[Chauncey]

(10-11-2016 11:29 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 08:57 PM)Chauncey Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 08:40 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Am I supposed to know who gable tostee is?

Is he famous, or just an Australian murderer with a real shitty name?

According to google that's all there is about him.

Aloha!

do u even lift bro?

Don't answer questions with questions.

Aloha!

That was supposed to be a Misc/BB reference not a shot at you. Mr Tostee was posting updates over there as all this shit was going down until he wised up and shut his mouth.

Cheers!

[Peregrine]

Can't see how this is a murder charge.

At most I can see charges, such as false imprisonment, based on locking a drunk chick on a balcony and then pissing off for pizza. No walk in the park, but it beats murder.

[Kona]

(10-12-2016 12:18 AM)Chauncey Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 11:29 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 08:57 PM)Chauncey Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 08:40 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Am I supposed to know who gable tostee is?

Is he famous, or just an Australian murderer with a real shitty name?

According to google that's all there is about him.

Aloha!

do u even lift bro?

Don't answer questions with questions.

Aloha!

That was supposed to be a Misc/BB reference not a shot at you. Mr Tostee was posting updates over there as all this shit was going down until he wised up and shut his mouth.

Cheers!

Well I googled what misc/bb is. I was about to ask here, but my feelings have been hurt enough.

Aloha!

[Kona]

I don't understand why Tostee was audio recording this stuff?

This is also the reason I'm so happy I never got into any bondage related shit. I've had chicks want it, but I see it as a slippery slope to the inside of a jail cell.

Aloha!

[GlobalMan]

If any part of this incident will lead to him getting convicted of something it will likely be this:





OP alluded to some aspie-ness or something, and it seems most apparent in this comment of his. Stupid thing to say, and strange. It's like something you would say while play acting with your girl.

If attacked, restrain her, defend yourself as needed etc- but if the girl says I want to leave and you say "no you aren't going anywhere" you're now on some shaky ground.

While it's obvious he doesn't deserve to be convicted of murder for her attempting to climb off the balcony and falling, his comment above combined with putting her on the balcony needlessly opened himself up facing possible legal consequences.

Just an unfortunate combo of a crazy girl and apparently socially retarded dude not knowing how to deal with it, and some bad decisions.

[RatInTheWoods]

I genuinely believe she killed herself by either trying to get to another balcony (while very drunk) or was drama whoring by haning off the railing (while drunk)

The media coverage is very biased against the dude of course, poor innocent petal was MURDERED say the media.

He wasn't very smart in his actions or words on the recording but he was also very drunk.

Its clear from the recording that she was being violent and he was purely defensive. This may save him.

He is guilty of handling the situation poorly. Like others have said, just throw her out the front door, not lock her on the balcony!!!!

[LeoneVolpe]

A good reminder to never stick your dick in crazy...especially nowadays.

Eventually, I think we're all going to want to invest in some home security cameras. Courts are just too biased in women's favor to rely on the ol' "he said, she said". Women are innocent until proven guilty (then given lenient sentences), men are guilty until proven innocent (then still have permanent black marks on their reputation).

[nomadbrah]

Reading the transcript from Balcony Brah's phone recording is cringe inducing. They both sound absolutely retarded and crazy. Tostee showed very, very bad judgement in not kicking out this girl way before it escalated. Such quotes as GlobalMan has above. His reactions would certainly not match mine. The first time she gets violent, certainly the second time, she would be outside my door. Tostee instead begins arguing, being sort of threathening, trying to win the argument, when he should just get rid of her.

The girl is batshit crazy if you read the recordings, so that should factor in to it for the jury. Overall just very poor judgement by all involved, but let's not act like Mr. Tostee doesn't seem shady.

[AboveAverageJoe]

(10-11-2016 06:43 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I really genuinely feel for this guy. You have some loony chick over for some fun under the covers, she gets wasted , she trashes your place and attacks you, you tell her to leave- she responds with more aggression. You put her crazy ass on the balcony and tell her "I will let you go but stop attacking me first". Dumb drunk bitch tries to climb down, falls and dies-and everyone acts like it is your fault. How does the guy win in this situation?

Screening, screening, and restraint.
Thus players from centuries past have determined that: "all pussy aint good pussy".
Sometimes you have to listen to the big head and overule the voice of your smaller head.
As LDN has, as usually, brought things into proper perspective, a RNC could have quickly resolved the situation. Anyone who has been subjected to a blood choke (as opposed to a breath choke) knows that one wakes up with little recollection of what has recently taken place.
Dump crazy bitch on the elevator, push down, then after smashing her I phone to bits, flush it down the toilet and proceed as the previous events never happened. Crazy bitch ends up on the ground floor with no recollection or proof of the entire evening.

Might I ad that taking the easy way out (online dating) this Toasty Fable going for easy and crazy internet pussy, made his own bed. And now the justice system intends to make him lay in it. A cot not a bed, mind you.

[Rob Banks]

(10-12-2016 12:26 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  

Can't see how this is a murder charge.

At most I can see charges, such as false imprisonment, based on locking a drunk chick on a balcony and then pissing off for pizza. No walk in the park, but it beats murder.

If he really locked her on the balcony and then went for pizza, in addition to telling her "no because you've been a bad girl" when she asked to go home, then I would be surprised if the dude didn't get any criminal charges. Murder, I don't think so. That's obviously ridiculous. But you can't just lock someone on a balcony and then leave your apartment. If someone did that to me, and I didn't know if they were coming back, and it was winter (June is winter in Australia), I might try to jump to the next balcony too.

On a related note, I've heard proposals here in the US for laws to charge drug dealers with murder if one of their customers overdoses on their product and dies.

I've also heard of people facing criminal charges for supposedly driving someone to suicide. There was a case back in 2010 where a gay guy attending Rutgers university killed himself after being secretly recorded by his roommate while having gay sex. The roommate then faced criminal charges (not murder). He was convicted and got a month in jail and probation, in addition to forever losing his right to bear arms.

[Conscious Pirate]

(10-11-2016 11:55 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  

He shouldn't have locked an intoxicated woman out on the balcony.

Why? Cause she couldn't consent while intoxicated?

Come the fuck on here, Brick. Given the circumstances, I would have done exactly the same thing in the same situation. It would be the most logical thing to think at the time. Put her in the naughty corner & let her calm down. (then give her a 'job' that requires her leaving the area & "build a wall" so-to-speak). A locked balcony door sounds pretty convenient to me. Much more fresh air than a locked bathroom.

What kind of person necks themselves in the naughty corner? And I'm not asking.

[JWLZG]

(10-11-2016 11:57 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

- He beds many women and doesn't *seem* to have found a LTR or want one - must be a creep and sexual predator because super-awesome women are everywhere! Girl power!

Strange how the stigma has been flipped.

Back then, it used to be:
If he sleeps around, he's a stud. If she sleeps around, she's a slut.

(Oh wait, I still hear that being used — to shut down creepy betas. )

Nowadays, it's:

If he sleeps around, he's a creepy sexual predator who won't chain himself to a 1̶5̶0̶k̶g̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶p̶i̶g̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶ ̶w̶i̶f̶e̶ loving wife! If she sleeps around, she's a strong, independent, progressive you gooo girrl! sticking it up to the patriarchy.

[JWLZG]

(10-11-2016 11:41 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

JWLZG:

Re your first post: the media is incontrovertibly against him. Given their bias and the general public's, I'm perfectly fine with us critiquing both the charges and her moronic behavior. I take no pleasure and feel no schadenfreude about her death, but a spade is a spade. This is neither murder nor manslaughter.

I had hoped the charges would be dropped entirely. It's why I sat on this for so long. Part of me felt SOME prosecutor would see the writing on the wall and risk the criticism of canning the whole prosecution.

I trust the better judgement of most of our membership, yourself included, not to pass such judgement lightly.

Having said that, even in the most red pill societies, the defendant, not just owning the apartment from where the death occurred but having been present during the event, would have been "assisting the police with inquiries", with the possibility of lesser charges than murder levelled against him.

Even were he to be acquitted of any charges, the deceased family still have pretty strong grounds for a civil suit of negligence against him.

Again, this is speaking from pure objectivity.

(10-11-2016 11:41 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

Re your second post: I never said he was autistic. I was saying the way he came off to some people was said to be autistic-like.

I know three guys he went to school with. They found him awkward at school and say it continued after school, on the occasions where they crossed paths with him. He disappeared from many people's radar for quite a while is the general story.

That said, they were pretty surprised at how he turned out. Despite the awkwardness, he came across as more charismatic and savvy than he had been at school. He knew a lot of people they say, but tended to spread that time out.

Part of it is growing into adulthood, but there's no doubt he worked on himself very well. I think the seriousness with which he took his self-development has led to the loner perception.

I personally can relate to where you're coming from. If he's anything like myself, he worked damn hard to make a 180° turn on his character. It'd be interesting to observe his journey of self-improvement.

I forgot to add on my earlier comments — he's not just good looking, he was the rugged, juiced up and jacked looks that most Australian girls would go wet for. I'm not surprised he could end with a Tinder match list a mile long. The brother of a previous fling of mine actually shares a resemblance with him. The jacked frame, slight tan, and those dark, Anglo-Norman features. He didn't even need his high SMV professions (builder and personal trainer, studying construction management) to get laid.

Even if his looks are enough to get him laid though, I can see how he took self-improvement so seriously. It was evident in my teens that if I wasn't considered good-looking already, that my looks would mature into something much more eye-catching later on. That it wasn't enough to win friends or get laid was pretty demoralising, as I reckon it would've been for him.

I'm not sure if the 'socially awkward' tag still applies, though. I can't help but think there's some sort of ingrained prejudice against the mentally infirm on RVF — with terms like "sperg" and "assburgers retard" bandied around as insults —

(10-12-2016 01:21 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Just an unfortunate combo of a crazy girl and apparently socially retarded dude not knowing how to deal with it, and some bad decisions.

just how many "socially retarded dudes" are able to achieve a notch count of 150 + in 2 years? Unless club game is that idiot-proof.

[Phoenix]

Yeah, he's guilty; and Schapelle Corby wasn't. We get it.

Dumb savages obviously overdue for their yearly sacrifice.
Need sacrifice to release your anger? -> grab a man
Need pity case to emote about to give your life some meaning? -> grab a woman

[The Beast1]

I'm with Kona on this one. Who the hell is this guy?

Is he a famous lifter? Did he play football? Is he some no name guy who got unlucky?

I once had an ex show up drunk to my apartment and i foolishly drove her home out of the kindness of my heart. She ended up trying to cut herself in some pathetic display of attention after i refused to sleep with her. Remembering this forum and fearing a false rape charge, I called the cops, explained the situation, and they had her committed.

Gents, if you ever have any sort of girl attempt to pull shit like this kick her out of the front door and call the cops and say she threatened to file a false rape report.

Better yet call the police and have them remove her. Tell them the truth: chick got drunk, she started vandelizing my place. Act sober and middle of the road.

Or do the best thing possible: don't hook up with drunk dumpster sluts off of tinder. An ounce of prevention.

[Foolsgo1d]

Its Balcony Bra, aka a Miscer from couple years back who was the epitome of Asperger chad with social retardation. Utilised his looks and possible dark triad ability to get sluts back to his. Was known to women where he lived for following girls and hitting on oblivious drunks.

Worked like a charm until he came across the female version of himself and he didn't know how to react like a normal person. Locked her out on his balcony, hence Balcony bra, and she then tries to climb down to the ground or another apartment balcony whilst drunk.

As we know, that didn't work out so well and she went down hard but not before screaming.

Balcony bra wasn't too worried and ordered pizza after calling his dad, which he stated as a live update on a Misc thread.

Miscers with brains chimed in and told him to shut the fuck up as it was really serious. Police arrest him. Law wants to make an example out of him because as we all know, trial by media created a frenzy about it.

His situation was not helped by being a total idiot. hence; "a typical Miscer".

[Peregrine]

(10-12-2016 05:41 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 11:55 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  

He shouldn't have locked an intoxicated woman out on the balcony.

Why? Cause she couldn't consent while intoxicated?

Come the fuck on here, Brick. Given the circumstances, I would have done exactly the same thing in the same situation. It would be the most logical thing to think at the time. Put her in the naughty corner & let her calm down. (then give her a 'job' that requires her leaving the area & "build a wall" so-to-speak). A locked balcony door sounds pretty convenient to me. Much more fresh air than a locked bathroom.

What kind of person necks themselves in the naughty corner? And I'm not asking.

That's false imprisonment.

[Phoenix]

(10-12-2016 08:41 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  

That's false imprisonment.

It's definitely a false imprisonment given that he apparently went to get a pizza instead of calling the police. But it's a pretty mild one given the circumstances. It's nothing to do with him that the retard decided to jump off.

Apparently grown women should be treated like juveniles when it suits them, and adults when it doesn't.

[Atlanta Man]

The reason I sympathize with this guy is because the general public will not give him a fair shake. Most men have not been with 100 plus women, I have, so I know how they are. They had consensual all night long within hours of meeting each other(this is normal behavior). After an hours long fuck session, they started drinking and shit was cool(this is normal behavior). Silly bitch gets to drunk and starts hitting him, bragging about knowing Muay Thai, and getting belligerently aggressive (I am 6'4 260 lbs, drunk girls in clubs often grab and punch me in the arm, shit is annoying and sometimes hurts) and then throws decorative rocks at him while he is shirtless. He tells her to get out, she gathers her shit, cannot find her phone- and accuses him of stealing it .

Then she is back in violent mode and hits him with a fucking telescope and begins wreaking his shit-that is why on the tape you hear him say "I am putting you out just like this, you cannot collect your things ,you are leaving just like this" and she is heard on the tape growling like a fucking caged beast. He lets her up and she gets violent again, drunk himself he puts the bitch on the balcony hoping she will chill out. On the tape we all hear her wailing "no,no,no, i just want to go home" but she is a drunk bitch, and her emotional state is not to be judged from a sober perspective- she likely was going from tears, and wailing to rage and assault at a turn of a hat. She was dumb enough to try to lower herself to another balcony from the 15th floor, how reasonable do you think her state of mind was?

For the record GT had had chicks get weird on him before, just not violent. He posted on Misc that when they got weird, he politely let them gather their things and go. He never got violent, he never locked them on balconies, he never tried to hurt them- he let them walk right out the door. The only thing that was different this time is the bitch would not leave, note-despite him giving her several opportunities, the bitch would not leave! Does anyone on this forum think he wanted that bitch in his house or on his balcony? He wanted that violent, drunk , belligerent bitch out of his house and out of his life and she would not leave! This player has my sympathy, I have had to deal with bitches who would not leave and it is difficult to come out of that situation without consequences-especially when you have both been drinking and she is unreasonable and violent. Have some empathy, because but for the grace of god....you know the rest.

[MiscBrah]

Aye didn't expect to see BalconyBrah on RVF

Free BalconyBrah!

[Parzival]

When you want to bury a body dig a hole and put it vertical in. Don't lay the body in the horizontal. Because the surface is more easy to spot (hole, smell etc). You put also the head first that the organs move down. Less smell for dogs, hole is more small. Also its more easy for the vermin to eat the body. Better then deal with a crazy Anglo girl and face trial for murder. Just let her vanish.

[frenchcorporation]

free balconybrah.

(10-12-2016 12:02 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

When you want to bury a body dig a hole and put it vertical in. Don't lay the body in the horizontal. Because the surface is more easy to spot (hole, smell etc). You put also the head first that the organs move down. Less smell for dogs, hole is more small. Also its more easy for the vermin to eat the body. Better then deal with a crazy Anglo girl and face trial for murder. Just let her vanish.

[The Beast1]

(10-12-2016 12:02 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

When you want to bury a body dig a hole and put it vertical in. Don't lay the body in the horizontal. Because the surface is more easy to spot (hole, smell etc). You put also the head first that the organs move down. Less smell for dogs, hole is more small. Also its more easy for the vermin to eat the body. Better then deal with a crazy Anglo girl and face trial for murder. Just let her vanish.

[eradicator]

(10-12-2016 12:02 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

When you want to bury a body dig a hole and put it vertical in. Don't lay the body in the horizontal. Because the surface is more easy to spot (hole, smell etc). You put also the head first that the organs move down. Less smell for dogs, hole is more small. Also its more easy for the vermin to eat the body. Better then deal with a crazy Anglo girl and face trial for murder. Just let her vanish.

Did you see that on Breaking Bad or do you know this from experience?

[Kona]

Besides playing a tape of himself threatening to throw the girl off the balcony, Tostee had another great idea.

He decided to change his name to Eric Thomas. That'll fool them.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensla...35xrf.html

Fuck Toastee, I say fry his ass.

Aloha!