[Drazen]

(02-14-2017 06:47 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Am I really missing something, or is the simple solution just to live in a beach town, if you can afford it, only go out in that town (or the immediate surrounding area), and mostly only target girls from that town? That's what I did and logistics were never an issue. I never once thought about living in or going out in an inland part of Southern California.

The best girls are around Hollywood/Beverly Grove. That's the best place to live. The girls are not as stuck up as the beach towns/westside. But essentially, yes. If you live in a cool area and date local girls, you'll less likely be flaked on. The problem is one of distance/traffic.

I rarely go east on the weekends.

[DVY]

Get used to running up Uber bills. I ferryy girls from.their house to mine, go for drinks/sushi near me, smash then send home in uber

[kmhour]

what do you guys think about the vibe in DTLA? friend just moved there for a promotion and I'm definitely going to visit. he is set up with a pretty solid pad in the thick of things but I don't know what the bar scene is like around there.

[RDF]

(02-15-2017 12:16 AM)kmhour Wrote:  

what do you guys think about the vibe in DTLA? friend just moved there for a promotion and I'm definitely going to visit. he is set up with a pretty solid pad in the thick of things but I don't know what the bar scene is like around there.

I'm not a fan. It's true that DTLA has changed dramatically over the past 10 years (nobody would go out in downtown back then), but I still don't really like it. The worst are the rooftop bars, Perch and The Standard. Those might be my two least favorite venues in the world. On a weekend evening you'll wait in line for over an hour, pay cover (at least at Standard), and be greeted with tatted up 35 year old dudes in button downs 2 sizes too big, and a whole lot of ugly, chubby, or ghetto chicks; there will be handful of bangable girls but not worth the effort at all. The quality is MUCH lower than what you'll see in Samo or Hollywood. At least the view of the city is cool.

One spot I like is Exchange LA. It's an EDM club, 3 stories, and generally pops off, just avoid it when they have a dubstep show (will be 90% dudes on those nights). You'll find a ton of hot asian girls there, and you can run laps around the place all night, it's as big as a Vegas club and there aren't a lot of clubs like this in LA. There are a few cool bars scattered throughout - I've had fun at Library Bar (I actually think it has a better crowd than either of the rooftops) and Casey's (more of a college bar). I've heard good things about Seven Grand. You'll definitely find a fun venue that fits your personality if you look around, it's just hit or miss.

People often say girls in downtown are more "approachable" than in other parts of LA, which might be the case in some places, but you're giving up on quality. I don't really think it's worth the tradeoff for the most part.

If you have a solid pad you can crash at, sure, give it a shot for a night or two. There are hidden gems and people will be out. Just don't waste your time waiting in line at Standard or Perch on a weekend night.

[Drazen]

I hate the Standard, but don't mind the Perch early on (won't wait in line). A little later it does get a little ghetto with East LA coming into the spot trying to be all fancy though. Its good on the weekdays in the Summer, I've met a few USC girls there and there are always a ton of Asian/International girls on Thursdays when the weather is good.

I've been to some decent weeknight events at Petit Paris and a few other spots out there. Also like Little Easy (New Orleans themed bar).

I like some of the bars in Little Tokyo (Far Bar, Wolf and Crane and The Edison). I mean its nice to go out there once or twice a month but I can't imagine living there, its industrial hell and the vibe is usually pretty ghetto.

[jselysianeagle]

(02-15-2017 03:21 PM)RDF Wrote:  

The quality is MUCH lower than what you'll see in Samo or Hollywood. At least the view of the city is cool.

...

People often say girls in downtown are more "approachable" than in other parts of LA, which might be the case in some places, but you're giving up on quality. I don't really think it's worth the tradeoff for the most part.

This 100% echoes my sentiments as well. DTLA has seen a whole host of new, cool places open up in the last 5 or so years, but truth be told the attractiveness of the crowd has yet to catch up to the standards of Hollywood/SaMo/Manhattan Beach etc. That's probably also why the women are nicer - they're just not as hot! I remember goin out to Golden Gopher, Elevated (or was it Elevate Lounge?) etc. years ago - back then there were very few other options in that area.

It's much the same here in NYC, FWIW. Brooklyn tends to have a more mellow crowd with friendlier women compared to Manhattan, but as is the case with DTLA, overall you're trading attractiveness for niceness. So it goes...

[Armogan]

(02-14-2017 03:24 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

That isn't true at all. I've met girls for tea/coffee/smoothie/FroYo at 8 PM before. Heck, when I was in Chicago, I met girls several times at the park during the night for our first meet-up.

Good point. It is quite asexual, lol. My go-to day 2 in NYC/Chicago was going to the park. Costs $0.00, it's beautiful, and you can escalate. Unfortunately, I've only had 1 girl down to go to the park for a day 2 since moving to LA. I figured the next cheapest thing was going to a coffee shop/FroYo joint. I'm really tight on cash.

What about sticking with a park date (if possible) or coffee shop date then serving her alcohol when I pull her back to my place? That way, it'll be far cheaper. I could buy a cheap bottle of vodka and cranberry juice. I would serve her the cocktail and just serve myself cranberry juice.

Believe you, me, it's true.

Over my last 7 weeks in college in Evanston, IL (right outside Chicago), I pulled 7 times. Every single date was a 1st date at the park. $0.00 spent.

Keep in mind, I only had sex with 1 of those girls, lol. I pulled 4 or 5 other girls back to my apartment over the rest of my last 2 years in college. I met all of those girls, too, at the park for my 1st date.

Also, I pulled the 1 girl who was down for the park in LA back to my place. We just made out. No lay. She said she'd come back again and she's texted me a few times since then, but alas, she's had cold feet.

Pulls are a gimme if you set up the date near your apartment, even if you spend nothing. I just say, "Let's go for a walk," and dunzo, I lead her through my door. The girl's in my joint. Doesn't mean a whole lot if you don't get the lay and that's been my main sticking point: end game.

I always wondered why my lay/pull rate was so low. It's clear that alcohol is a must. I always wondered, too, how fellow dudes who don't drink alcohol consistently convert their pulls to lays (assuming they're telling the truth). I guess you just have to be comfortable serving the girl alcohol while you drink seltzer.

I don't understand your obsession with the parks. It just boggles my mind. MacArthur Park, That's where Baby Boy got shot - everyone knows that. Forget parks.

Baby Boy Got Shot at MacArthur Park

You are trying to have girls meet you there? Maybe after you smash a few times you can go walk around echo park lake for a bit, but not a first date. My point is this is not working for you, you need to adapt and be flexible.

If its not bars/restaurants/clubs its apparently not MacArthur Park either. Try something new.

[Naughty By Nature]

(02-15-2017 12:16 AM)kmhour Wrote:  

what do you guys think about the vibe in DTLA? friend just moved there for a promotion and I'm definitely going to visit. he is set up with a pretty solid pad in the thick of things but I don't know what the bar scene is like around there.

I haven't been in the 4 months since I've been in LA but it's the most impoverished neighborhood in ALL of LA County (forget just the city of LA) and my roommate who's been here for 6 years says it looks like a third world country.

http://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/in...hood/list/

LOL at 15K median household income. Downtown LA makes Detroit sound like Malibu.

[Naughty By Nature]

(02-16-2017 07:40 PM)Armogan Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 03:24 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

That isn't true at all. I've met girls for tea/coffee/smoothie/FroYo at 8 PM before. Heck, when I was in Chicago, I met girls several times at the park during the night for our first meet-up.

Good point. It is quite asexual, lol. My go-to day 2 in NYC/Chicago was going to the park. Costs $0.00, it's beautiful, and you can escalate. Unfortunately, I've only had 1 girl down to go to the park for a day 2 since moving to LA. I figured the next cheapest thing was going to a coffee shop/FroYo joint. I'm really tight on cash.

What about sticking with a park date (if possible) or coffee shop date then serving her alcohol when I pull her back to my place? That way, it'll be far cheaper. I could buy a cheap bottle of vodka and cranberry juice. I would serve her the cocktail and just serve myself cranberry juice.

Believe you, me, it's true.

Over my last 7 weeks in college in Evanston, IL (right outside Chicago), I pulled 7 times. Every single date was a 1st date at the park. $0.00 spent.

Keep in mind, I only had sex with 1 of those girls, lol. I pulled 4 or 5 other girls back to my apartment over the rest of my last 2 years in college. I met all of those girls, too, at the park for my 1st date.

Also, I pulled the 1 girl who was down for the park in LA back to my place. We just made out. No lay. She said she'd come back again and she's texted me a few times since then, but alas, she's had cold feet.

Pulls are a gimme if you set up the date near your apartment, even if you spend nothing. I just say, "Let's go for a walk," and dunzo, I lead her through my door. The girl's in my joint. Doesn't mean a whole lot if you don't get the lay and that's been my main sticking point: end game.

I always wondered why my lay/pull rate was so low. It's clear that alcohol is a must. I always wondered, too, how fellow dudes who don't drink alcohol consistently convert their pulls to lays (assuming they're telling the truth). I guess you just have to be comfortable serving the girl alcohol while you drink seltzer.

I don't understand your obsession with the parks. It just boggles my mind. MacArthur Park, That's where Baby Boy got shot - everyone knows that. Forget parks.

Baby Boy Got Shot at MacArthur Park

You are trying to have girls meet you there? Maybe after you smash a few times you can go walk around echo park lake for a bit, but not a first date. My point is this is not working for you, you need to adapt and be flexible.

If its not bars/restaurants/clubs its apparently not MacArthur Park either. Try something new.

LOL at bringing up MacArthur Park, a park located in an impoverished ghetto (Westlake, #260 among 265 neighborhoods in LA County).

http://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/in...hood/list/

I'm inviting girls to a park in a wealthy, safe neighborhood. Just a tad different, haha.

Park dates are undoubtedly the best. A) They're free B) They tend to be peaceful and beautiful C) You can freely escalate.

[Naughty By Nature]

LOL, this takes the cake.

This guy on YouTube named Salomondrin just sued my friend (and several other people) for defamation b/c they called him out for renting a home that he falsely claimed he bought. Insane. The phoniness and "crabs in the bucket" mentality pervade this city. Keep in mind, LA is home to the other chode (MattHossZone) who pathetically sued H3H3 for no reason.

I guess that retard isn't familiar with the 1st amendment.

https://www.youtube.com/user/asalomondrin
https://www.instagram.com/salomondrin/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/salomondrin?lang=en

[Naughty By Nature]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to LA:



Keep in mind, I drove to her neck of the woods for our first date. Whatever happened to gender equality?

[StackGsMan]

(03-13-2017 12:07 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to LA:



Keep in mind, I drove to her neck of the woods for our first date. Whatever happened to gender equality?

I understand the whole being an alpha male and making women buy into your frame and all that, but this girl actually seems like she is throwing the pussy on your lap in a certain sense. She is telling you exactly what gets her going and what does not. You can't blame her for being turned off, it's out of her control. On top of that, you can't blame a girl for being turned off from the idea of driving all the way to the shitty valley just to go to a coffee bean. It sounds like a truly boring second date idea.

You seem like you keep trying to mold the world to fit what you want instead of adapting to people. I would love to be in contact with girls that communicate the way this girl did with you, because she is handing her desires to you on a silver platter.

But what do I know. You should keep inviting girls out to the valley to have coffee with you, or perhaps a nice tea if you both are feeling wild.

[Comte De St. Germain]

She's kind of right. Don't pick a place that is too far for a chick. It's bad for logistics period. She doesn't want to feel like a slut on the first date by being forced to stay over at your place or even more simply not drive forever in LA's hellhole traffic.


This is a complete newbies mistake. Don't pick a place that will scare the cat. You're lucky she let you know as most chicks would just not show up after saying yes when you do that.

Edit: Also what the fuck is gender equality? Even bitches on a subconscious level don't believe that shit.

[Naughty By Nature]

(03-13-2017 12:36 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

(03-13-2017 12:07 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to LA:



Keep in mind, I drove to her neck of the woods for our first date. Whatever happened to gender equality?

I understand the whole being an alpha male and making women buy into your frame and all that, but this girl actually seems like she is throwing the pussy on your lap in a certain sense. She is telling you exactly what gets her going and what does not. You can't blame her for being turned off, it's out of her control. On top of that, you can't blame a girl for being turned off from the idea of driving all the way to the shitty valley just to go to a coffee bean. It sounds like a truly boring second date idea.

You seem like you keep trying to mold the world to fit what you want instead of adapting to people. I would love to be in contact with girls that communicate the way this girl did with you, because she is handing her desires to you on a silver platter.

But what do I know. You should keep inviting girls out to the valley to have coffee with you, or perhaps a nice tea if you both are feeling wild.

What else would I do for a date, lol? I invited her to Fryman Canyon Park and she said no. Then I invited her over to cook a meal and she said no to that.

I've lived all over America and none of the women had this level of entitlement. In NYC and Chicago, they'd be grateful to chill at the park in your neck of the woods, with ZERO dollars spent.

Here, they accept nothing less than a dinner where they live (or best case scenario, they'll meet halfway). It's truly disgusting and it's something unique to LA. I've been out with something like 50 different girls between NYC (+ CT) and Chicago and didn't see this kind of garbage once.

This would've been our second date. I ALREADY went to her part of LA last time. She ended up flaking btw, lol.

LOL at "newbies mistake" and the notion of Studio City (Studio City really sucks btw! Just ask George Clooney!) "scaring the cat", as if it's Van Nuys or Compton. What an obnoxious and absurd thing to say.

Rule #1 of scheduling dates: you set them up right near where you live. That's exactly what I did. Apparently that makes RSDJulien a "newbie."



She lives 7 miles from me, hardly a far drive.

Pretty shocked that you're defending this girl. Have you gone full feminist?

[McCarthy]

I am a European living in SoCal.
What a bunch of flaky shallow transplants.
Can’t wait to move out.

[McCarthy]

(03-13-2017 01:45 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

What else would I do for a date, lol? I invited her to Fryman Canyon Park and she said no. Then I invited her over to cook a meal and she said no to that.

I've lived all over America and none of the women had this level of entitlement. In NYC and Chicago, they'd be grateful to chill at the park in your neck of the woods, with ZERO dollars spent.

Here, they accept nothing less than a dinner where they live (or best case scenario, they'll meet halfway). It's truly disgusting and it's something unique to LA. I've been out with something like 50 different girls between NYC (+ CT) and Chicago and didn't see this kind of garbage once.

This would've been our second date. I ALREADY went to her part of LA last time. She ended up flaking btw, lol.

LOL at "newbies mistake" and the notion of Studio City (Studio City really sucks btw! Just ask George Clooney!) "scaring the cat", as if it's Van Nuys or Compton. What an obnoxious and absurd thing to say.

Rule #1 of scheduling dates: you set them up right near where you live. That's exactly what I did. Apparently that makes RSDJulien a "newbie."



She lives 7 miles from me, hardly a far drive.

Pretty shocked that you're defending this girl. Have you gone full feminist?

I totally support you.

[Naughty By Nature]

(03-13-2017 02:10 AM)McCarthy Wrote:  

(03-13-2017 01:45 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

What else would I do for a date, lol? I invited her to Fryman Canyon Park and she said no. Then I invited her over to cook a meal and she said no to that.

I've lived all over America and none of the women had this level of entitlement. In NYC and Chicago, they'd be grateful to chill at the park in your neck of the woods, with ZERO dollars spent.

Here, they accept nothing less than a dinner where they live (or best case scenario, they'll meet halfway). It's truly disgusting and it's something unique to LA. I've been out with something like 50 different girls between NYC (+ CT) and Chicago and didn't see this kind of garbage once.

This would've been our second date. I ALREADY went to her part of LA last time. She ended up flaking btw, lol.

LOL at "newbies mistake" and the notion of Studio City (Studio City really sucks btw! Just ask George Clooney!) "scaring the cat", as if it's Van Nuys or Compton. What an obnoxious and absurd thing to say.

Rule #1 of scheduling dates: you set them up right near where you live. That's exactly what I did. Apparently that makes RSDJulien a "newbie."



She lives 7 miles from me, hardly a far drive.

Pretty shocked that you're defending this girl. Have you gone full feminist?

I totally support you.

Thanks bro.

Comte is approaching full cuck-mode.

Whatever happened to basic reciprocity? Whether it's a friend or a date, if you drive to that person's neighborhood, then he/she drives to yours the next go-around.

It's basic human courtesy.

The sad thing is this garbage happens over and over in LA. This city sucks, bro.

Thankfully, I've become good friends with my roommate. Otherwise, I'd be extremely irked right now.

[Comte De St. Germain]

RSD is full of losers so yes in my opinion.

And clearly 7 miles is too damned far for her hamster so accommodate you dip. Go to a bar near her place. Uber to the next bar closer to your place etc.

Learn to use your head.

Not to mention most importantly and the main reason I'm even giving you shit at this point is that you posted that text without any context so I have even less sympathy than the zero I had before. If you're gonna bitch post context.


Also lastly we're giving you advice on how to get laid with this one chick. Clearly you care enough to post a text from her so we're telling you what you did wrong irrespective of how much it is her fault(in the game the fault always lies with you if you're trying to fuck her and are continuing to try to fuck her) and you will likely will text her back instead of nexting and ignoring like the noob you are.

P.S. Nice logical fallacy by posting about one experience where you got flaked on and exposing your own shit game by not picking a better prospect.


Edit: apparently I'm the cuck for knowing that women aren't logical and will never reciprocate unless they're heavily interested which she clearly isn't in you.

[jselysianeagle]

@naughty by nature - agreed 100% that LA sucks, been there myself and you've seen my posts about that on here before.

But I can't agree that having a girl drive all the way to the Valley to meet at a Coffee Bean is a good idea. I mean, at least pick a classy bar or lounge to make it worth her while. I'd have to be convinced she's really into me (meaning we've already banged at least a few times) before trying to pull something like this.

Not saying you have to spend big bucks, but even one round of drinks some place nice beats Coffee Bean any day, I'd argue.

I don't know much about Comte, but I would have to agree with him on this one Also with StackGs. Most women wouldn't bother explaining themselves, the fact that she took the time suggests that this is still salvageable - she wants to give you a chance, but you're gonna have to earn it, or at least make her think you've earned it. Fuck all that jazz abt frame etc.

[Naughty By Nature]

(03-13-2017 06:20 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

@naughty by nature - agreed 100% that LA sucks, been there myself and you've seen my posts about that on here before.

But I can't agree that having a girl drive all the way to the Valley to meet at a Coffee Bean is a good idea. I mean, at least pick a classy bar or lounge to make it worth her while. I'd have to be convinced she's really into me (meaning we've already banged at least a few times) before trying to pull something like this.

Not saying you have to spend big bucks, but even one round of drinks some place nice beats Coffee Bean any day, I'd argue.

I don't know much about Comte, but I would have to agree with him on this one Also with StackGs. Most women wouldn't bother explaining themselves, the fact that she took the time suggests that this is still salvageable - she wants to give you a chance, but you're gonna have to earn it, or at least make her think you've earned it. Fuck all that jazz abt frame etc.

Yeah, that's annoying.

In other cities, they'd be freaking grateful that you'd take them out anywhere, even for a FroYo/coffee/tea/smoothie. Heck, I'd go to the park the vast majority of the time and spend nothing.

I don't drink alcohol so I still haven't tried for a date at a bar/lounge, but I may give that a go in the future and just drink water or cranberry juice.

[torridon747]

I hear L.A. is pretty much the worst but still you need to work on your frame. The fact that this girl sent that last text at all is so disrespectful

Quote:

his would've been our second date. I ALREADY went to her part of LA last time. She ended up flaking btw, lol.

Fuck no.

"Are you trying to turn me off"?. Fuuuuuuuuuckk no. She's the one playing you here, not the other way around. Think about that shit testy line and what options it leaves you with. Submit (awful), go nuclear (probably not gonna work), or finesse it (no idea, cuz little context).

Drop it fast and start again with another girl. From what I understand L.A. girls like to play men for money/favors a bit more than your average girl. I have a pretty strong suspicion that's what happening and you're falling into her frame.

You don't have to buy a girl shit. Don't blame all your problems on being in L.A., we all know it's tough but there's still players out there doing their thing. You can be one of them.

The vet in this thread is right, you need to work on your logistics and frame. Have some self respect; if a girl flakes on you after you're already out of the house that should be grounds for an instant next.

[Vaun]

(03-13-2017 01:45 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Rule #1 of scheduling dates: you set them up right near where you live. That's exactly what I did. Apparently that makes RSDJulien a "newbie."

Well, considering the RSD dudes probably mostly live in hotels, that makes sense. I always like to set things up in their neighborhoods, because I would rather a girl take me to her place, instead of mine. Even if it takes a few dates, I would rather everything happen at her place. My last LTR didnt come to my place for at least 4 months, after steady multiple night per week dating and a few weekend trips. To the point where she begged me to see my place .

In LA I would try to date in my part of town only, unless it looked like a truly exceptional chic. There is a latina milf in the South Bay I would take an Uber to see from Santa Monica any day of the week.

[booshala]

OP: No disagreement on LA being a rough place for girls, but it sounds like this is exacerbated for you because you're stubborn and not creative. Some rookie ass moves with Coffee Bean dates and what is this park nonsense? Only guy I know who can pull that off is delicioustacos and even he complains about never converting from those dates.

If you don't drink, just order soda water with lime as the alcohol at the venue is there to loosen her up. If you want to save bread on dates, try "First Sundays" at many local museums, KCRW Summer Nights in Chinatown, events at the Hammer Museum, yelp community events, shows at the Getty and Skirball: all free... Dafuq outta here with parks...

[DarkTriad]

(02-26-2017 05:27 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

LOL, this takes the cake.

This guy on YouTube named Salomondrin just sued my friend (and several other people) for defamation b/c they called him out for renting a home that he falsely claimed he bought. Insane. The phoniness and "crabs in the bucket" mentality pervade this city. Keep in mind, LA is home to the other chode (MattHossZone) who pathetically sued H3H3 for no reason.

I guess that retard isn't familiar with the 1st amendment.

https://www.youtube.com/user/asalomondrin
https://www.instagram.com/salomondrin/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/salomondrin?lang=en

Not to bust your balls, but in your story, your friend is the "crab in a bucket" guy. Some guy is hustling, and your friend is snitching and then mad at getting called out for it. And Salo likely understands the 1st Amendment fine, he's just in it to cause your friend the same amount of misery he started.

[Armogan]

OP I've said this time and time again, stop with the fkn parks and coffee dates at 8pm at a mall. What are you doing? It seems everyday you post how a girl flaked from going to one of these 'venues' and you rant how LA is tough.

Adjust, make changes.

Here's a little tough love. Maybe your whole frame, look, $$ situation, attitude is all off. The only entitlement I see is your expectation that a girl should meet a random guy at some park.

Work on you. Hit more numbers, eject faster. Grow up. You're acting like a 12 year old who's not getting cake at his sisters 5 year old birthday. Stop complaining, start adjusting.

Champions adjust.