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Any Other Vegabounds Out There with No Home?
#76

Any Other Vegabounds Out There with No Home?

Quote: (07-17-2016 12:34 PM)renotime Wrote:  

For those of that are constantly on the move, what do you take with you? Just a carry on? A giant checked bag?

I have one checked bag I bring with me everywhere and another backpack or weekend bag for my laptop and other little stuff that I would never want to check.

Having just a carry on is too limiting for me. My first stop whenever I get somewhere is always to my Airbnb or my hotel, so it's not a big deal having just one bag to deal with for an short amount of time.
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#77

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I travel with just a carry on + laptop bag. I can get plenty of clothes in there and the laptop bag can fit my chargers + other gadgets. I like living with minimal possessions.

The only time it holds me back is with shoes, I can fit a pair of smart plimsoll style shoes inside and wear a pair of trainers but there's no room for any real smart shoes. The same goes for stuff like jackets and evening shirts (I only carry 2 proper shirts with me). I like to look good so the only option is that if I'm planning on staying somewhere a couple of months or more I'll do some shopping and if I'm lucky I'll have a girl to hang on to some clothes for me.
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I believe everybody has there own path based on there experiences. Not everybody is fortune to create rich experiences in there 20s to figure out the best lifestyle for them. So the best option is to learn from other peoples experiences and make decisions from there. I see conflicting views regarding security vs freedom. There is no right or wrong answer, at the end of the day just do you.
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Mine isnt exactly the OP's take on the idea of nomadism but having said that. I am trying to upgrade from walking around all day with 22kgs on my back and my dog attached to a van.

The ultra light packing school guys would criticize me but there s a few things that are useless and take up space until you absolutely need them
Its great for staying fit but it takes away a lot of resources , a thing I noticed r when I want to work on my mOre complex creative stuff.

I've managed to save a lot selling cheap art in the street though,and if I achieve RV grampa status before the yer is over it will be a personal victory.

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#80

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Hey man,

Mad respect for what you are doing and congratulations on the beginnings of your journey.

You should also understand it was years, YEARS before I even started having the first inklings of getting tired of being 100% nomadic. Thats how fun it is.

Anyways,

I just feel like now that the digital nomad scene has matured over the last few years the darker parts of it and this new lifestyle are starting to be explored more. Author Mark Manson broke ground on his article "The dark side of digital nomadism" in late 2013 that burst onto the scene and caused an explosive conversation within the community about the problems of moving around all the time and craving a lot of basic things you lose. All the things so many people were feeling but didn't have teh guts to say.

Also I think some people see it as a dichotomy between either having a soulless crushing corporate job with a terrible commute and an obese unhappy wife or selling all your shit, hitting the road, and never looking back.

I'm looking to explore a 3rd option that seems to be working out very well for nomadic people where they stay working 100% online but choose a suitable home base abroad, sign a lease, develop a social circle, friends, routine and stability but also can take off whenever the fuck they want for a trip to Barcelona or Tokyo or whatever and you can actually enjoy those 2 weeks instead of trying to juggle working on the net, building a new pipeline with girls, trying to hit some networking events etc.

Its sort of ironic that i'm craving routine, because I always used to preach that breaking routine is sort of like surfing in a way where the smashing of your life balance over and over again pushes you like a mofo out of your comfort zone and sculpts you. But I think its only to a certain extent for a certain amount of time. There is def diminishing returns on breaking routine where you're not really growing much out of it anymore and its more of an annoyance.

Anyways, we are in 2 very different places in our journey. Enjoy and if you ever have any questions about Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Mexico, Thailand, Serbia,Spain or travel in general (like maximizing point redemptions, getting best airfare) just shoot away i'm here to help.

PS I am trying to get my brother to travel more too, honestly I didn't read the original post, just replied to the convo but now that i see it I wanted to make clear i'm not discouraging you or anyone from traveling. If you are living somewhere in the suburbs of a 2nd tier US or Canadian city working a soulless corporate job GTFO immediately!

Quote: (07-11-2016 01:32 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

[quote] (07-10-2016 11:05 PM)frankiecred Wrote:  

God I have so much to say on this topic, I'd like to tell my story see if it helps anybody out in their journey.




However, it gets to the point of diminshing returns, especially once you start getting a little older. The lack of social network, the lack of stability, the lack of ROUTINE.

Lets be honest you can only see so many mountains, cathedrals, museums whatever the fuck until you stop caring. What do you really want in life? Everytime you go to a new city you reset your entire dating and social life pretty much back to zero.

Now i'm to the point where our business is really close to hitting the 7 figure mark this year and just traveling around isn't possible anymore.

I recentely turned 30 and realized I have a once in an opportunity to turn this lifestyle business into something really big and to fuck it up would be a mistake.

I had a heart to heart talk with my biz partner in CR about the future and realized if you want to be successful you can't just be moving around all the time fucking around, and frankly, meaningless ONS type pussy should be on the back burner of priorities though of course the chase if always fun.

I've also been more disciplined then ever losing tons of body fat on a keto diet while maintaining all the muscle I built. All these things need a routine, stability.

Also, the routine ... the routine .... for those of you who don't travel you don't understand. It takes a while to get into a routine. Even once you signed up for your gym, your coworking space, your airbnb etc, it still takes a while to settle in, and the worst part about this lifestyle is just when your settled and starting to build a social circle is right when you get yanked out .... why?

The truth is to be the best man you can be you need to stay put when you have serious larger than life goals. Chasing sunshine, surf and pussy is fun for a while but for some (at least for me), eventually you want more from life.

I think the best place to be where you can work abroad is to find one place, sign a lease and settle there. Just because you're tired of moving around doesn't mean you have to move back to your home country or city.

For me that place is almost definitely going to be Mexico City. Its a place where I have extremely high SMV possibly the highest of any city i've ever been to which means solving the girl situation is always easy, allowing me to focus more on money, muscles, self improvement and hobbies.

It depends on what you want

TLDR of this would be what CoCoBoy said. Living in airBNB and moving around may not be all its cracked up to be after a while, its not sustainable lifestyle if you're trying to build something big beyond a lifestyle business.

(07-09-2016, 09:01 AM)CocoBoy Wrote:  I'm one of those guys with no real home, I wander around often staying in nice hotels or serviced apartments for just weeks or months at a time. There are also times where I've got contracts on apartments/houses and stayed for 3 months or so. I thought that lifestyle of travel was my dream and I worked hard to make it happen by building an online business.

Ironically though what motivates me way more these days is building my business rather than travelling, perhaps I've got boring but I'm getting a bigger dopamine hit from seeing how far my business can go than travelling to yet another random place. Maybe I'm getting older too but I'm also not interested in wasting time with average girls just to get laid. The kind of girls you can't wait for them to leave after doing the business, If I'm going to spend my valuable time with a girl then I have to genuinely enjoy her company.

Also the biggest problem with this lifestyle is building a routine. Somebody else touched in it above but fitness and diet are important to me and that stuff just goes out of the window when travelling. If you move around too often then by the time you've established a good routine you will be heading off into the unknown again. That kind of shit is really unsettling for guys that need routine to be productive.

For the above reasons I'm now looking to pick a proper home base, preferably one that has good flight routes so that I can take holidays for a few days to do travelling stuff when I have that need to get away. My business is at the point where I'm going to be hitting baller status, I'm not sure I could live with myself if I let that opportunity slip away to sip coconuts on a new beach or chase some 6s.

A few things:

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Diminishing returns due to lack of social network, the lack of stability, the lack of routine


that is exactly why I'm doing this. I don't need routine or stability. I want freedom from that. Routine makes people comfortable. Routine is also the quickest way to waste your life. I spent my 20's stuck in a routine and I wasted a lot of time chasing some job title, matching my 401k, and trying to grow my savings. Why? So I can finally live when I'm 65? No thanks.

Also, you sound like the most important thing to you is growing your business. That's great bro, build a legacy and do something worthwhile to you, but I have no desire to be successful. If I'm going to be successful, success is going to have to find me because I'm always moving.

On the meaningless ONS type pussy, I haven't done that for a very long time. I'm more focused on making memories and meeting beautiful women, than I am seeing how many women I can fuck.

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You can only see so many mountains, cathedrals, museums whatever the fuck until you stop caring.

I could care less about those things. I'm not a sight-seeing and I have never been. I'll drop in to see a art painting every now and again but I spend most of time floating around in the pool, or sitting in a hot tub, smoking a cigar, with a few naked women. That will never get old to me.


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Every time you go to a new city you reset your entire dating and social life pretty much back to zero.

That's exactly what I want. I've been to over 30 countries. I have no problems meeting women wherever I go, and I don't see myself ever being alone in this lifetime, especially as I age and everyone around me goes downhill and I'm going uphill.

As far as male friends go, this forum is so big, and my social circle over the past year has expanded so much, I always have guys to meet no matter what country I go to. I never worry about a lack of male friends. And I can always make new friends in the gym, no matter where I go.


I think your thread is really good and it will resonate with a lot of guys on here, especially those who want to be successful and start a family. But the thing that you're running toward is what I'm running away from.

LatinoHeat (Former username "FrankieCred")

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#81

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I work 90% online and i can live anywhere i want. I have to travel alot in Europe but i can tell you the lifestyle is overrated. Roosh describes the situation very will in some posts. Chasing vagina is only temporary solution. Culture is the biigest attraction at the end of the day.

I can tell you, there is no place like home. I always miss home when i am away. I spent many years in Switzerland chasing degree, i was wishing to be back in Serbia everyday. I have success with women everywhere in Europe i have been, but nothing is better than the vagina back home. Not even talking about the friends and brotherhood i have back home.

You are in a phase were you need to find this place where you plant flag and call home, you just do not know where yet.
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#82

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Question for you South American travelers.

I'll be leaving soon for my new life. As things look now I have decided to spend four months in South America starting in the end of November. Peru, Chile and Colombia. Definitely want to be in Barranquilla for the festival in February.

My only possessions I will bring are a large hardshell suitcase, laptop bag and leather duffel. My plan is to travel using buses to cut my expenses down. Can I travel on buses with all of my stuff. How do you guys do this?
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Quote: (09-10-2016 11:06 PM)Schlep Wrote:  

Question for you South American travelers.

I'll be leaving soon for my new life. As things look now I have decided to spend four months in South America starting in the end of November. Peru, Chile and Colombia. Definitely want to be in Barranquilla for the festival in February.

My only possessions I will bring are a large hardshell suitcase, laptop bag and leather duffel. My plan is to travel using buses to cut my expenses down. Can I travel on buses with all of my stuff. How do you guys do this?

I have limited experience traveling by bus in Colombia, Brazil and Mexico.

I would recommend only taking a bus if it's a relatively short trip (up to 5 hours) and if the bus is comfortable/high end. For example, I really enjoyed traveling from Cancun to Tulum and Playa Del Carmen in Mexico. Also, I liked the bus ride from Aracaju to Salvador in Brazil. But I fucking hated traveling by bus from Bogota to Medellin and then to Cartagena in Colombia. A trip that takes an hour or so by plane could take a day by bus.

Safety can be a concern on cheaper buses, though I never had a problem. I was warned by a cop in Colombia not to take any food or drinks from other passengers. There is a special plant based drug (can't remember the name) that robbers can use on you to make you do whatever they want and then you won't remember what happened.

Regarding luggage, every bus has a luggage compartment, but of course, take your valuables with you and don't travel by cheap buses where your stuff is more likely to be stolen.

If you try to save money, it may be a good idea to travel less but get plane tickets instead of buses from longer trips.
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Quote: (09-10-2016 11:18 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

There is a special plant based drug (can't remember the name) that robbers can use on you to make you do whatever they want and then you won't remember what happened.

It is called Scopolamine a.k.a. "Devil's Breath." Aside from mind-control, it can also cause permanent psychiatric damage. Scary stuff.

Apparently, it is now being smuggled into Europe where criminals blow the powder into their victims' faces.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...THING.html
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#85

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I lived in a van for several years traveling around the USA. Basically follower the weather. I thought I had my possessions down until I started going international with carryon only.

My advice would be to get us residency in a state with no income tax like Florida and have a retired family members address there. If you have a friend/relatives bedroom to go back to occasionally or in emergency that takes a lot of pressure off.

One huge advantage of this lifestyle is being able to travel places for an extended period and during the best weather. That balances out the stress of travel big time. It's been 9 years of travel for me.
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Quote: (07-12-2016 04:39 PM)bumborass Wrote:  

I've been learning Italian for some years, so I've been looking at Malta (I know they speak English, but I hear Italian is a language some people know out there)

Malta just came out as the Number 2 place for satisfaction of expats on Internations' poll of its members. Lot of remote workers from the EU go there. Low taxes and nice lifestyle apparently.
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Quote: (09-11-2016 12:02 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2016 11:18 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

There is a special plant based drug (can't remember the name) that robbers can use on you to make you do whatever they want and then you won't remember what happened.

It is called Scopolamine a.k.a. "Devil's Breath." Aside from mind-control, it can also cause permanent psychiatric damage. Scary stuff.

Apparently, it is now being smuggled into Europe where criminals blow the powder into their victims' faces.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...THING.html
I can attest that it works well. It fucked up my last vacation. I still owe a hospital in Bogota money for an ambulance ride and a night in the ER. But fuck em.
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I hit the road in 2011 and really don't have an urge yet to go back to the states and doubt I ever will do so. My decision was easier in that I no longer had a tight social circle. San Francisco is a rather transient place for people who are a little unconventional, which is the type I sync up with the best. All my friends had moved elsewhere and I wasn't clicking with the new arrivals in town or the women (worse women I've ever met) so I decided to make lemonade out of lemons and pursue a long-term goal of exploring the world beyond my meager vacation time. I've lived in 4 countries since then and traveled to many more. One of the best things I've done.

i've noticed that the pure nomad lifestyle seems to work best for young (20's to early 30's) singles or couples and older retired or semi-retired couples. It is harder to make friends as an older man when you move around in most locations. In-between those ages, most expats seem to either be moving around due to job assignments or plant themselves in a base country and settle down with the main difference from life back home is upgrading the woman in your life.

I find few long-term nomads. Most seem to do the nomad lifestyle for a period of years then pick a base they live in for 6 to 9 months a year. The lifestyles of the ones who are retired and stay in one location 12 months a year seem really boring to me.

I used to love collecting art deco lighting, Persian carpets and paintings by local artists. Had a lot of clothes and nice furniture. I put a few things in storage at a friend's house but overall found getting rid of stuff to be a very liberating experience. I haven't yet had the urge to get into having stuff again. If anything, I have more of an urge to live as simple of a life as possible.

I was living and working one year at a time in countries then moving on. I found 6 months was the right amount of time. 1 year was usually too long. I got burned out on finding new apartments and hunting for and buying the same crap over and over that I decided to take a break and am on my 3rd year in Taiwan. However, I just did 6 weeks in southern and central Europe with airbnb and realize now that it is far easier to life the nomad lifestyle than even a few years ago. So, I'm getting ready to hit the road in 2017 again.

I am going to start an online business but when I tried that in Thailand I got bored and wanted to be out and about around people more. Now with co-working spaces being common that problem seems to be gone.
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Quote: (09-11-2016 09:31 PM)TheBoom Wrote:  

Quote: (07-12-2016 04:39 PM)bumborass Wrote:  

I've been learning Italian for some years, so I've been looking at Malta (I know they speak English, but I hear Italian is a language some people know out there)

Malta just came out as the Number 2 place for satisfaction of expats on Internations' poll of its members. Lot of remote workers from the EU go there. Low taxes and nice lifestyle apparently.

My brother will be moving to Malta for work in a month or so. Apparently English is the business language on Malta. With the sunshine, high turn over of tourists, and with low cost of living compared to the UK, he will no doubt have a ball.
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I've been on the road for over two years now. An lived in 12 different countries... spent the most time in Kiev (7 months.) Usually I move to a new country every month with a few rare exceptions (Ukraine, Serbia, Peru, Philippines) It's certainly a interesting lifestyle. It has its pros and cons just like everything else in life. The thing that makes the biggest difference on how much I enjoy a country or not isnt the girls... its the dudes (no homo) Fortunately being a part of the RVF forum I have been able to meet up with lots of awesome like minded guys whilst I'm in random countries all over the world. The times I have been in countries where I didn't have bros around to bullshit with (you just can't talk with girls about the same things you talk with your bros about) I didn't enjoy as much as the times I had a solid crew of homies to bullshit with,go out an game, grab some food, go to the gym, ect ect.

One thing is for sure... I need to stick with my theme of "endless summer" I was traveling where it was always warm to avoid winter for the first year and a half of my trip. Then things were going so well in Ukraine I thought I would just buy some warm clothes and tough out a little winter weather....WRONG, that shit is not for me. I came down to Albania just to go off the beaten path a bit an cause google told me Albania was in the mid to high 50's all winter...WRONG, just my luck Albania is having one of the coldest winters they have had in over 5 years. I will head back to South America very soon to get back to sun days and tan ladies.

For some reason I have the urge to go back to America this summer and check out Colorado (LINUX does not approve I imagine) I like nature and wilderness and such an I have been mainly living in capitol cities for the past two years. I'd like to go to Colorado and just detox out in nature for awhile.... even though thats certainly possible to do places other then Murica. We shall see what happens with that. I'm excited to check out Costa Rica once I leave Peru and maybe that will curb my desires to head back to Murica for the summer.

Let's make 2017 the best year yet gents.

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Quote: (01-17-2017 10:14 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

I like nature and wilderness and such an I have been mainly living in capitol cities for the past two years. I'd like to go to Colorado and just detox out in nature for awhile.... even though thats certainly possible to do places other then Murica.

I wholeheartedly agree with seeking perpetual summer and with leaving europe these days as it is bloody cold (it might snow tomorrow in Valencia of all places!) but you shouldnt underestimate at all the wild beauty of Europe,specially western Europe.
There's plenty of mountains forests and even bays void of human population (hippies don't count as population and/or humans) that are breath taking sights to behold!

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I believe that everyone needs to find balance on what they like and what they need in life. If one likes to travel and bang girls all over the world, but after a while starts to get depressed or whatever, he can always go back to near his family, friends, spend 3-4 months, and then hit the road again. At least that's what I plan to do. Things just get bored here where I live, and I just need to meet new people and do new stuff. Plus, for me it's good to be back at home (Brazil), where things are cheaper, so I can save a little bit.

I have a business online right now, so I can manage everything from any part of the world. Personally I'll never adapt going to an office everyday. I did have a corporate job in one the biggest bank in the world, felt great getting that job, but guess what? After 5 months I quitted. I just got fucking depressed. I don't know how people do that every day. Even if my business dies along the road, and I have to get a job... 100% sure that this will be a remote job, even if I need to keep looking for months (that's why it's good to have some savings). I need my freedom to do what I want, whenever I want. Life is too short to be locked in a room.

For the ones feeling unproductive, try setting up a business online, or even getting a job that allows you to work remotely, this will kinda build a routine for you. Why would you feel unproductive if you are actually working? This is mostly the digital nomad type of life.

But it's like someone said before, people are different, so you should do what you feel it's right for you [Image: smile.gif]
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