyday, this girl was a fucking pornstar with me. It was fantastic.

It's MUCH easier to teach someone how to do something if they don't already have preconceived notions based on what someone else taught them.

He's also wrong on the other thing. I was thinking about this exact thing earlier today. I dated a slut for 2 years---we just broke up. She was cheating. Now, she wasn't even a major whore----she had been with 5 men at 19. A lot of guys think that's not many----but I call it a slut. Anyways, what I sum it up like this:

If you weren't her first, you can be sure you won't be her last.

Period. No if's, ands or buts.

Now, if you're just fucking her, who cares? But don't let feelings get involved, don't let kids get involved, and don't let the idea of marriage EVER enter your mind.

No hymen, no diamond. The end.

Damn! Who is John Galt?
I had a LTR that did hoe shit back in the day. This immediately eliminated her as a wife. She was relegated to a girlfriend that I fucked around on constantly. I essentially used her as a training aid for future long term relationships. Listen to your gut. Your inner voice is there to save you when your conscious mind is being a pussy.

[John_Galt]

I would like to correct a long-standing false assumption.

That is that a woman needs to have a lot of sexual partners (aka a high "notch count") to be good or adventurous in bed.

This is NOT the case.

Any man who has had a relationship with a girl who was a virgin prior to him will back me up on this: Girls who are virgins when you meet them, develop into some of the most amazing partners you could ever want.

That is not to say that all virgins are amazing. Of course, mental health issues (including deep rooted insecurities regarding sex) will not be rendered obsolete merely because she has a hymen. Women with serious mental defects (anything that a psychologist would label a problem) are ALWAYS damaged goods, no matter what their notch count is.

TL;DR

Practice makes perfect. Do you need to use every different style of guitar to become good at playing guitar? Of course not. You can use the same guitar for years and practice everyday and it will make little to know difference as opposed to constantly switching guitars. Same with sex. A girl can have one partner for months or years and learn to be very good in bed. In fact, if the guy teaches her correctly, that girl will be better in bed than the woman with 20 partners who were ONS.

I have no idea where this myth that a woman needs to be a slut to be good in bed came from, but let's put it to rest. Sex is something you learn from practice. A high number of partners is not a prerequisite to a good lover.

[GreenHills]

(10-27-2016 10:34 PM)TheDuncan Wrote:  

Anyway she is very good in bed, we have great sex and she obviously knows what shes doing, she has also told me some stories of guys she slept with.

Why? This is the problem, not the fact that she slept with men.

I find it disrespectful when a woman indulges in details of her sexual past. To me it says one of these:

1. "I'm a desirable woman, look at how men have been into me". But she's saying it in the dumbest possible way. Insecure bitch who uses men to validate herself. Might cheat.

2. "I'll feed you fun stories from my past, because I know that you're not going to do anything about it and I enjoy knowing that you're afraid to do anything about it". Basically a shit test.

3. "I'm dumb and don't know what to talk and not to talk about".

[John_Galt]

Agree with GreenHill.

Although this is a lesser issue, it is an issue.

A woman with common sense or social awareness should know NOT to bring up past lovers or sexual experiences with a current boyfriend. Women who choose to do this think that men and women value the same things, i.e. if she had found out that you had a high number of attractive previous sexual partners, it would be appealing to her. Obviously as men, this is NOT attractive (it goes with the above saying, about a woman being a lock and men being keys).

Women who believe men think the same way they do are either stupid, socially inept, or such raging whores that they do not care.

No matter what, it's not a good sign.

All this talk about OP being "insecure" is straight out of the feminists playbook. It isn't insecure to be wary of investing in something unstable----it's common-fucking-sense. And lets be honest with ourselves here: There are very few men who can spend a long period of time with one woman monogamously and not invest significant time and emotional capital into her. Unless you're a sociopath, being with one woman exclusively for a prolonged period will cause you to become attached to her. And whats the point of investing in something guaranteed to give a negative return?

You should value your time and emotional well being just as you value your assets.

[Sonoma]

Easy for you, even easier for the next guy

[philosophical_recovery]

(10-28-2016 05:54 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  

[Virgin's don't suck in bed]

I've known a handful.

The first one I had was the most obedient, willing little cocksucker and cum taker in my early life. And I needed very little game to pull it off (was very clueless). Was also the first girl that let me put it in her ass, and it was her idea.

Her parents even let us sleep in the same room at their place, where I did all kinds of kinky shit to her. God bless that girl. I wish I still had the pictures she sent me, of which there were many.

I've know a few others that literally had a single sexual experience or were practically virgins. They were, for the most part, extremely giving, obedient, and fun. Two of them happened to also be about ~100-110lbs, so my 6+ feet was able to pick them up and just fuck them while holding them off the ground for quite some time. They love that stuff.

The most recent one was much older before she lost her virginity to me, mid-late 20s. Problem: She spent almost her entire adult life fucking a vibrator. She was so in-tune to her singular way of getting off that sex, when she wanted to get off and not please me, was a ridiculously monotonous chore. I was pretty much having to be a vibrator, not a fucking man.




But OP needs to decide what he wants. If I had a cool girl of that age that I knew had a slutty past I would totally be having sex while hitting on other girls. But, it really depends on the details of the situation. She will likely sense something is up, and act in a way that depends on her. You cannot control this. If you continue to plow while hunting for girls with less checkered pasts, then you have to accept the fact that you will likely lose whatever you have with her.

[Comte De St. Germain]

A slut is a slut. Hate, disgust, and your sense of superiority are just as good ammo to fuck as any other. All the venom in my body needs to get out some way or another. We all need a slut in our lives for that reason if not just for quick, fast sex.

Every woman loves a fascist.