[AWright]

What do you do in the oil industry? How did you get a job without experience?

[ChicagoFire]

The short answer is look up companies and apply. Even then and I'll repeat I don't want to do grunt work and work in this dangerous environment. You may find yourself in my situation if you get a job in oil. My vague answer is I do activities that are similar to construction work.

Long answer is in my posts on this thread. If you really want to turn your life around (not sure about your situation) I would suggest reading them.

[ChicagoFire]

Day off today so I am working like a madman on my side projects today:

It's a win-win situation where if I get to do more gigs with my oil company around the US but if not I got other options.

Just sent a mass email to people all over the US offering to volunteer. When I did food service there was always the possibility of getting fired, laid off, or getting sent home. That mentality never left me. Might as well play the "roulette wheel" by putting myself out there.

I mentioned this on the forum before but I offered to volunteer at an organization last year and my contact person was responsive until she inexplicably stopped talking to me. I tried again this year by bypassing her but when I brought up how the contact person was rude to me I didn't get an answer so I fucked off with that. I'm nice until you fuck with me!

[Zenta]

I have a fairly decent job with great benefits here in the Midwest in property management, the problem being is that its very location dependent in a shitty state, can't win them all. I've been thinking of trying to start writing a series of books aimed more at a ~8-16 crowd as they don't really need to be incredibly lengthy or detailed. Short stories ~150 pg length. The goal is to eventually have enough passive income to live in SEA with rent and basic necessities covered ($1000-1500 /mo). I don't think I'd get that from writing kids/teen books alone but between that and savings/index fund investments it may be possible 10 years down the road.

[TopPanda]

Uh, this week I put UK my apartment up for sale. It's a mad plan but I've never been that interested in bricks and mortar. I had two viewings the same week the place went on the property portal, so somebody must be interested in property.

I hope to free up the capital to double my investment warchest and generate huge monthly cashflow. Then I would be pretty much permanently location independent.

[Lino]

(01-23-2019 09:42 AM)fmman Wrote:  

I don't know if any of you have considered investing in real estate or property as we English call it. I bought a cheap house in Ireland with no mortgage and I rent it out. It makes me about €400 a month after taxes and expenses plus good capital gain. That is not enough to live off as Ireland is a very expensive place to live especially groceries. I'm fortunate enough to have worked for 25 years in electronics and did lots of overtime and lived a very frugal lifestyle so I have about £300k saved up. I forewent driving nice cars and having expensive TVs nights out so it wasn't a fab time all these years, but I'd like to now enjoy it before I can too much older that I can't pull any more. I'm a young looking 44 year old. I also bought an old country house to do up so I have a place to stay though its very rough you wouldn't bring a bird there.. With my savings I could buy a few more properties to rent out but am nervous about blowing it all, in one asset class. I had to leave my old job in England so I am unemployed and not doing very well so far this year apart from the above investments. Not claiming benefits/welfare either, I am lucky I have savings. There isn't any work in my field, with web design like above, I wouldn't know where to start. If you were going to live in Columbia can't you buy a load of real estate ( its cheap?) and live off the income that way?

Just seen your post. I am in a similar situation as you, can I ask you the average yield for a rental property, Assuming you’re in Dublin?
In Paris real estate is crazy expensive and it yields barely 2-3%, the advantage is that prices constantly increase so you make a profit when you resell. Thinking about investing abroad to generate some income as I won’t have a pension when I retire.

[VNvet]

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)ArloDash Wrote:  

I'm a freelance writer, mainly. Have a few solid clients that keep work very steady.

Been abroad for two years. The pay is enough to sustain a lower middle class existence in the USA. In most developing countries, it's like being rich and I can save/invest at least $20,000 a year while eating out, traveling, and taking Uber places. That, and you pay almost nothing in income tax (just 15% self employment), further sweetening the deal.

Being lower middle class in Eastern Europe can give you the life that being upper middle class in most of the USA can give you.

I probably work between 25-35 hours a week.

My chief concern is that even though I'm saving a lot of money straight out of school (and no debts), it's tough to see how I can translate this into a higher paying role as life gets more serious further down the line.

Similar situation as you. Young graduate, no debt, and a decent dead-end freelance writing career.

Making my own affiliate sites and selling a marketing service (SEO, negative SEO, reputation management) are what I'm moving towards. Will update once that ball gets rolling over the summer.

My main goal is to be the guy cutting the check. More responsibility, more risk, and more money.

[ChicagoFire]

I currently work in the oil industry. Sometimes it sucks because your boss asks you to stay late and since I work the graveyard shift I compete against the morning rush.

With that being said I have days where all I do is sit or stand idly. I use that time wisely by studying up on tech careers. Today I signed up for at least one tech course. I'm so pressed for time nowadays, once I get some time in a couple hours I might sign up for a second tech course. All the years "failing" in the food industry has made me value my time and manage it effectively. It set me back some money but I think in a matter of months I will build up my skillset and network and not only make more money but drastically cut down on my working time. Yes, I want to be able to have a life and party, I'm not a workaholic.

Not bashing the oil industry but I just want more money while working less and having the option of working remotely.

[ChicagoFire]

Haven't updated this in a while too busy working.

* Attending networking events for the past 2 weeks. I go back to work next week so I have time to mingle with people. Current job is decent but I can definitely make even more. Once I go back to work it will be back to hitting the books.
* Studying skills that can better prepare me for the future. Current job may be automated in 10 years if not 20. People older than me tell me I'm on the right track. This particular field will make me work location independent and would blow my current compensation out of the water.
* My side business idea is stalling for certain reasons. I'll reconnect with appropriate people in a couple weeks.
* I found paid membership events that can move me closer to working location independent. I just don't have the time to hang around there at the moment since I'm contracted to work until early June.

Bottom line is I'm moving up the socioeconomic food chain. It helps me psychologically and can only be good for my "game."

Longer term picture is me working for myself and with a couple employees. If anybody knows anything about me I hate being bossed around and dealing with pricks.

[Zenta]

ChicagoFire, Thanks for the update, always enjoy reading them while you keep this thread alive. No new updates on my end, I'm in small business with physical locations doing property management so for me I am looking to explore ways to automate or ease work burden to be able to travel for longer periods of time. Good luck on the side business!

[Dilated]

Emailed the Bulgarian consulate to see how much income is necessary to prove to get long-term residence. $300/mo. is the answer.

I’m skeptical about this.

[ChicagoFire]

https://www.outsite.co/

I don't vouch for this company and will try them out either in June or October. It really depends on how my current company deals with me. They have locations in Cali, Hawaii, New York and more. If I do a couple trial runs with them I might report back. One thing you can do is hang around in SF and take a train ride down to LA like a mini vacation and networking trip.

I have experience with AirBnB and this company's model might give AirBnB a run for their money. Being able to live on about 1K per month as a non member at tech hub San Francisco or even just beautiful LA without signing a lease isn't too shabby.

[ChicagoFire]

I'm talking to outsite's admissions tomorrow. In an ideal world I would quit my current job and be a globe trotter. Some of the guys tell me about how they sometimes have to drive 5 hours to go to their jobs in bad conditions and that will never happen to me. As some people know from my posts I live in IL at the moment and want to leave sometime in the future. Unfortunately I have things going on in my personal life that won't let me do that such as my dad dying.

I've been making cold emails and doing research on location independent lifestyles while I'm standing around at my job. Unfortunately I don't have any magical formula for converting cold as some people simply don't respond even if you offer to volunteer.* I could only imagine it being 100X harder for people that have to sell to make a living. Another day on the grind!

* I got off the phone with someone from a nonprofit and everything seemed to go well. She told me she sent me an email and she was cool with me texting her. Hours later I see no email and I touch base with her and no response.
FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!

[Fitman2018]

For all you guys that have had good jobs or businesses in the USA or UK that need to be there and made good money let's say 70-80k USD a year. Has it been worth taking the plunge into freelancing or starting an online business or things completely online to travel more and live in different places for weeks or months at a time? Living in Tampa and Miami Florida, I do well in real estate enough to get by, live comfortable, go out and travel here and there. Looking at the digital nomads and location independent careers on how people can live in Latin America and SE Asia and eventually anywhere is inspiring to me. I just am having doubts on since I already live in a warm climate and good areas by the clubs and tourists, and in general "women are women" where some will be easy to lay others not. For example realistically how is living in Playa del Carmen, Mexico City, Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali Colombia, Lima Peru, Thailand, and other places any different then gaming Miami Beach tourists lol. Not sure if it is worth it to make the jump and go city to city a month or two at a time lol stay in airbnb's. Ugh life debates driving me crazy!

The same can be said let's just say you live in NYC, Chicago, or any other major city where you will have different people constantly to game. If anything I am motivated by the change of scenery every couple months and hypes of living in different places but as far as making sense money wise and women wise I am trying to see how it does lol.

[ChicagoFire]

^^

You're too comfortable with your lifestyle. You probably won't make the jump.

I work in dangerous conditions in the graveyard shift and sometimes have to stay late and compete with the morning commute. To say I can do significantly better would be an understatement. For some strange reason I'm not tired after working 10+ hours today.

[WhatTheFuck]

(04-30-2019 07:04 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  

You're too comfortable with your lifestyle. You probably won't make the jump.

ChicagoFire, I enjoyed how you hijacked the location independent/work remote thread making it into your personal diary about leaving the food industry and getting into the oil industry, or medical industry, or getting a sales job, or whatever sounded better than flipping burgers on any particular day.

Let's be honest though. Becoming location independent is not hard, but you have to choose to pursue it. Not vaguely think about becoming location independent at some undetermined time in the future. You're being harsh to Fitman, but you yourself probably won't make the jump either.

I remember just a little over a month ago how you were overjoyed about leaving your food industry job for the new oil job. And now you already want to quit your new job?

Maybe, it's time to realize you might be one of those people like me who will never be happy working in a "real" in person job for someone else. These jobs used to bring out the worst in me and I would always find something to complain about. I would bitch about how I could run things so much better and how inefficient everything was and how incompetent people I worked with were. Yet, there I was. Clocking in everyday putting in the hours and not doing a damned thing to change. I was choosing to be there. I had no right to complain.

You'll have to make your own way man. Forget all these excuses you keep coming up with. Lay off the politics and preparing for the collapse of America. Skip all the networking events. Stop applying to hundreds of new jobs. Put all the new hobbies on hold, including your "side business" you are working on. Because if it is not making money, it is not a business, it is a hobby.

What can you do to make your first dollar online, today?

[Zeroblack]

I'll chime in too.

The past saturday I got a domain and hosting to test out an affiliate product. Still waiting for propagation to finish, today's the 3rd day so tomorrow morning I'll be able to install a premium theme and work on copy. Apart from that, I earn a little side income teaching eng but this website is going to be the first of a series of landing pages that generate some income each month.