[doc holliday]

(07-08-2016 04:52 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 04:42 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

...if you cant stand blood and guts as eradicator said hes 100% right stay away far far away because what you do see is fucking disgusting.....But thats just my opinion

While my wife's c-section was hidden behind a blanket, the mere jerking motions coupled with the assumptions of what was going on was enough to tighten my chest.

I'm surprised they let you guys stay in the room for the c-section, they whisked me out of the room when my second twin wouldn't come out. I was in the room for my other 3. I thought it was a great experience but then again, I'm in the medical field so I wasn't grossed out. I think its all a matter of personal preference but I would do it again. Really makes you ponder the wonder of life when you see a new human being coming out into the world.

[Laner]

I was in there.

I was like Mickey Goldwill in Rocky, towel over the shoulder and a sport bottle full of water. The mother of my son is a fighter, took no drugs and just saddled up and pushed like tank engine. I mopped her brow, gave her pep talks and mouthfuls of water.

I will agree it was a hard place to be in. Its the most womanly place in the world. Worse than being a female in the dressing room during the second intermission of game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals, and the game is 3-3.

There was a point at the very end where I heard the midwife say that this is the last push, then they will have to snip a bit of her vag. I relayed the message, talked some motivation before her next contraction, and she pushed so hard that my son was delivered with a shot of pink fluid which hit the midwife and wall.

I was there for my sons first breaths.

I cut his cord.

I was given a tour of the placenta by the midwife, which was fascinating.

I stood to the side the whole time. Always stand to the side fellas.

[AboveAverageJoe]

My childrens birth was overseen by an Indian Ob-Gyn who used baby oil and his fingers to keep her from tearing or needing to be cut.
I was like:

[MajorStyles]

I was not in the room for my daughter's birth. This trend was initiated during the 1970s, during the height of second-wave feminism, and I think it should be viewed with a high level of suspicion.

First, the man's presence affects the woman's ability to relax. She begins thinking about "sharing" the experience - instead of relaxing like she should be. This tension then delays the delivery. Eventually, the doctor has to call in for a C-section because he doesn't have all day. The subsequent C-section is more painful and requires a longer recovery time before she can have a child again (roughly two years). There are now a wide variety of magazines, both conservative and liberal, that agree on this point. Here is one written by Michale Odent, who was an obstetrician for nearly fifty years. He is adamant that it has a negative affect on the delivery.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...child.html

Secondly, it is widely believed that watching a woman give birth during the delivery can harm the intimacy of the marriage. This is not something I would want to mess with. I know there are many people today who scoff at the knowledge of our forefathers. But I believe if there is one thing that previous generations knew about - if anything - it was interpersonal, sexual relations.

And finally, on a side note, I believe that some women want a man in the delivery room for dubious reasons. She wants the man to see this massacre, hoping that he will lose interest in her sexually. That way, she can later blame him when the sex dries up. A good example of this would be a woman in her early forties who has baby rabies, and gets some beta shlub to knock her up. She doesn't want to go the long haul with the guy, so she starts doing things to sabotage the relationship. One way to sabotage said relationship is to kill the intimacy. So she encourages Beta Joe into the delivery room, hoping that he will become nauseous. Then when the relationship dies, she can blame him for the demise. It wasn't her fault after all...it was HIM that lost interest. Meanwhile, the bitch knew what she was doing all along. Then, she catches the next open seat on the cock carousel, like she was doing for the last twenty years.

[John Michael Kane]

I could go either way on this. If my wife wanted me there, sure I'd support her. But if she preferred to be alone, that's fine too. You can't go through her experience, and the fact that she is birthing the child I sired inside of her makes me want her to feel comfortable, whatever is her choice.

[Atheistani]

(07-08-2016 03:35 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

I was not in the room for my daughter's birth. This trend was initiated during the 1970s, during the height of second-wave feminism, and I think it should be viewed with a high level of suspicion.

I agree that there is a whiff of feminism about the man's presence.

(07-08-2016 03:35 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

Secondly, it is widely believed that watching a woman give birth during the delivery can harm the intimacy of the marriage. This is not something I would want to mess with. I know there are many people today who scoff at the knowledge of our forefathers. But I believe if there is one thing that previous generations knew about - if anything - it was interpersonal, sexual relations.

Well put

(07-08-2016 03:35 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

And finally, on a side note, I believe that some women want a man in the delivery room for dubious reasons.

Exactly, I believe most women want this simply because

"Oh he's my husband and he better be there to show me he cares because I'm so important".
I think most of it is vanity and I would expect most non-traditional women would want their husbands around for just that reason.

This thread kinda reminds me of Ross and Rachel in Friends, when she is giving birth and he's there like some kind of beta chump. Even when I was in my teens, that scene looked weird to me, compared to old school films where the man would be pacing up and down the waiting room, sharing a drink with his male companions when the good news arrived from behind the wall.

Great post on the whole, repped.

[Engineer]

Done it twice. It's not just about the man and wife. Your legacy is drawing their first breath. It's your opportunity to cement the awesome responsibility you've committed to. You begin to form the bond, the sacred promise to raise them properly in this world.

Whatever our ancestors did was also probably because their medical technology was primitive. My first had a terrible Apgar score (1 or 2/10) and a big red button was pushed summoning a quick response team. First experience with near death, helping me realize the true depth of responsibility a parent has, and how to cope with future emergency situations (calm and logical for their sake, confront emotions later when you have the luxury of time). Four times now in the past 20 years that has helped me in a crisis.

Had no effect on the intimacy of our marriage from my perspective. The other 99.99999999% of the time we spent together sure did though. If your wife is sociopathic enough to (even subconsciously) plot the demise of your marriage via the delivery room, your relationship was doomed anyway.

I'm against her mother being there. A potential wedge for future family dynamics IMO. Not really any of her business, she's had plenty of time to bond with her daughter before then. Full disclosure, my in-laws were an especially annoying/nosy bunch so plenty of bias in my answer.

[Lunostrelki]

(07-08-2016 03:35 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

Secondly, it is widely believed that watching a woman give birth during the delivery can harm the intimacy of the marriage. This is not something I would want to mess with. I know there are many people today who scoff at the knowledge of our forefathers. But I believe if there is one thing that previous generations knew about - if anything - it was interpersonal, sexual relations.

The previous generations probably had a lot less visual sight of each others genitals; even for sex they would do it at night and not focus attention on the nether regions.
The "knowledge" you're referring to was when modesty was still a thing. For a man to see female genitals in full view—even those of his wife—would have certainly been off-putting for both parents.

[TravelerKai]

(07-08-2016 05:07 PM)Engineer Wrote:  

Done it twice. It's not just about the man and wife. Your legacy is drawing their first breath. It's your opportunity to cement the awesome responsibility you've committed to. You begin to form the bond, the sacred promise to raise them properly in this world.

Whatever our ancestors did was also probably because their medical technology was primitive. My first had a terrible Apgar score (1 or 2/10) and a big red button was pushed summoning a quick response team. First experience with near death, helping me realize the true depth of responsibility a parent has, and how to cope with future emergency situations (calm and logical for their sake, confront emotions later when you have the luxury of time). Four times now in the past 20 years that has helped me in a crisis.

Had no effect on the intimacy of our marriage from my perspective. The other 99.99999999% of the time we spent together sure did though. If your wife is sociopathic enough to (even subconsciously) plot the demise of your marriage via the delivery room, your relationship was doomed anyway.

I'm against her mother being there. A potential wedge for future family dynamics IMO. Not really any of her business, she's had plenty of time to bond with her daughter before then. Full disclosure, my in-laws were an especially annoying/nosy bunch so plenty of bias in my answer.

This. I almost got into it with my mother in there. Next time she will have to wait outside. I will never allow any mothers in there ever again. Never.

The older I get, the more I realize that I have to manage the grandparents with basic game, little by little. It is what it is.

[armenia4ever]

I was there for my son's birth as well as my mother in law.

18 hours of it, but when the contractions started hitting hard, at one point she screamed, "I feel like someone is fitting my butthole!"

The doctor who delivered my son was actually a twin and he and his brother were on the amazing race.

I must admit though, at one point i felt powerless. Besides gripping my wife's hand, there wasn't anything I could do to make things go faster. At one point I got up and just paced back and forth around my room.

(Comfort tests come at you like crazy when she's in labor. )

When I saw my son's head start to come out, it hit me - I'm going to be a father. What would I say to my son when I first held him? I ended up saying ,"Son, you are loved."

He ended up in the NICU for about 3 weeks.

If you can see a woman give birth, you can stomach anything, and I've seen some nasty shit working in apartment maintenance.

Seeing your son draw breath and utter his first cry... its a feeling you have to experience for yourself. I also kept thinking at the hospital how I was outbreeding the sjws and how I was going to be the patriarch of my family.

[Laner]

^^^^^Great post @ engineer

I wrote on another thread a long time back, that I don't see women going into birth with the mind of calculating their divorce. But I do know that they will use the scene of that room and that situation to create a hole so deep that their man might never be able to climb out of it.

Women leverage strength out of what they can. Childbirth is beautiful but its not amazing. It happens thousands of times a minute. Its just too bad that men often spend the rest of their lives putting themselves purposely in debt just so they can humble brag around their equally hopeless friends about what kind of emasculated men they all are.

[Kona]

I've been present for several child births. Its disgusting.

I was basically the cheif delivery doctor for a woman on a boat once. As I recall there were seventeen people on board, and they all just kind of stood there except for one lady who was a medical technician or something.

I even turned my hat backwards like Sylvester Stallone in the arm wrestling movie.

The girl having the baby was close to seven months pregnant. The baby was very sick looking and there was a ton of blood. It was a boy and it was moving but not crying.

I was covered in blood, and when the coast guard pulled up they almost drew guns on me.

They took her, the baby and some dude away. I never heard from them again.I called the hospital I thought they would have gone to a few days later and I got someone to tell me they were all fine and had left. I always wondered why the ungrateful people didn't track me down to say thank you.

Aloha!

[AboveAverageJoe]

You are a doctor Kona? My kids were both born at Castle Hospital just like I was. They have a pretty good birthing center and it is just down the street from my Tutu's house.

[eradicator]

(07-08-2016 11:07 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I've been present for several child births. Its disgusting.

I was basically the cheif delivery doctor for a woman on a boat once. As I recall there were seventeen people on board, and they all just kind of stood there except for one lady who was a medical technician or something.

I even turned my hat backwards like Sylvester Stallone in the arm wrestling movie.

The girl having the baby was close to seven months pregnant. The baby was very sick looking and there was a ton of blood. It was a boy and it was moving but not crying.

I was covered in blood, and when the coast guard pulled up they almost drew guns on me.

They took her, the baby and some dude away. I never heard from them again.I called the hospital I thought they would have gone to a few days later and I got someone to tell me they were all fine and had left. I always wondered why the ungrateful people didn't track me down to say thank you.

Aloha!

Sometimes your "Aloha!" sig reads like it is part of the end of your post, and in this case it totally fits. Aloha indeed.

[Kona]

(07-08-2016 11:29 PM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  

You are a doctor Kona? My kids were both born at Castle Hospital just like I was. They have a pretty good birthing center and it is just down the street from my Tutu's house.

That day I was an amateur doctor.

The lady went to Wilcox on Kauai, so she probably got better treatment on the boat.

Ive been stitched at Casso as we call it.

Aloha!

[rpg]

Seeig your kid born will make you wonder how they can survive it. Being pushed out like that is brutal. Afterbirth looks like a raw liver.

[spokepoker]

Heaven forbid you have to see some of the drastic things that need to be done with a difficult birth, like if the baby gets stuck with head out, they either have to push it back up in to perform cesarian, or break its collar bone and pull it out. 5 minute decision.

[Pride male]

This thread is worthless without pics.

[ElConquistador]

(07-09-2016 03:01 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

This thread is worthless without pics.

[EDantes]

Don't have a particular concern about it.

[eradicator]

This thread would become worthless with pix

[redbeard]

(07-09-2016 03:01 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

This thread is worthless without pics.

This forum is worthless without comments like this.