[Tenebrous]

Anybody watching WestWorld?

Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins are absolutely fantastic in it.

Here is a trailer:

Here is an internet site(use ad blocker) where you can watch it for free.

http://www.tvmuse.com/tv-shows/Westworld_39662/


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[Mage]

From the trailer I learned that the main hero is a female robot who is set on a journey of understanding her world and self empowerment against the old white patriarchy (Anthony Hopkins).

Verdict: Not interested. Altrough I do like Hopkins as an actor I cringe watching females do things they never do in real life like understanding how world works and fighting to change it wisely. Even if they are robots. I also don't like robots and don't care for their struggles. We live in a world where we are forced to accept women as equals. I don't look forward to a world where we would have to accept robots as equals. Especially not female robots.

[captain_shane]

I think it's excellent so far.

[Barron]

(10-24-2016 12:07 PM)Mage Wrote:  

From the trailer I learned that the main hero is a female robot who is set on a journey of understanding her world and self empowerment against the old white patriarchy (Anthony Hopkins).

Verdict: Not interested. Altrough I do like Hopkins as an actor I cringe watching females do things they never do in real life like understanding how world works and fighting to change it wisely. Even if they are robots. I also don't like robots and don't care for their struggles. We live in a world where we are forced to accept women as equals. I don't look forward to a world where we would have to accept robots as equals. Especially not female robots.

I find the show very entertaining despite agreeing with everything you've said. It is fiction after all.

I'm most interested to see how they're going to deal with AI becoming self-aware in a believable way. And once that happens, how will that intelligence react to an abusive, flesh and blood creator?

[spokepoker]

I'm enjoying the series so far. So I'm guessing there is no romeworld or medievalworld (or futureworld?, or was that the second movie?)?

I wonder if they are not properly formatting for each loop reset, like lots of 1's and 0's left over from each loop compound to create "memories" of previous loops. I guess the park couldn't afford bleachbit. Not to mention whats-his-face fucking around with dolores's dreams for his own amusement or experimentation. When shit goes down in the park it's gonna be his fault, like when they forgot to carry the one and all the robots in itchy and scratchy land went haywire.

I hope they go in depth about how the hosts are created, are they organic compound covered, so they rot in the sun? What's the blood? Do they compost food for fuel and "warmth"?

[TrifeLife]

Posted this in the TV show thread, but WYB one of the hot 'host' chicks, knowing that she wasn't real. Like early in the 2nd episode when he's picking out his gear?

One thing I don't like is how they take the one alpha, dgaf type guy and use him to normalize gay shit, like when they get off the train and he walks off arm in arm with a girl and another guy, and also later when he's banging one of the 'host' and there's a guy there rubbing him.

Would you go to west world?

[MikeS]

Just finished the fourth episode - definitely liking it so far, despite also agreeing with the comments about the overly self aware and perceptive women (Dolores and Maeve, but the latter is a hooker so for now the gender roles of the pretend era are mostly kept intact).

Ed Harris as The Man in Black is pretty damn awesome.

Hadn't seen the trailer before - gives off a few hints of future episodes.

(10-24-2016 03:53 PM)TrifeLife Wrote:  

Posted this in the TV show thread, but WYB one of the hot 'host' chicks, knowing that she wasn't real. Like early in the 2nd episode when he's picking out his gear?...

She's indistinguishable from a real human - and even with what outwardly appears as consciousness - so sure. She'd probably be programmed to be a great lay, and in the off chance she wasn't I'm all for the novelty factor of at least once trying to bang a (non-metallic, life like) robot. Just as I would go all Captain Kirk and bang sexy green aliens if that was an option.

[sterling_archer]

They are same in feel of the "flesh" as we. Only the first models had non fluid movements and were more terminator like in nature, metallic skeleton with flesh over it.

Btw, WB Dolores

[Mr. D]

That reminds me, I haven't seen the original movie in a while...

[Praetor Lupus]

They've thrown quite a few twists and mysteries into the first three episodes. It's an intriguing series and one I'll probably keep on watching.

Strangely high amount of random girl-on-girl action already, though.

[TripleG]

I would give westworld 4/5 stars so far. Some of the subplots are a bit hard to understand, including the plot about the maze.
Btw, Clifton Collins as the outlaw (who is supposed to die but never does) Lawrence is awesome in this series.



Also, I WB all those female drones in the series. Have yet to see an unattractive one.

[Suits]

I knew that this show was potentially very special after watching just half of the first episode. It's very cleverly done.

However, there is a possibility that once the novelty of the first few episodes wears off, the writing will crater à la Lost if the writing team writes themselves into a corner.

There is one flaw in the story. Perhaps the guns can be designed to not fire bullets if not pointed at a robot, but what if a bullet goes through a robot and hits a human? Or what is stopping a human for mistaking another human for a robot and stabbing them? Surely the technology could not exist to prevent a knife from doing its job, short of the having the blade automatically collapse into the handle if used on a human target. Altogether, however, it seems too elaborate to be real, even in a future reality.

[TrifeLife]

By the time technology has advanced to the point that we can create lifelike androids who posses near-true artificial intelligence, we will probably be able to simulate full-sensory virtual reality by way of direct stimulation to the brain. This would provide much broader alternative reality possibilities than just the Wild West.

[sterling_archer]

Suits, it will have 5 seasons. Who knows if the "freshness" of the concept will dry if it will be good during all these years.

Bullet probably stops as it goes into the Host, so it can't hit human, they have low penetration. But something tells me there is insurance from the park that you are completely safe there and no other guest can hurt you, but we haven't seen this element of story yet and I am sure you are not the only one regarding it as a potential "plothole".

[Suits]

(10-25-2016 01:12 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Suits, it will have 5 seasons. Who knows if the "freshness" of the concept will dry if it will be good during all these years.

My bet is yes, the show will lose it's freshness in three seasons or less and they'll be forced to engage in torture porn (SEE: The Walking Dead) to maintain viewership.

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Bullet probably stops as it goes into the Host, so it can't hit human, they have low penetration. But something tells me there is insurance from the park that you are completely safe there and no other guest can hurt you, but we haven't seen this element of story yet and I am sure you are not the only one regarding it as a potential "plothole".

This makes sense with a bullet to center-mass or to the brain, but what if the bullet penetrates the Host's neck?

The first couple episodes demonstrated that a bullet to the neck can occur.

[sterling_archer]

If it penetrates completely the host and hits guest, it will not happen anything to guest. Actually it wasn't described how guns work there, they have bullets and obviously they work like in real life but something on guest stops them.

Someone said that heat from human body stops them, or maybe that bullets work like airsoft. But this "airsoft" theory seems weird as bullets really mess up hosts, maybe they have their flesh designed to violently react to the entry of bullet. Maybe there is really simple explanation for how this works.

[spokepoker]

When Mcpoyle got shot (I don't know the actors name, just what he played in "It's always sunny") he was in some pain, probably got a bruise, so maybe it is frangible low velocity slugs. That brings into question how brittle are the hosts? Maybe their 'blood' is under higher pressure, so the skin is more likely to break on impact/slice (dulled knives?).
Repair must be an absolute bitch.

[BelyyTigr]

(10-24-2016 10:49 PM)Suits Wrote:  

I knew that this show was potentially very special after watching just half of the first episode. It's very cleverly done.

However, there is a possibility that once the novelty of the first few episodes wears off, the writing will crater à la Lost if the writing team writes themselves into a corner.

I thought some of the 1st series was really clever. Some just didn't have enough whatever.

I was really excited when the 2nd series started. But the constant flitting between times etc has sadly annoyed me a bit. Stories should drag you in and make you want more. They should guide you easily. Not force you to be super perceptive and remember every tiny little clue. I really wanted to like it, but it seems a bit of a chore more recently because of all this.

Watching Westword (the aftershow discussion) is sometimes interesting. They had the 2 cowriters - a husband and wife. He seemed really smart, a nice guy who spoke when necessary and what he said was worth listening to. His Mrs just seemed to be all babble and bullshit, speaking and THEN thinking, trying to be the centre of it all. The show has got increasingly schizophrenic and of course I can't help but feel its due to the relationship between the 2 cowriters. Can't help but think she's getting a free ride on his talent : D

[Suits]

I stopped watching after 5 or so episodes. Being a smart, intelligent show does compensate for being a boring, all over the place show.

[MikeS]

Season 1 was mostly great. Season 2 had its moments but was mostly a mess. With plenty of season 2 criticism from the mainstream press hopefully they'll tighten up season 3. I have some degree of confidence with Jonathan Nolan as show runner and writer - his previous TV show Person of Interest, on network TV starting out as a procedural and then becoming heavily serialized in later seasons, was quite good, despite obviously having boring episodes here and there with 20+ episodes per season except for the last.