[BrewDog]

(07-31-2016 07:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 06:12 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've never been to Oz, but I've hung out with Ozzie chicks in other countries. I find them to be very stuck up - pretentious cunts.

The competition sounds fierce down there, many Oz dudes have come on here and bashed the place hard.

Well here's a hint that we're right... Every time I travel, I see shit tons of Aussie guys. For one, their beers are like 15 bucks in Oz, but also, their cunts are huge cunts. So if I were an Aussie, I would go somewhere else, too, to party. Shit beer prices and shit women.

[malakaix]

(07-31-2016 07:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

The competition sounds fierce down there, many Oz dudes have come on here and bashed the place hard.

Australia is a paradise for women because of the extreme competition between men and none of them realize it until they travel overseas and become completely invisible in the presence of pleasant, attractive women.

[NerdyNomad]

YMD, I think Almaty may be worth a look. The women seemed a good amount nicer and cultured than Kiev. Obv. much less hotties than Kiev but on the other hand, there are no sex tourists and very little competition in Almaty.

Many of the girls have a half Asian look, that probably is also a positive for you. And knowing some Russian will help a lot with day to day life.

[YMD]

Thank you all for your advice.

Apparently this thread has turned into a place to complain about Aussie girls.
Let me talk about my game experience and why I'm obbessed with Slav women.

In the place I live, once I made a fun date with a slavic girl.
On a book shop, I approached a white girl during the evening, and we had a long conversation there. It turned out she was not Australian. Then, we went to a place where we can see a night view of the city center. She asked me to take selfies of us there, went to a bar and continued a long conversation.
Unfortunately, I couldn't proceed any more. She said she had to get up early on the next day and I was clueless as to what to do.
She was super friendly, fun to talk to and of course beautiful. This incident made me obsessed with slavic women so much.
Now I feel that I should approach even somewhat ugly girls just to get experiences. All those advice made me feel this way.

[YMD]

I'll go to CE/EE anyway in the next year, which would be a travelling of a month or two. Then, I'll decide what to do next. (if I could get an interesting job chance there with my programming skill, I'd consider staying there for a long term.)

As I mentioned at the beginning, I don't want to work in Japan anymore. To me, this is a huge concern as well as women. So much so that I was afraid of loosing this opportunity to stay in Australia for a long time, where I suck at women but working environment is far greater.

But recently something slowly dawned on me... I don't possess this amazing Australian working visa, this Australian working visa possess me.

After reading all those posting, now I feel more positive and am willing to take risks. Even if I cannot go back to Australia, I'll manage to find another place to live in (I'm thinking about doing PhD in computer science. If I can get it, I might get another chance.) or find another way of life.

[YMD]

(07-31-2016 01:48 PM)Vronski Wrote:  

Out of curiosity, don't you have a rather high % of female migrants from EE and Russia in Australia ?

I understand that they are in demand .... but I know a Russian girl from Moscow (28 yo, 8+, witty, educated, ect) who moved to Melbourne two years ago, and who has obvious difficulties to find a guy who really meets her match.

I also have a French friend who moved to Australia and got married to a Serbian girl -also an 8+. She was there since three years and never found a guy she really meshed well with (there is BTW from what I understood a rather strong Serbian community in Sydney).

They are quite rare.
Most foreigners living in my town is Chinese, Indian, Korean, Taiwanese and Colombian.
When it comes to European, I see German and French every now and then.
However, I've seen people from CE/EE for about 5 or 6 times in this 3 years.

Once I went to a Russian church from my curiosity, but I saw only elderly people.

[YMD]

Roosh once said that guaranteeing against failure is almost impossible, when it comes to travelling and living abroad (I know that since I'm in a forein country now!) Also, he said that I go to a country where I like the women and do my best no matter what.
Maybe I could share my travel and game experience from an Asian man's perspective after that.

[Malo]

Dear OP,

Sorry for being blunt about this but Australian girls (especially in Sydney) have a huge aversion to non-white foreigners.

You're fighting a serious beast here. Not a good idea.

The huge immigrant Asian population makes it even worse, they can't tell that you're a 'higher status' Japanese even if they wanted to.

You made a very bad choice as far as banging chicks go.

Slavic girls (Eastern Europe, Central Europe) are not easy but being Asian is considered something positively exotic there often times. Especially in Poland. That should make things much easier for you.

Not to mention the quality of girls there is several levels higher, both in beauty and personality.

As far as poorer Asian countries, you must already know that you have an almost automatic good standing there as a Japanese.

Definitely relocate, this is a no-brainer.

Yes you need game everywhere, but you've chosen a very hostile environment.

Sorry if this sounds harsh or non-PC, but playing against all odds when you don't have to (since relocation is a possibility) or ignoring social realities will very most likely get you absolutely nowhere.

That's not how you win this game.

[YMD]

(08-02-2016 04:59 PM)Malo Wrote:  

Sorry for being blunt about this but Australian girls (especially in Sydney) have a huge aversion to non-white foreigners.

The huge immigrant Asian population makes it even worse, they can't tell that you're a 'higher status' Japanese even if they wanted to.

You made a very bad choice as far as banging chicks go.

A very bad choice lol

Thanks for your reply. Do you live in Australia?
This is not a good place for getting laid (at least for me), but it is good for getting employed.

I was too afraid of going to back to Japan where working condition is harsh, and I wanted to migrate to Australia (as most other Asian migrants do) when I was still in Japan. Now I'm feel like having more adventure, and willing to take risks of loosing this chance.

I'll never know how easy/hard those women are until I have firsthand experiences of approaching them.
If things don't go the way I want, at least I can explore new countries, which I have wanted to do for a long time anyway.

[HOD]

(08-03-2016 04:57 AM)YMD Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 04:59 PM)Malo Wrote:  

Sorry for being blunt about this but Australian girls (especially in Sydney) have a huge aversion to non-white foreigners.

The huge immigrant Asian population makes it even worse, they can't tell that you're a 'higher status' Japanese even if they wanted to.

You made a very bad choice as far as banging chicks go.

A very bad choice lol

Thanks for your reply. Do you live in Australia?
This is not a good place for getting laid (at least for me), but it is good for getting employed.

I was too afraid of going to back to Japan where working condition is harsh, and I wanted to migrate to Australia (as most other Asian migrants do) when I was still in Japan. Now I'm feel like having more adventure, and willing to take risks of loosing this chance.

I'll never know how easy/hard those women are until I have firsthand experiences of approaching them.
If things don't go the way I want, at least I can explore new countries, which I have wanted to do for a long time anyway.

I reckon you will have two passports now? An Australian and Japanese one, that's gotta be pretty sweet.

On shitty thing about being an American, we can only have one passport, unless I'm wrong.

[Il Bersagliere]

(08-03-2016 07:10 AM)HOD Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 04:57 AM)YMD Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 04:59 PM)Malo Wrote:  

Sorry for being blunt about this but Australian girls (especially in Sydney) have a huge aversion to non-white foreigners.

The huge immigrant Asian population makes it even worse, they can't tell that you're a 'higher status' Japanese even if they wanted to.

You made a very bad choice as far as banging chicks go.

A very bad choice lol

Thanks for your reply. Do you live in Australia?
This is not a good place for getting laid (at least for me), but it is good for getting employed.

I was too afraid of going to back to Japan where working condition is harsh, and I wanted to migrate to Australia (as most other Asian migrants do) when I was still in Japan. Now I'm feel like having more adventure, and willing to take risks of loosing this chance.

I'll never know how easy/hard those women are until I have firsthand experiences of approaching them.
If things don't go the way I want, at least I can explore new countries, which I have wanted to do for a long time anyway.

I reckon you will have two passports now? An Australian and Japanese one, that's gotta be pretty sweet.

On shitty thing about being an American, we can only have one passport, unless I'm wrong.

The US allows dual-citizenship. I have 2 passports.

Quote:

Although the U.S. government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy, it recognizes the existence of dual citizenship and completely tolerates the maintenance of multiple citizenship by U.S. citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...nality_law

[YMD]

(08-03-2016 07:10 AM)HOD Wrote:  

I reckon you will have two passports now? An Australian and Japanese one, that's gotta be pretty sweet.

On shitty thing about being an American, we can only have one passport, unless I'm wrong.

Well, unfortunately Japan doesn't permit dual citizenship.
If I get another passport, I have to abandon the Japanese one.

[Russianbrother]

(08-03-2016 04:57 AM)YMD Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 04:59 PM)Malo Wrote:  

Sorry for being blunt about this but Australian girls (especially in Sydney) have a huge aversion to non-white foreigners.

The huge immigrant Asian population makes it even worse, they can't tell that you're a 'higher status' Japanese even if they wanted to.

You made a very bad choice as far as banging chicks go.

A very bad choice lol

Thanks for your reply. Do you live in Australia?
This is not a good place for getting laid (at least for me), but it is good for getting employed.

I was too afraid of going to back to Japan where working condition is harsh, and I wanted to migrate to Australia (as most other Asian migrants do) when I was still in Japan. Now I'm feel like having more adventure, and willing to take risks of loosing this chance.

I'll never know how easy/hard those women are until I have firsthand experiences of approaching them.
If things don't go the way I want, at least I can explore new countries, which I have wanted to do for a long time anyway.

Well I am russian/ukranian, so I can give you some tipps about Russia,Ukraine and Belarus.

Russia.

1)
It is not poor, but not rich I would rate it in the middle at the moment.
There are ofcourse some cities/regions which are "poor" but not to the degree where your income would make a huge difference.

So if you intend to attract women with your money, you will mostly attract the bad ones.

On the other hand, you really don't need that at all, just being nice and polite will bring you further when you think.
You will be suprised to see that on average the men in Russia act like assholes.
Their attitude on average is equal to the bitchines of western women.
So instead of flashing with money, wear nice casual clothes, have a nice haircut etc. While those aBibas+leather jacket+millitary cut jerks drink bear and spit on the street near car park.

But for this you have to go to smaller cities, not Moscow or Saint petersburg, because these cities are more developed, and the dudes know how to act and have money.

2)

I already told that in other posts but I will repeat that for you.
In general asians are seen as pussies in slavic countries. What I mean by that is that local men will think that you are easy to scare or be scammed. Also the local women think in this way too.

That means that if you really intend to live in such places, you will see racism, and maybe you will have to fight some schmocks.

The Women who are afte Asians, are mostly eather those who tired from local morrons or teenagers who watch alot of doramas/manga etc.

That is why they will tend to have a serious relationship with you, no one night stands.


Ukraine

Economical shithole, here is your Income will play a major rolle. Not only that but also your citizenship.

Local men are much worse then the russian, while in Russia you would find the jerks mostly in smaller cities, in Ukraine however they are everythere.
Major characteristics: stupid,masculine(appes/cavemen),racist, mostly poor.

Here you have the biggest chance of being killed just for your looks or money.
As you may know there is a war going on, and altought some morons claim it is safe in Kiew etc, I would not recommend you to stay there longterm. Since the local police is infiltrated with Nazis and War criminals.

The local newspapers report on a weekly basis about attempts of robbery by army,police or even national security officers.

Last year if I remmember it correctly the Vietnamese diaspore in Odessa, was robbed by local police in front off Tv cameras in a daylight.

But here you have the best chances to find a pretty wife, the majority of women will be happy to get out of that shit holle. So if you want to marry someone and bring her back, then this is the place to go.

Belarus

Economically so-so.
At the moment it is safe as long as you don't get involved in politics.
Women are beautiful and educated, local men are not that bad.
Same as in Russia, just being nice is enough.



So to summ it up:

Russia:
Beautiful and educated women, almost no competition from locals in small cities, being nice and polite is enough + secure small income.
Mostly safe, but you may land in a fight if some Ape tries to humilate you in front of your woman, or pick her up in front of you.
Reccomend to live 2-4 years and learn the language.

Ukraine:
Beautiful women, have an education but mostly stupid(bought marks,diploms etc).
Income and your citizenship plays bigger role then your personallity.
Very unsafe but the women are desperated to some degree.
You may land in a fight, but here you may get killed for nothing thanks to criminals who call themself a "police" and millions of illegal fire weapons on the hands.
Recommend to stay short term not longer then a year, no need to learn the language since the women will try their best to communicate with you


Belarus.

Beautiful and educated women, income same as in Russia, your personality play bigger role.
Safe, and not so many local "Apes" so you would not have to worry that much about fights or your image in front of your woman.

Recommend to stay short-long term, if you have a work.

[PeruLover12]

(08-03-2016 06:37 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

Well I am russian/ukranian, so I can give you some tipps about Russia,Ukraine and Belarus.

Ukraine

Economical shithole, here is your Income will play a major rolle. Not only that but also your citizenship.

Local men are much worse then the russian, while in Russia you would find the jerks mostly in smaller cities, in Ukraine however they are everythere.
Major characteristics: stupid,masculine(appes/cavemen),racist, mostly poor.

Here you have the biggest chance of being killed just for your looks or money.
As you may know there is a war going on, and altought some morons claim it is safe in Kiew etc, I would not recommend you to stay there longterm. Since the local police is infiltrated with Nazis and War criminals.

But here you have the best chances to find a pretty wife, the majority of women will be happy to get out of that shit holle. So if you want to marry someone and bring her back, then this is the place to go.

Please don't post about things you have no knowledge of or regurgitate Russian propaganda.


Ukrainian men are far ahead of Russian men in terms of looks and taking care of themselves. Russian men are the worst in the Slavic FSU despite having more money than other nationalities. A Ukrainian guy from a provincial town like Chernigov will be infinitely more well turned out and in shape than a Russian from even a large city like Novosibirsk. Russian men are much cooler to hang with however.

There is a much bigger chance of getting into a fight or attacked in Russia than Ukraine. I've been mugged twice in Russia, saw fights every weekend outside clubs etc. Look at road rage videos on youtube and its never in Ukraine where people are operating on a much lower level of aggression. Look at 'Stop Ham' videos and see how different the aggression level is between Russia and Ukraine. In Ukraine even in small towns you are at worse ignored but never mistreated where as in Russia violence is never too many tables away in venues or street corners.

"Morons claim Kiev is safe" - I won't respond to your stupidity on that subject since you have no idea about Kiev.

Lastly women are in general not searching for a way out, or at least not in any overt manner. Your passport in Ukraine is for the most part a negative and not a positive especially with any woman who is attractive and hence has options locally. Being foreign is much cooler in Russia than in Ukraine.

[Cyclone]

(07-31-2016 05:10 AM)Stickman Wrote:  

Quote:

If your game is shit, you'll get mediocre women wherever you go. Look at all the dopey westerners with 4s in Thailand/ phill. Nobody wants to be that guy come on

Not true.

I used to have the shittiest game but I was able to consistently get 7+ in SEA and guys I know as well.
Those dopey foreigners honestly can't even get a 2s in their own country. a 4s and is a huge upgrade for them or else they wouldn't be there.

I'd have to agree with this, actually
I understand that guys want others to be successful in their "own city" first, but there's definitely a wall you can hit with that. Getting massive attention from most girls around you can change your personality just as much as going out hard 3-4x/week
.

[Vronski]

(08-03-2016 06:37 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

Ukraine

Economical shithole, here is your Income will play a major rolle. Not only that but also your citizenship.

Local men are much worse then the russian, while in Russia you would find the jerks mostly in smaller cities, in Ukraine however they are everythere.
Major characteristics: stupid,masculine(appes/cavemen),racist, mostly poor.

Here you have the biggest chance of being killed just for your looks or money.
As you may know there is a war going on, and altought some morons claim it is safe in Kiew etc, I would not recommend you to stay there longterm. Since the local police is infiltrated with Nazis and War criminals.

The local newspapers report on a weekly basis about attempts of robbery by army,police or even national security officers.

Last year if I remmember it correctly the Vietnamese diaspore in Odessa, was robbed by local police in front off Tv cameras in a daylight.

But here you have the best chances to find a pretty wife, the majority of women will be happy to get out of that shit holle. So if you want to marry someone and bring her back, then this is the place to go.

[Lindsey Graham]

I like Aussie girls, they are certainly easy for me and they are overall cool to hang out with. I've travelled to many countries and trust me, there are places with women who are much much worse.

[Saweeep]

(08-04-2016 03:15 AM)Lindsey Graham Wrote:  

I like Aussie girls, they are certainly easy for me and they are overall cool to hang out with. I've travelled to many countries and trust me, there are places with women who are much much worse.

I'm intrigued to know where.

Most Aussie women I've encountered make our British girls seem positively small and feminine!

[Russianbrother]

(08-03-2016 11:57 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 06:37 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

Well I am russian/ukranian, so I can give you some tipps about Russia,Ukraine and Belarus.

Ukraine

Economical shithole, here is your Income will play a major rolle. Not only that but also your citizenship.

Local men are much worse then the russian, while in Russia you would find the jerks mostly in smaller cities, in Ukraine however they are everythere.
Major characteristics: stupid,masculine(appes/cavemen),racist, mostly poor.

Here you have the biggest chance of being killed just for your looks or money.
As you may know there is a war going on, and altought some morons claim it is safe in Kiew etc, I would not recommend you to stay there longterm. Since the local police is infiltrated with Nazis and War criminals.

But here you have the best chances to find a pretty wife, the majority of women will be happy to get out of that shit holle. So if you want to marry someone and bring her back, then this is the place to go.

Please don't post about things you have no knowledge of or regurgitate Russian propaganda.


Ukrainian men are far ahead of Russian men in terms of looks and taking care of themselves. Russian men are the worst in the Slavic FSU despite having more money than other nationalities. A Ukrainian guy from a provincial town like Chernigov will be infinitely more well turned out and in shape than a Russian from even a large city like Novosibirsk. Russian men are much cooler to hang with however.

There is a much bigger chance of getting into a fight or attacked in Russia than Ukraine. I've been mugged twice in Russia, saw fights every weekend outside clubs etc. Look at road rage videos on youtube and its never in Ukraine where people are operating on a much lower level of aggression. Look at 'Stop Ham' videos and see how different the aggression level is between Russia and Ukraine. In Ukraine even in small towns you are at worse ignored but never mistreated where as in Russia violence is never too many tables away in venues or street corners.

"Morons claim Kiev is safe" - I won't respond to your stupidity on that subject since you have no idea about Kiev.

Lastly women are in general not searching for a way out, or at least not in any overt manner. Your passport in Ukraine is for the most part a negative and not a positive especially with any woman who is attractive and hence has options locally. Being foreign is much cooler in Russia than in Ukraine.

First off all I was born in Kiew, so I know my own country better then you ever will do.
I also have lived in Russia and later moved to Europe, so I have a broad coverage about different countries.

As I said, some idiots say that Ukraine is safe, well if tomorrow bombshells fall on your head, don't say that I haven't warned you.

Following your stupid logic, you can aswell go to Afghanistans Kabul,Irag or Syria.

And no, women DO look for a way out, so don't spread that crap.
If you go to ukrgostat, you will see that in the last years several millions of people flew from Ukraine.

Obviosly some of them were running from war in 2014, but another half of those from 2015-2016 are the economical "refugees".

If you seriosly want to state that in a country with an ongoing war, and economical situation falling deeper in the shit on daily basiss, women are not trying to get the fuck out, then you are just a troll.

That doesn't mean that they will trow themself at you as soon as you stepped out of your door, but it is clearly that their desired "standarts" got much lower compared to the 2010-2012 state.

Ofcourse not everyone is broke as fuck there, so some of them still have better local opportunities compared to you. But the tendency is shifting towards desperation.

I have even written a housework in my University about economical sytuation of Ukraine, and an analyse of future development of their Economy.
To cut this short, they are fucked for the next decade and the situation will only get worse. Which as always will lead to surplus of available women who want to get away from country.

[PeruLover12]

(08-05-2016 09:29 AM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

First off all I was born in Kiew, so I know my own country better then you ever will do.
I also have lived in Russia and later moved to Europe, so I have a broad coverage about different countries.

As I said, some idiots say that Ukraine is safe, well if tomorrow bombshells fall on your head, don't say that I haven't warned you.

Following your stupid logic, you can aswell go to Afghanistans Kabul,Irag or Syria.

And...

I had to stop reading at that point.

Yes of course you were born in Kiev.

Please stop writing about things of which you have no knowledge.

[Vronski]

(08-05-2016 09:29 AM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

First off all I was born in Kiew, so I know my own country better then you ever will do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

[YMD]

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  

Roosh himself saved up 30 grand before moving to South America.

By the way, does anyone know what Roosh was doing after he came back from Latin America (and before he returned there)?

I read A dead bat in Paraguay, but he didn't mention what he was doing during the period.
I thought he was doing a new corporate job, learning Spanish (as well as Portuguese?) and started to work on his own business.
Now I'm really curious about that.

[goonies]

I think it's pretty clear where your heart is in all this. Go with your gut. Take the risk, or be forever miserable. Is there any specific country you are leaning toward the most?

[YMD]

(08-12-2016 09:51 PM)goonies Wrote:  

I think it's pretty clear where your heart is in all this. Go with your gut. Take the risk, or be forever miserable. Is there any specific country you are leaning toward the most?

Yes, it's absolutely clear. No matter if it's easier or harder to game girls there, I don't want to die before I visit a country where is full of women I like. Reading those posts encouraged me to take this new challenge.

I'm interested in Czech and Slovakia, so I'll definitely visit both. I used to be interested in Poland too, but it seems to me that Poland has now so many Roosh's followers who are as desperate as I am, which would make the competition more intense. I'm not really sure if I go there.

Also, I might visit one of Ukraine/Belarus/Russia too, because I understand a bit of Russian and want to experience cultures which would be drastically different from ones in Japan and Australia. Having read Bang Ukraine, I understand it'll never be easy to game girls there, but gaming Aussie girls is already tough to a Japanese guy like me. Also, I want to make a comparison between girls in West and East from a non-westerns' perspective.

[Pimping]

I'm Australian.

Australia is among the most difficult places to game, chads everywhere. Any girl who is an 8+ can get guys over 6ft tall, ripped, rich or famous footballers. Throw in the fact that Aussies inherited the "I'm too good to talk to you" from the Brits and it does not make for a very pleasant dating culture.

Completely disagree with those saying not to move. It's been said before, most Aussie guys are completely unaware of their world sexual market value

Aussie guy goes to:

USA/Vegas - results double
Eastern Europe - results triple
SEA - results triple

The only place on earth comparable to the nightmare that is Aust for dating is the UK, an Aussie guy going there is unlikely to do much better than at home.

Chinese/Vietnamese FOB Asian girls who are a 5 or 6 in their own country come to Australia and automatically can get a guy better looking and richer than she can in her own.

Besides the masculine/chad/football culture there is an equal amount of soyboy cucks mostly from Melbourne who help push the feminist agenda further in Australia too

That all being said, Australia is safe, clean, has high pay for reasonable hours and working conditions. An excellent work life balance, superior amenities and services to a lot of other countries, just don't expect to find a girl here.

So you have a choice, be comfortable, rich and get fat in Australia or go elsewhere for slim attractive woman but not have the same creature comforts.

Japan is comfortable too of course but as you already know, bad work life balance though all the overtime etc though I think even in Japan you'd have a much better response from the girls.