[Screwston]

Miami porn star jailed, but not over porn

A Miami man who has starred in numerous adult films told police he planned to make a Santeria offering of 22 goats, chickens and other fowl caged inside a van.



BY DANIEL CHANG
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His nickname is The Monster. And if you don’t know why, then you probably haven’t seen his body of work.

Raul Armenteros is a prolific actor for adult films, many of them produced by the Miami-based Internet giant Bang Bros.com Productions, which has helped solidify South Florida as a pornographer’s paradise.

But while Armenteros, who also uses the screen name Ramon, is used to baring all in movies, most fans probably did not know that the star of Ramonator I and its sequel, Ramonator II, is also a spiritual man.

Neither did Miami police know when they responded to a call of unusual noises emanating from a van, with the engine off and the windows rolled up, parked in the middle of a lot near Northwest Seventh Street and 37th Avenue on July 11.

It was the middle of the day, and temperatures had reached 90 degrees.

Inside the van, Officer Andres Dominguez reported finding eight roosters, four guinea hens, four pigeons, four goats and one duck.

“I noticed the four goats tied up inside plastic bags,’’ Dominguez wrote in a criminal complaint. “As I opened one of the bags, it was noted that one of the goats had passed. ... All the animals in the van appeared to be in distress and lacking of water.’’

As Dominguez waited for animal control to respond and recover the menagerie, Armenteros, 46, and another man, James Arroyo, 44, walked up to the van. Both men claimed ownership of the animals, Dominguez reported.

Armenteros and Arroyo were arrested and charged with 22 counts of felony animal cruelty after telling Dominguez that they planned to make a Santeria ritual “offering’’ of the animals, reported WFOR-CBS 4.

He spent 10 days in jail, unable to post a $110,000 bond. Finally, on Thursday, Armenteros was released under house arrest, according to his case docket. He is scheduled for an arraignment hearing on Aug. 1 before Miami-Dade Judge Leon Firtel.

Despite his many film appearances, Armenteros did not have the money to hire an attorney and requested a public defender. He could not be reached for comment Friday, and his appointed attorney, Assistant Public Defender Luisa Marques Dos Santos did not return a phone message.

While Armenteros’ arrest report makes no mention of his notoriety as an adult film star, word spread quickly among websites such as TMZ.com after his mug shot was released.

According to the Internet Adult Film Database, a website with reviews of pornographic films and actors, Armenteros has yet another stage name: Roberto. Biographical data indicates he is an Aquarius (born Feb. 2, 1965) and his height is 5-feet, 10-inches tall — though police report him being closer to 5-7 and weighing 135 pounds.

Armenteros started performing in adult films in 2004, according to iafd.com, and has 81 films to his credit, most with titles that cannot be printed here but suggest his prodigious physical talents.

He first rose to pornographic prominence as a star of Bang Bros.com Productions, including the Bang Bus movies, a “reality” series of adult films in which actors perform a variety of sex acts while riding in a van around picturesque Miami.

The series spawned a bevy of imitators that helped make South Florida a magnet for Internet porn production, as evidenced by the February uproar in Miami Beach after Miami-based outfit RealityKings.com filmed an adult movie, Island Adventure, on a publicly accessible island between the Venetian and MacArthur causeways — in the shadow of an obelisk memorial to Florida pioneer Henry Flagler.



http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/22/23...t-not.html

[MiXX]

Damn, Florida cannot seem to stay out of the spotlight this month...!!

MIxx

[Nonpareil]

1) Women
2) Animals
3) Men

...What is, the North American Hierarchy of Human Rights?

$110,000 bond for animal cruelty...don't get me wrong, animal cruelty is wrong, but fucking really!?

[kerouac]

(07-27-2011 06:34 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

1) Women
2) Animals
3) Men

...What is, the North American Hierarchy of Human Rights?

$110,000 bond for animal cruelty...don't get me wrong, animal cruelty is wrong, but fucking really!?

There's animal cruelty, and then there's fuckin animal cruelty!
"A Miami man who has starred in numerous adult films told police he planned to make a Santeria offering of 22 goats, chickens and other fowl caged inside a van."

22 fuckin goats, chickens, and other animals inside a fuckin van? Who is this guy? the Animal Dexter?

When someone's gonna do something that massive, of course the consequences will be big as well, but what more can you expect from The Monster™?

[FretDancer]

Now I'm convinced, Miami is fucking crazy.

[Excelsior]

(07-27-2011 08:44 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  

Now I'm convinced, Miami is fucking crazy.

Pornstars in general are a little out there.
This type of stuff isn't quite as rare as you may think it'd be.

[MiXX]

Well, at least now we all know you don't have to be a good looking guy to be a Porn Star in Miami...BOOOOMMM!!!

Mixx

[bengalltigerr]

Armenteros is insane. 22 damn goats?

[Chad Daring]

(07-27-2011 09:04 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Well, at least now we all know you don't have to be a good looking guy to be a Porn Star in Miami...BOOOOMMM!!!

Mixx

No just a dick like a pringles can

[Smitty]

This guy is a piece of shit.

[Kona]

(07-27-2011 08:28 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

There's animal cruelty, and then there's fuckin animal cruelty!

I'm with you there.

Do you think it's the same van they make the porn in?

Fighting dogs and chickens is one thing, and they went after Michael Vick for racial reasons but thank god for the justice system with this guy.

I say take the strongest charge you got and get this guy off the street. The nasty bastards riding around in a van full of dead animals.

Imagine all the wacked out shit this guy probably does that they haven't caught him doing.

You can hate cops and the justice system all you want but every now and then they do something right.

Aloha!

[Excelsior]

(12-03-2011 06:26 PM)amenrency Wrote:  

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[Samseau]

(07-27-2011 06:34 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

1) Women
2) Animals
3) Men

...What is, the North American Hierarchy of Human Rights?

$110,000 bond for animal cruelty...don't get me wrong, animal cruelty is wrong, but fucking really!?

I'm with you. This is crazy. Who gives a shit about goats? We eat them and milk them, who cares if one guy wants to sacrifice them?

Animal rights are bullshit.

[Arado]

(12-03-2011 07:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I'm with you. This is crazy. Who gives a shit about goats? We eat them and milk them, who cares if one guy wants to sacrifice them?
Animal rights are bullshit.

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans? Can you not apply the same standard to humans and say that people with less mental capacity deserve less rights than humans with higher capacity? Once we know how much genetics affects intelligence, it will be harder to justify abrogating animal rights when we continue to assert that all humans deserve the same rights.

[Excelsior]

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans?

Personhood.

Most animals are simply not self-aware, not self-reflective, have no true notion of past/future, no concept of rights/duties/morality, or any of the other things that make a human a person, and not just another animal. They are also incapable of understanding or articulating any of these concepts-they operate on instinct.

A person is distinguished by high intellect, self-awareness, self-reflectiveness (the ability to rationally consider his/her actions within the greater context of the world around them), belief in morality/duty (beliefs that make civilization of any kind possible) and the ability to transcend mere instinct (at times even going against it due to aforementioned belief in morality/duty). A person can also articulate and understand all of these concepts.

Humans are the only creatures on Earth that consistently meet the definition of personhood. One could argue that some outliers within the human populace (ex: fetuses and some of those who suffer from mental retardation) do not meet the definition of personhood, but their intricate association with humanity (fetuses and even embryos become persons and are essential portions of any person's life cycle and even the mentally deficient are human and carry traces of human personhood lacking in 99% of animals, with the IQs [though low by human standards] to prove it) causes them to be treated as persons in most cases anyway.

The only animals that really should be considered to have reached a stage even remotely close to personhood are elephants, cetaceans (whales, dolphins, porpoises) and some great apes (like our closest cousins, chimpanzees) due to the uniquely advanced intricacies of their social structures and high intelligence.

[Gmac]

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 07:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I'm with you. This is crazy. Who gives a shit about goats? We eat them and milk them, who cares if one guy wants to sacrifice them?
Animal rights are bullshit.

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans? Can you not apply the same standard to humans and say that people with less mental capacity deserve less rights than humans with higher capacity? Once we know how much genetics affects intelligence, it will be harder to justify abrogating animal rights when we continue to assert that all humans deserve the same rights.

I don't give a flying fuck about animals. We eat them. Unless it's someone's pet, it's fair game.

[Timoteo]

(12-04-2011 12:48 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 07:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I'm with you. This is crazy. Who gives a shit about goats? We eat them and milk them, who cares if one guy wants to sacrifice them?
Animal rights are bullshit.

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans? Can you not apply the same standard to humans and say that people with less mental capacity deserve less rights than humans with higher capacity? Once we know how much genetics affects intelligence, it will be harder to justify abrogating animal rights when we continue to assert that all humans deserve the same rights.

I don't give a flying fuck about animals. We eat them. Unless it's someone's pet, it's fair game.

The Michael Vick case really brought so much of this to the surface. It gave the PETA freaks another platform to get themselves in the papers and on the news. Yes, what Vick and his boys did was kind of sick, but there are backwoods redneck types that are fighting dogs RIGHT NOW. In fact, southern states have special law enforcement units dedicated to dogfighting. All they do is patrol the woods looking for dog-fighting camps. But yet Michael Vick, because he's a famous athlete, get to be the face of dogfighting? PLEASE. It's incredible how SO MUCH PASSION from the public was directed at him and this case, because of some dogs, yet where is all of this when certain human beings die horribly? You hear people say they can NEVER forgive Vick, that all he'll ever be is a dog killer. Whatever. People also fail to acknowledge that Vick had PET dogs too, dogs that were always with him, even at the Falcons' facility, and played with his children. Vick did his time (and trust me...he didn't do time because of animal cruelty. The government went after him because he funded a GAMBLING enterprise), so I care more about Vick as a human being than I do about some dead dogs. I've had pets my whole life. My mom has a couple of cute dogs right now that I play with. Your pets become part of your family. I get it. But I'll never care more about animals than I do about another human.

It's also odd how this kind of passion isn't raised for the killing of other animals. Like thoroughbred horses. The glue factory isn't a myth. When a horse doesn't win, its brutally slaughtered. It's against the law to slaughter horses in the US, so the companies that buy the horses truck them to Mexico, where they're auctioned off and subsequently slaughtered for meat. And they aren't put down humanely either. "Real Sports" did a piece on this, and had graphic footage. One methods was to simply shoot it in the head with a shotgun. Another was for a guy to attempt to sever the spinal cord, behind the neck, with a knife. Since a horse has a long neck and is moving around a lot, the guy kept stabbing it but missing the spine. Finally he hit the mark and the horse dropped. It's then strung up and its throat slit while still alive, to bleed out. Why aren't people up in arms about this? Why isn't PETA picketing race tracks nationwide? There isn't enough press attention in it, that's why. As brutal as that is, every part of that horse gets consumed or used in some way. The same with bulls killed in bullfights. Folks are squeamish about how the animal died - for sport and entertainment. But EVERY part of that bull is eaten and used. In Mexico, the food stands right outside the arena are cooking and selling the bull that died the day before, from the neck to the nuts (criadillas). In Peru, they eat guinea pigs, which for us are cute little pets. In other parts of the world, dogs and cats are food. Don't get me wrong...I'm not ADVOCATING animal cruelty, but we can't be so selective.

I think part of the issue with this porn star is how and where he was keeping these animals. There are certain laws about how or if you can keep livestock animals in city limits. There are health laws regarding the slaughter of animals (it has to be done in a facility meets certain standards). So be it for santeria (which I'm sure law enforcement wasn't crazy about) or for food, keeping them in a hot van and subsequently slitting their throats wasn't lawful. Should his bond have been set THAT high for it? Nah. That was because of their disapproval of what he does for a living, and WHY he was going to kill these animals.

[Screwston]

you sure it's only rednecks fighting dogs Timoteo? shit is a lot more popular than you think.

[Arado]

(12-04-2011 12:28 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans?

A person is distinguished by high intellect, self-awareness, self-reflectiveness (the ability to rationally consider his/her actions within the greater context of the world around them), belief in morality/duty (beliefs that make civilization of any kind possible) and the ability to transcend mere instinct (at times even going against it due to aforementioned belief in morality/duty). A person can also articulate and understand all of these concepts.

So if someone is less able to do this (and I'd say this doesn't apply to a 1% but actually a large fraction of humanity) does it mean they deserve less rights?

[Timoteo]

(12-04-2011 02:48 PM)houston Wrote:  

you sure it's only rednecks fighting dogs Timoteo? shit is a lot more popular than you think.

I didn't say it was ONLY rednecks. It's a regional thing, a southern thing and a south of the border thing. It's in little pockets in other states, but it gets brought there by someone that comes from that culture. My objection was making Vick the face of it because he's famous, when this shit has gone on for generations with dogs, cocks, etc. Roy Jones, the boxer, has a farm in Pensacola where he raises and trains fighting cocks, but because it's chickens, no one makes a big deal of it.

[Excelsior]

(12-04-2011 02:59 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

So if someone is less able to do this (and I'd say this doesn't apply to a 1% but actually a large fraction of humanity) does it mean they deserve less rights?

(12-04-2011 12:28 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Humans are the only creatures on Earth that consistently meet the definition of personhood. One could argue that some outliers within the human populace (ex: fetuses and some of those who suffer from mental retardation) do not meet the definition of personhood, but their intricate association with humanity (fetuses and even embryos become persons and are essential portions of any person's life cycle and even the mentally deficient are human and carry traces of human personhood lacking in 99% of animals, with the IQs [though low by human standards] to prove it) causes them to be treated as persons in most cases anyway.

Our lowest common denominators intellectually are closer to personhood than any animal. There is no comparison to be made, which is why it is not often done.

[kosko]

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 07:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I'm with you. This is crazy. Who gives a shit about goats? We eat them and milk them, who cares if one guy wants to sacrifice them?
Animal rights are bullshit.

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans? Can you not apply the same standard to humans and say that people with less mental capacity deserve less rights than humans with higher capacity? Once we know how much genetics affects intelligence, it will be harder to justify abrogating animal rights when we continue to assert that all humans deserve the same rights.

Easy on that nonsense buddy. Until humans can get back to collectively respecting their fellow men then I don;t give a fuck about goats. Because you know why? ... Those goats ain't give a fuck about you either.

Animal rights movement is bullshit. Why should an American Dog have more rights and protections then a child in Somalia?

Humans are so out to lunch with nature, that groups like PETA, etc actually make me angry.. they don't get it. In more traditional society animals are protected and treated with mutual care. A sacrifice was done only when needed for food or materials with the animal being respected in each process.

The animal kingdom works as a mutual beneficial relationship. Humans need food and materials but we are supposed to do it any a way that causes the least amount of harm and gives back to the earth. Animal rights activists don't get that part, they view humans as an evil but don't accept we are as much as part of the cycle of life as their precious goldfish and ants.

Let them go spend a month in a forest and see if Jilly the mother bear gives to fucks if they have compassion for her, if shes hungry.. game over.

[Samseau]

(12-04-2011 12:28 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(12-03-2011 09:39 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

What is the philosophical justification for animals having less rights then humans?

Personhood.

Most animals are simply not self-aware, not self-reflective, have no true notion of past/future, no concept of rights/duties/morality, or any of the other things that make a human a person, and not just another animal. They are also incapable of understanding or articulating any of these concepts-they operate on instinct.

A person is distinguished by high intellect, self-awareness, self-reflectiveness (the ability to rationally consider his/her actions within the greater context of the world around them), belief in morality/duty (beliefs that make civilization of any kind possible) and the ability to transcend mere instinct (at times even going against it due to aforementioned belief in morality/duty). A person can also articulate and understand all of these concepts.

Humans are the only creatures on Earth that consistently meet the definition of personhood. One could argue that some outliers within the human populace (ex: fetuses and some of those who suffer from mental retardation) do not meet the definition of personhood, but their intricate association with humanity (fetuses and even embryos become persons and are essential portions of any person's life cycle and even the mentally deficient are human and carry traces of human personhood lacking in 99% of animals, with the IQs [though low by human standards] to prove it) causes them to be treated as persons in most cases anyway.

The only animals that really should be considered to have reached a stage even remotely close to personhood are elephants, cetaceans (whales, dolphins, porpoises) and some great apes (like our closest cousins, chimpanzees) due to the uniquely advanced intricacies of their social structures and high intelligence.

Good job. I would add that people possess rights because they are the only creatures with reason, which gives us our sentience and unique problem solving abilities.

[Timoteo]

When PETA freaks refrain from using ANYTHING that comes from an animal, I'll give them respect. They like to target meat eaters and fur coat wearers (and they feel justified in running up to someone in a fur and throwing paint on them), but they wear OTHER fabrics that come from animals. Their shoes and sneakers come from animals. They play with balls that are covered with animal hides. Are they giving up all of those things too. Sure, celebs pose naked in ads for PETA, but the rest of the time they're wearing clothes. And pretty expensive ones too. I don't agree with traps that maim animals and cause them great pain. I don't think endangered species should be hunted for their fur. At the same time, some of these coats come from animals in the rodent family, and are raised on farms for that purpose, no different than animals that we raise for food. Since we're too good to eat those little animals, like they do in other parts of the world, is it so wrong to raise them for their little coats? When PETA members start wearing only hemp clothing, and wooden clogs or purely synthetic materials, they can lecture the rest of us. I still won't agree, but I'll give them more credibility.

[jergens007]

lol... wow.. pretty crazy in miami..... thanks for the post!!