Quote: (07-24-2016 02:45 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:
Quote: (07-23-2016 11:48 AM)Veloce Wrote:
Quote: (07-23-2016 03:45 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:
I just ordered some sea salt, 16oz mason jars, 4oz mason jars to hold the floaters down, and a cheesecloth. I'm going to try and ferment some cabbage (it's about the only produce I can buy). I tried it once before but it didn't turn out right. I think I used too much salt. I also kept it in the fridge, maybe I need to use less salt and keep it out of the fridge for a while.
When salting your brine, just do it to taste. I never use a recipe. Think about how salty you like a steak or a burger; make your brine that salty.
And yes, in order to get fermentation going, you need to leave it out at room temperature. Could take 3 days, could take a week. Your cabbage needs to be submerged. It needs air, but something to keep flies from laying eggs. Either a kitchen towel or some cheesecloth secured in place with a rubber band. When your cabbage is clearly fermenting (bubbles form, gets cloudy, tastes funky) then you can transfer to a fridge.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to trying it again, I definitely over did it with the salt. I'll leave it out next time before putting it in the fridge. Do you have a preference of green cabbage vs red cabbage? I used to never eat cabbage, and now it's one of my main staples. I want to try fermenting carrots too. I went down to pick some up some carrots and cabbage to be ready when the jars show up but there was no produce. Oh well maybe I'll try in a week or two.
What are your thoughts on fermenting fruit? Like blueberries? (not for alcohol)
Carrots have been the surprise hit out of all my fermented veggies. I highly recommend them and I'm due to start another batch.
Green vs red cabbage doesn't matter, you could mix them and do both in the same batch, but it'll all eventually turn the same color (pink). Fermenting vegetables slowly leaches the pigment from them, so something that was dark green will turn light green, anything red or purple will turn pink. I fermented red radishes (super funky) and they're now pink.
Fermenting fruit will invariably convert sugar to alcohol and most likely will develop some vinegar. Ethanol (alcohol) plus oxygen will attract what's called acetobacter, or bacteria whose byproduct is acetic acid. To counteract acetobacter you need to close access to oxygen, either by transferring your ferment into a narrow container (like a wine bottle) or use an air lock, which you can buy for 4-5 bucks. Another issue is mold; if you're fermenting in an open air container that contains sugar you will attract bad molds. To counteract this you need to stir several times for the first few days and then once per day for another few days. Eventually after 7-10 days the yeasts *should* prevent bad molds from forming. You can then enjoy lightly fermented, lightly alcoholic fruit. You can ferment your fruit in a sugar solution (say 2 cups sugar per gallon), sweetness is totally adjustable to your taste, and drink it like a lightly fermented punch, or air lock it and ferment it further for a fruit wine.
Or you can ferment green fruit in salt brine just like you would cabbage. You can pickle green strawberries, green tomatoes, unripe peaches, green apples. It's super easy, very uncommon but very delicious. Pair pickled green strawberries with cheese or a very rich meat course for some next level shit.