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The Kiev chronicles

The Kiev chronicles

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The Kiev chronicles

Quote: (10-08-2016 12:21 PM)Henny Wrote:  

Speaking Russian will help unless you are Turkish, most of the Turkish students speak fluent Russian, not that it does them any good. When was last time you saw a Turk with a top class piece of ass? Never, except when he's paying a lot.

Come to think of it, when is the last time you saw any foreigner with anything above an 8 who wasn't paying big money for it? Never

So if we can bang 7's and some 8's with English, what's the point of learning Russian?

I am a foreigner in Ukraine. I saw a reflection of myself in the mirror with an 8 I am pretty sure. There was even a mirror selfie made.

Quite of few of those in my photo collection. You made me brag dude.
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Quote: (10-08-2016 01:43 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (10-08-2016 12:21 PM)Henny Wrote:  

Speaking Russian will help unless you are Turkish, most of the Turkish students speak fluent Russian, not that it does them any good. When was last time you saw a Turk with a top class piece of ass? Never, except when he's paying a lot.

Come to think of it, when is the last time you saw any foreigner with anything above an 8 who wasn't paying big money for it? Never

So if we can bang 7's and some 8's with English, what's the point of learning Russian?

I am a foreigner in Ukraine. I saw a reflection of myself in the mirror with an 8 I am pretty sure. There was even a mirror selfie made.

Quite of few of those in my photo collection. You made me brag dude.

Could well be, the odd exception of course. Myself included.

Though I'm getting on in age a bit, I generally concentrate on the young ones who are half my age, but in the 7 range, but they are young , fresh, and not too bitchy.

Older ones are more expensive, and the slight upgrade in terms of looks not worth it for me, for the long run at least.
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Relevant to the last posts here about the need for Russian language: thread-58698.html

I quote global-entry: "Those of you arguing that knowing the language in the country in which you live (at least speaking and understanding it) has no value - are you kidding me? In what world is this possible. Would you move back to the USA/England/Australia/France/Italy/Germany/wherever you came from and not want to be able to speak your local language? If not, then shut the fuck up about learning Chinese in China, Thai in Thailand, Japanese in Japan, arabic in the middle east, having no value. How much value, well, thats in part up to you and how you use it in your career, social circumstances, etc. I guess you have the option to crawl back into your grandmother's basement instead and read some more manga online, but for those of us actually living in the world and interacting and communicating....please stop it with that ridiculousness."

A few things: Of course, some foreign passing-through players can get legitimate HB 8s in Kiev (notice that no one is now claiming 9 anymore...), they are what I call the top-1% players. Once again, if I were them, I would rather game in Paris or NY, or Vegas or Miami, but hey, to each his own...

Vronski, I saw his Ukrainian girlfriend, and she's a solid HB 8 (some would rate her a 9), so, if you don't yourself pull his quality, no point in dissing him.

Anyway, all red-pill travelers know that the normal, usual and slightly painful sight in foreign countries is, a quite handsome young foreigner with his local 6 tagging along. Yes, some score 8s, it totally happens, but, it is a rare sight (requiring high level of game). I can walk one day in BKK and not see one farang with an 8, for example (ok, 8s travel by cars usually, I know, but still). Just talking about general trends here.
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Nobody said it had no value, just that it's not crucial, although if you speak nothing then you need to be handsome.

Who said anything about living in the country??, most of us are just visitors
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Quote: (10-09-2016 04:05 AM)Henny Wrote:  

Nobody said it had no value, just that it's not crucial, although if you speak nothing then you need to be handsome.

Who said anything about living in the country??, most of us are just visitors

And as a visitor with little to no Russian and no social circle and no car, you regularly bang HB 8 local chicks? [Image: dodgy.gif] Sure... I just don't see the likes of you when I am in Ukraine, you must be hidden from sight... Cause foreigners I see in Ukraine sure have no HB8 at their sides, lol, far from it... (real HB8s, stunners)

But if you do consistently bang Ukrainian HB8s, respect to you - and my point is, your game and looks are in this case so great that you would, in your own country, get perfect-tens.

Reason I am telling this is, for normal-to-good players: do come to Ukraine and enjoy a few 6,5s (putting in good work).
For great players: save on airplane tickets, stay in NY, Paris, Milano, Vegas, Montreal, and bang the 9s near your place.
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Most guys are banging in the 6-7 range with the occasional 8 or 9. As a 34 year old myself, banging nice white girls that are 18-25 is very tough in the west. That's why guys come to Ukraine.

Reason I'm telling you this is for normal to good players; do come to Ukraine and enjoy cute girls in 6-7 range with the occasional 8+ that you would never get in the west.

For great players: you will still get hotter than you would in the west.
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Keep in mind ratings will vary a lot between one person and the other. And yourself as well.

I routinely have to retrospectively take away a point at least when i look back at some girls. Once the intial excitemrnt dirs off shes often not as pretty as one though.

Theres 3 general categories for me:

1- the girl you can go to a club/date with and not look at other girls and wonder why youre stuck with this one.
Shes hot and shes hot enough for you to be happy with her.

2- the girl youd bang but wouldnt be content about when out with her.

3- useless for anything.

category 1 is whats nice for me in ukraine. And it would greatly expand if i knew russian. Which is why I've started to work on it.

Whether shes my or anothers 7, 8, 9, etc... wont matter much to me. Thats mostly when we sit at a computer and zoom and analyze pics. Plus opinions and tastes vary so much. Have a fee girls who i think are stunners and my friends nitpick the shit out of them and have ignored others who some think are amazing.
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Unless you run a local beauty contest... Or have some other strategic advantage... Getting true stunners anywhere can be a challenge. And usually it has almost nothing to do with looks or game.

If you can't statistically find stunners consistently in great numbers in a city then chances are you are getting the same or similar results as any other guy with a decent amount of game.

When you see a stunner with a guy (who's not a provider) he's usually just another cool guy who happened to be in the right place at the right time.
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Yeah I've realized that the hb scale various so much between me and other guys that I really don't put much stock in it when reading these threads. I work more along a scale similar to what Beirut laid out.
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Quote: (10-09-2016 05:24 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

Quote: (10-09-2016 04:05 AM)Henny Wrote:  

Nobody said it had no value, just that it's not crucial, although if you speak nothing then you need to be handsome.

Who said anything about living in the country??, most of us are just visitors

And as a visitor with little to no Russian and no social circle and no car, you regularly bang HB 8 local chicks? [Image: dodgy.gif] Sure... I just don't see the likes of you when I am in Ukraine, you must be hidden from sight... Cause foreigners I see in Ukraine sure have no HB8 at their sides, lol, far from it... (real HB8s, stunners)

But if you do consistently bang Ukrainian HB8s, respect to you - and my point is, your game and looks are in this case so great that you would, in your own country, get perfect-tens.

Reason I am telling this is, for normal-to-good players: do come to Ukraine and enjoy a few 6,5s (putting in good work).
For great players: save on airplane tickets, stay in NY, Paris, Milano, Vegas, Montreal, and bang the 9s near your place.

I never said I bang steady 8's, although I never go below 7, and never above 9(if such a girls exists). In my own country I am ageing out i'm afraid, in Ukraine i'm in my prime

Well, yes. That's why many decent looking young guys don't come to Ukraine, they have enough East European girls in their cities. Ukraine always been a place best suited to the older guy. In NY, London, Paris a 40 something or 50 something needs to have a sizable bank balance and income to secure hotties.

Ukraine all about money as we know, the girls are more and more expensive as they get older. Hence why many guys prefer the young ones, buy them a couple of cocktails and they will think you're the best guy in the world
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Seems I've picked an exciting time to be traveling through EE and especially Ukraine. All the saber rattling between Russia and the US has me a little concerned, not gonna lie. There is talk about a deeper push by Russian into Ukraine. Even still, I plan on heading to Lviv this weekend and then Kiev shortly after that. Hoping I don't need to make a quick exit.
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Quote: (10-12-2016 04:20 PM)invictusiii Wrote:  

Seems I've picked an exciting time to be traveling through EE and especially Ukraine. All the saber rattling between Russia and the US has me a little concerned, not gonna lie. There is talk about a deeper push by Russian into Ukraine. Even still, I plan on heading to Lviv this weekend and then Kiev shortly after that. Hoping I don't need to make a quick exit.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060921/

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/assessing-the-...-of-power/

http://www.unz.com/author/the-saker/

There's always politics and conflict. The media presents an overly false image; Russian isn't going to invade the Ukraine as the cost would overwhelmingly exceed the benefit.
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That makes sense as occupying Ukraine would definitely be reminiscent of the failed Russian occupation of Afghanistan and other similar modern occupations. Media is pretty adept at hyping this shit up though.
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