[Giacomo Casanova]

(06-09-2016 02:26 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  

Ok so this isn't going to be one of those generic 'which country has the most 9/10s open to foreigners' threads.

Basically I have been in Poland for almost 2 years and have got a grand total of 3 lays (3 from online - 1 with a 7, 1 with a 4, 1 from cold approach - a 6). And this is after putting in HUGE amounts of efforts (i.e 600+ cold approaches).

I'm a 5'7 white male from the UK who is definitely not blessed in the looks department (though I have decent style and a top 99.9% body i.e. jacked).

I am fortunate to be in the position where I could live in any country in Europe (that don't have visa restrictions for Brits anyway) and I am strongly thinking of moving to a different city. It would be 1 month to start to get an overall feel and see how the culture vibes with me as well as the girls (ease of integrating etc).

The question is where to go? Sometimes I get the feeling that despite my terrible results (I like to think my game is so-so but not terrible) Poland is probably the best country in Europe for getting girls. Bear in mind I'm not shooting for the 8,9,10s that you can only really get through social circle but 6,7s...

I prefer women who are open-minded, not rude and amenable to European foreigners. I have been to Kiev and Minsk but in both countries the cold approach feedback was unbelievably brutal.

What about the big cities in Romania, Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria etc?? If I struggle in Poland would I be a fool to think I'd do any better in other countries in Europe?

These are absolutely terrible numbers.
It is true that some cities in Poland are considerably more difficult than in West, but still there is something which is not going good. Maybe it it is about the look, for instance blond guys don't seem to do well in Poland. I would change country instantly, trying for example the direct competitor, Ukraine. I don't understand why you mentioned negatively day game in Kiev. Over there it is a gold mine, if you have a solid game. Girls are a lot more receptive and willing to go out on a date with you than in Poland. According to my experience, in day game you should approach x10 in Poland than in Kiev to obtain a date with a girl on the same level of beauty. But also Romania for example, staying in the UE, is a lot easier.

[Buddydowrongright2]

I really enjoyed Budapest, Poznan, Ljubljana, and Prague. Regret never going to Zagreb or the Baltics.

[Adrenaline]

Interesting thread....

For someone who mainly relies on his looks doing night game (I have game, but it's similar to Vinny Chase from Entourage- Very laid back and passive), would being 5'11 in height instantly eliminate the possibility of getting any great deal of attention in bars/clubs in cities like Krakow, Budapest, Belgrade, Zagreb, Prague and Bucharest, seem Eastern European men are usually much taller? I get a lot of attention in the west but the guys generally aren't that much taller than me where I'm from, so I'm wondering if I'm doing myself a disservice going places where being shorter than a lot of men might take my apperarance down a point or two.

[TwinTurbo]

I am "tall" (6' ft) mediterranean look - decent looking/stylish but in places like Serbia and Croatia that was only average and certainly not impressive, and it was still quite hard to pull from IRL or Tinder. More so than in other parts of Europe IMO.

After spending 2 months there though I started to figure it out - the main issues there being that even the big cities are still small (specially in the spots that one would want to hang out in) and people know each other from years and years. Social circle was strong, and having local friends was the only game changer.

My fav city for gaming is still Prague - you have the best of both worlds: ton of hot eastern european women, and ton of drunk/easy western european tourists. The city itself is amazing as well.

Other places to check out will be the Baltics countries if you are down for something more exotic.

[Merenguero]

I'm having way more trouble believing the one notch in two years from cold approach despite six hundred approaches in Poland part than I am with the top tiny fraction of a percent body part.

[Rossi]

(06-09-2016 02:26 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  

What about the big cities in Romania, Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria etc?? If I struggle in Poland would I be a fool to think I'd do any better in other countries in Europe?

I would go to Vilnius, if you don't mind the cold.

Cheap city, small enough to get to know around, safe, girls are out of the world. Tall, blonde, white. They love foreign guys, at least they love Italians. I went to clubs on Fridays and Saturdays almost every week there for 3 months and I got laid without even trying much.

I loved it a lot.

[Nowak]

(03-09-2017 09:59 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 02:26 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  

What about the big cities in Romania, Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria etc?? If I struggle in Poland would I be a fool to think I'd do any better in other countries in Europe?

I would go to Vilnius, if you don't mind the cold.

Cheap city, small enough to get to know around, safe, girls are out of the world. Tall, blonde, white. They love foreign guys, at least they love Italians. I went to clubs on Fridays and Saturdays almost every week there for 3 months and I got laid without even trying much.

I loved it a lot.

How did it compare to Tallin Estonia?

[Nowak]

(03-06-2017 09:22 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

Interesting thread....

For someone who mainly relies on his looks doing night game (I have game, but it's similar to Vinny Chase from Entourage- Very laid back and passive), would being 5'11 in height instantly eliminate the possibility of getting any great deal of attention in bars/clubs in cities like Krakow, Budapest, Belgrade, Zagreb, Prague and Bucharest, seem Eastern European men are usually much taller? I get a lot of attention in the west but the guys generally aren't that much taller than me where I'm from, so I'm wondering if I'm doing myself a disservice going places where being shorter than a lot of men might take my apperarance down a point or two.

You're fine dude.

If you are concerned about height I probably wouldn't recommend Zagreb or Belgrade over the others but even here you're fine.

[Nowak]

(03-07-2017 01:18 AM)TwinTurbo Wrote:  

I am "tall" (6' ft) mediterranean look - decent looking/stylish but in places like Serbia and Croatia that was only average and certainly not impressive, and it was still quite hard to pull from IRL or Tinder. More so than in other parts of Europe IMO.

After spending 2 months there though I started to figure it out - the main issues there being that even the big cities are still small (specially in the spots that one would want to hang out in) and people know each other from years and years. Social circle was strong, and having local friends was the only game changer.

My fav city for gaming is still Prague - you have the best of both worlds: ton of hot eastern european women, and ton of drunk/easy western european tourists. The city itself is amazing as well.

Other places to check out will be the Baltics countries if you are down for something more exotic.

That's been my strategy here, almost pure social circle game.

Did you find you were able to pull higher quality in the Baltics? You seem similar to me in complexion

[Rossi]

(03-10-2017 05:26 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

How did it compare to Tallin Estonia?

Tallinn is little colder and smaller than Vilnius. Lithuanian girls are hotter than Estonians as well. Plus, Estonia is little more pricey.

I'd prefer Vilnius over any city in the world if you're talking about girls. Maybe I was way too lucky there, I don't know.

There are 3 popular nightclubs there. I kept going every Friday and Sunday, all the bouncers and bartenders knew me at the end of the month. I was getting bottle of Absolut vodka, VIP service for €100 at clubs. It's around $650 in New York.

I literally didn't do much at clubs and still got laid. I don't know whats with Lithuanian girls and their love against Italian guys but I sure loved it.

[Nowak]

(03-10-2017 07:24 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:26 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

How did it compare to Tallin Estonia?

Tallinn is little colder and smaller than Vilnius. Lithuanian girls are hotter than Estonians as well. Plus, Estonia is little more pricey.

I'd prefer Vilnius over any city in the world if you're talking about girls. Maybe I was way too lucky there, I don't know.

There are 3 popular nightclubs there. I kept going every Friday and Sunday, all the bouncers and bartenders knew me at the end of the month. I was getting bottle of Absolut vodka, VIP service for €100 at clubs. It's around $650 in New York.

I literally didn't do much at clubs and still got laid. I don't know whats with Lithuanian girls and their love against Italian guys but I sure loved it.

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

[Rossi]

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

[Nowak]

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

Damn son , were you ever here in Beograd or Croatia? How do you feel about the Balkans with getting top tier quality?

[Dantes]

OP, I applaud your commitment to introspection and self-improvement. You have received some tough love in this thread. I hope you consider some of the solid suggestions you have received.

There is a flaw in your analysis. You are making assumptions about cities that you have not visited based on your Tinder matches. However, you report that Direct Daygame is your main method of meeting girls. If that is the case, you can throw your perceived Tinder receptiveness out the window. Direct Daygame is a completely different animal comparing it with Tinder. The only way to judge your success in a given city through Daygame is to get your boots on the ground and start approaching.

I advise that you stop projecting your future results in a given city and enjoy the experience of traveling and meeting girls. Remember, meeting girls should be fun. It doesn't have to be so serious. Get your boots on the ground and enjoy the ride.

Based on what you stated about yourself, your background and Game is best suited for Bucharest.

Good luck

[snacky20]

WTF 3 lays in poland in 2 years.
Height is definitively not the problem. Im 5'7 and get 3 lays in 2 weeks. My advantage is that I'm polish and obviously know the language but still 3 lays means thats something is wrong with you and its definitely not the height.

Im gonna be honest and say that if you have super ugly face simply do some plastic surgeries in Poland. In example nose job and chin job.

[Kid Twist]

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

So if I hit the Baltics later this year, Vilnius is a must, huh?

[ZAMSKI]

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

Man, those are exactly my type as well. I'm about to check it out in April. Can't wait to see what this place is all about.

[Rocha]

(03-13-2017 02:40 PM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

Man, those are exactly my type as well. I'm about to check it out in April. Can't wait to see what this place is all about.

Don't go in April or you will have a rude awakening, or at least choose wisely your timing. It's Easter (catholic) time, and it will be dead and empty.

[churros]

(03-11-2017 12:23 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

There is a flaw in your analysis. You are making assumptions about cities that you have not visited based on your Tinder matches. However, you report that Direct Daygame is your main method of meeting girls. If that is the case, you can throw your perceived Tinder receptiveness out the window. Direct Daygame is a completely different animal comparing it with Tinder. The only way to judge your success in a given city through Daygame is to get your boots on the ground and start approaching.

Holy shit OP, if looks are not your forte, there is no way you should be going direct. Don't scare the cat.

The guys who get away with this stuff need to make a very good impression, either with strong clown game or looks.

[Rossi]

(03-11-2017 11:48 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

Damn son , were you ever here in Beograd or Croatia? How do you feel about the Balkans with getting top tier quality?

No, I've never been in Croatia or Serbia. I've had a Romanian girlfriend 10 years ago and I went to Romania for a week in 2007 or 2008.

I prefer Lithuania over any city in the world.

[ZAMSKI]

(03-13-2017 08:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(03-13-2017 02:40 PM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

Man, those are exactly my type as well. I'm about to check it out in April. Can't wait to see what this place is all about.

Don't go in April or you will have a rude awakening, or at least choose wisely your timing. It's Easter (catholic) time, and it will be dead and empty.

Great advice Rocha. Thanks. Do you think going there after April 16 (easter day) will be alright? How long does the easter holiday last out there anyways?

[Rocha]

(03-15-2017 07:44 AM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  

(03-13-2017 08:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(03-13-2017 02:40 PM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 09:38 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 08:34 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

Did you bang any 8s and above? Thats what Im after ,I can get 7s anywhere easily

There are a lot of girls who are 8's and 9's. White, 1.75-80 cm, white, blonde, blue eyes. Thats what I love. I banged 14 girls in 2,5 months but of course, I rotated them a lot too.

Most were 8 or 9 and I banged one 10. She's known model in Lithuania and she has like 80k followers on instagram too and modeling for Calvin Klein.

Man, those are exactly my type as well. I'm about to check it out in April. Can't wait to see what this place is all about.

Don't go in April or you will have a rude awakening, or at least choose wisely your timing. It's Easter (catholic) time, and it will be dead and empty.

Great advice Rocha. Thanks. Do you think going there after April 16 (easter day) will be alright? How long does the easter holiday last out there anyways?

I think it is the two weeks leading to the Easter Sunday (16th April). After that will be fine. Just another note, if you are into nightlife, Vilnius is pretty dead on weekdays (like all of the Baltics) so if you go on monday 17 you will find this scenario, best option is to arrive just in time for the next weekend.

My personal view on Vilnius is that it is good, girls are good looking, it is a quiet capital...but you will see many foreigners, and local competition is fierce, guys are tall, good looking, dress reasonably well, and many hot girls are already "taken" since it is not a big city. I truly believe a good player can make a lot of damages on medium/long term, but short term success will not be easy.

[Rocha]

Double post. Deleted.

[Rossi]

I heard that in summer that city gets even emptier than usual because all people go to either countryside or vacationing in Europe. So, it's best to go before June since schools close in June.

[youngbuck]

(03-09-2017 09:59 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 02:26 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  

What about the big cities in Romania, Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria etc?? If I struggle in Poland would I be a fool to think I'd do any better in other countries in Europe?

I would go to Vilnius, if you don't mind the cold.

Cheap city, small enough to get to know around, safe, girls are out of the world. Tall, blonde, white. They love foreign guys, at least they love Italians. I went to clubs on Fridays and Saturdays almost every week there for 3 months and I got laid without even trying much.

I loved it a lot.

Personally I found Lithuanian girls to be quite cold, quite the opposite than Polish girls, so I got a few questions:
- how tall are you?
- what were the names of the clubs that you went to?
- what was your game technique? bottle service in every club?
- did you went with fellow italian wing-men?