I went to an outdoor EDM music festival recently, and found it to be particularly difficult to game.
There are two main areas. The campground was 25 minutes from the festival, and the music venue itself.
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I noticed most girls went there with their boyfriends. Seemed like 70% were with a boyfriend. If you’re a girl, there’s a good chance that if you’re going to go to a festival with your boyfriend, and if you don’t have a boyfriend, you probably won’t go. Which might explain why there were…
…A lot more dudes at the festival, probably 2:1 ratio. Not that any of them had game. I saw one guy at the food stands near the campground, kneeling in front of chicks and fake proposing, as an opener. Someone teach these men game.
There were very few girls who were walking alone at the venue. The couple that I did approach, I noticed there were two types. They were either in a rush searching for a friend, or wandering aimlessly in search for a friend. Neither was in the mood to chat for very long.
While I went at it alone, which is how I usually operate in nightgame and daygame, I think music festivals might be the one venue where it pays to have a wingman.
I couldn't approach a two-set solo, chat with them a bit, and invite them to a party at my campground later. If I had a wingman, this could be a more viable offer, but on my own, it wasn’t realistically an option.
In retrospect, I might have had more success asking them what they were going to do later, and tried to arrange to meet them at THEIR campsite. But we all know how difficult it can be to meet up with someone later that same night after they’ve gone off, back to their friends.
Girls at the festival without boyfriends were in pairs, or threes. I think these would be the best targets to approach. And I did talk to a couple two-sets. But when it’s just you, talking to a two set, it can be extremely difficult to keep the conversation going.
At the end of the day, the most difficult part about an outdoor music festival is logistics.
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The campground was a 25 minute walk from the stages.
Once you left the music venue, you couldn’t re-enter, so people didn’t leave until the end of the night.
After the sun went down, and the headliners came on, I made a ton of approaches at the main stage both nights, until I found a girl who was down to dance, and we danced dirty, but getting them back to the campground was extremely difficult.
Because of the crowds, drugs, and poor cell phone reception, the friends of these girls were extremely sensitive to a guy moving their friend to another spot. The cockblockers insisted they keep their friend in sight at all times. In other words, extreme cockblocking.
Also, like club game, it’s very hard to have a conversation unless you stepped outside. Because it was an outdoor show, there wasn’t really anywhere to go unless you walked way off, which again, most friends wouldn’t work for.
I was mostly there to see the music anyway, as were the girls, so it was hard to approach in the middle of a DJs set. But because it was outdoor, it wasn't as loud as a club, so you could actually have a conversation during a DJ's set.
The time between sets was very short usually like a minute. In a live music show you might have a good chance to talk to a handful of girls in the 15 minutes while the other band gets set up.
Gaming in the campground might have worked better, but nobody was really there until after 1 am, and again, everyone was in large mixed sets, it was dark out. I myself was pretty tired myself after a full day of partying, but if I had more energy, I could see this being a more viable option to approach sets of people outside their tents hanging out.
If I were to game again at an outdoor music festival, having at least one other person with me (could be a girl or a guy), and approaching two and three sets during the day at the music venue. It’d be possible to invite them to a party you’re having at your campsite later, and collect numbers. Then most of them will flake, but maybe one or two would be down to come to your campsite, and there you’d have a chance to build comfort, attraction, and seal the deal. Maybe someone else has experience with this succeeding, because that’s how I’d do it if I were to go to something similar again.
Anyway, this wasn’t meant to be a data sheet, it was more post your experiences here.
There were a lot of very cute girls, young girls who like to party, but I couldn’t quite figure out how to crack this one.
There are two main areas. The campground was 25 minutes from the festival, and the music venue itself.
--
I noticed most girls went there with their boyfriends. Seemed like 70% were with a boyfriend. If you’re a girl, there’s a good chance that if you’re going to go to a festival with your boyfriend, and if you don’t have a boyfriend, you probably won’t go. Which might explain why there were…
…A lot more dudes at the festival, probably 2:1 ratio. Not that any of them had game. I saw one guy at the food stands near the campground, kneeling in front of chicks and fake proposing, as an opener. Someone teach these men game.
There were very few girls who were walking alone at the venue. The couple that I did approach, I noticed there were two types. They were either in a rush searching for a friend, or wandering aimlessly in search for a friend. Neither was in the mood to chat for very long.
While I went at it alone, which is how I usually operate in nightgame and daygame, I think music festivals might be the one venue where it pays to have a wingman.
I couldn't approach a two-set solo, chat with them a bit, and invite them to a party at my campground later. If I had a wingman, this could be a more viable offer, but on my own, it wasn’t realistically an option.
In retrospect, I might have had more success asking them what they were going to do later, and tried to arrange to meet them at THEIR campsite. But we all know how difficult it can be to meet up with someone later that same night after they’ve gone off, back to their friends.
Girls at the festival without boyfriends were in pairs, or threes. I think these would be the best targets to approach. And I did talk to a couple two-sets. But when it’s just you, talking to a two set, it can be extremely difficult to keep the conversation going.
At the end of the day, the most difficult part about an outdoor music festival is logistics.
--
The campground was a 25 minute walk from the stages.
Once you left the music venue, you couldn’t re-enter, so people didn’t leave until the end of the night.
After the sun went down, and the headliners came on, I made a ton of approaches at the main stage both nights, until I found a girl who was down to dance, and we danced dirty, but getting them back to the campground was extremely difficult.
Because of the crowds, drugs, and poor cell phone reception, the friends of these girls were extremely sensitive to a guy moving their friend to another spot. The cockblockers insisted they keep their friend in sight at all times. In other words, extreme cockblocking.
Also, like club game, it’s very hard to have a conversation unless you stepped outside. Because it was an outdoor show, there wasn’t really anywhere to go unless you walked way off, which again, most friends wouldn’t work for.
I was mostly there to see the music anyway, as were the girls, so it was hard to approach in the middle of a DJs set. But because it was outdoor, it wasn't as loud as a club, so you could actually have a conversation during a DJ's set.
The time between sets was very short usually like a minute. In a live music show you might have a good chance to talk to a handful of girls in the 15 minutes while the other band gets set up.
Gaming in the campground might have worked better, but nobody was really there until after 1 am, and again, everyone was in large mixed sets, it was dark out. I myself was pretty tired myself after a full day of partying, but if I had more energy, I could see this being a more viable option to approach sets of people outside their tents hanging out.
If I were to game again at an outdoor music festival, having at least one other person with me (could be a girl or a guy), and approaching two and three sets during the day at the music venue. It’d be possible to invite them to a party you’re having at your campsite later, and collect numbers. Then most of them will flake, but maybe one or two would be down to come to your campsite, and there you’d have a chance to build comfort, attraction, and seal the deal. Maybe someone else has experience with this succeeding, because that’s how I’d do it if I were to go to something similar again.
Anyway, this wasn’t meant to be a data sheet, it was more post your experiences here.
There were a lot of very cute girls, young girls who like to party, but I couldn’t quite figure out how to crack this one.