[Excelsior]

(08-04-2011 12:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Theo, he was not rationalizing, he was merely making an anecdotal observation from his POV. Why is his conclusion any less valid than yours?

Indeed you do seem quite bitter as others have noted.

Honestly, I think we're just being trolled...and trolled somewhat well, actually.

Well played, troll theo. Your persistence is recognized.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 01:47 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 12:53 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Post pics or GTFOH!!!!

Why don't you? You contribute nothing.

Thats kind of funny because you haven't traveled many places and you have very limited experience with women in general. According to one of your posts you stated that you haven't even kissed a girl until about college. I wouldn't consider posting women that you consider 10's contributing to this forum. Considering the fact that I am Black man and you are a Black guy I thought that yourself and others would be appreciative of somebody giving you info on Black men's SMP value. Athalone, the idea of you getting a 8-10 quality/substantive white/asian/hispanic woman is farfetched and is highly unlikely for obvious reasons. I was not trying to offend any of you...just telling the truth. Most people understand this except for certain Black men.

[el mechanico]

(08-04-2011 02:12 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 01:47 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 12:53 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Post pics or GTFOH!!!!

Why don't you? You contribute nothing.

Thats kind of funny because you haven't traveled many places and you have very limited experience with women in general. According to one of your posts you stated that you haven't even kissed a girl until about college. I wouldn't consider posting women that you consider 10's contributing to this forum. Considering the fact that I am Black man and you are a Black guy I thought that yourself and others would be appreciative of somebody giving you info on Black men's SMP value. Athalone, the idea of you getting a 8-10 quality/substantive white/asian/hispanic woman is farfetched and is highly unlikely for obvious reasons. I was not trying to offend any of you...just telling the truth. Most people understand this except for certain Black men.

Athlone is obviously smart, goes to a good school and is Jamaican I believe. I can't see why he wouldn't be able to pull a hot asian ,white or latina..Really Theo?

[Excelsior]

(08-04-2011 02:12 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Thats kind of funny because you haven't traveled many places and you have very limited experience with women in general. According to one of your posts you stated that you haven't even kissed a girl until about college.

I was King of the Simps in high school. I wanted to change that-that's how I ended up here and on other sites reading about game and evo-psych.

As for "until about college", I've been in college for over two years now.

Do the math.

Quote:

I wouldn't consider posting women that you consider 10's contributing to this forum.

For you of all people to speak to me about value to the forum(or lack thereof)...

...the arrogance is astounding.

Quote:

Considering the fact that I am Black man and you are a Black guy I thought that yourself and others would be appreciative of somebody giving you info on Black men's SMP value.

You think I need you to tell me about my value?

Do you think anyone here needs to hear what you have to say?

You're sadly mistaken if you do.

Quote:

Athalone, the idea of you getting a 8-10 quality/substantive white/asian/hispanic woman is farfetched and is highly unlikely for obvious reasons. I was not trying to offend any of you...just telling the truth. Most people understand this except for certain Black men.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 02:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 02:12 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 01:47 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 12:53 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Post pics or GTFOH!!!!

Why don't you? You contribute nothing.

Thats kind of funny because you haven't traveled many places and you have very limited experience with women in general. According to one of your posts you stated that you haven't even kissed a girl until about college. I wouldn't consider posting women that you consider 10's contributing to this forum. Considering the fact that I am Black man and you are a Black guy I thought that yourself and others would be appreciative of somebody giving you info on Black men's SMP value. Athalone, the idea of you getting a 8-10 quality/substantive white/asian/hispanic woman is farfetched and is highly unlikely for obvious reasons. I was not trying to offend any of you...just telling the truth. Most people understand this except for certain Black men.

Athlone is obviously smart, goes to a good school and is Jamaican I believe. I can't see why he wouldn't be able to pull a hot asian ,white or latina..Really Theo?

Look el mechanico, most women desire to date and marry within their own race. Non Black women in aggregate are not looking to date/marry Black men (Roosh talked about this in a post on his website). The ones that do date Black men tend to be of lower quality, I'm talking 3-6 max and for the most part unwanted by the men within their race. How do I know this? Well because I have seen it all my life. A lot of the men in my family are married to non black women who are in the 3-6 range despite of being well off, reasonably attractive and having decent game. Athalone might become wealthy(not sure what he's studying but...) and will marry a white/asian/hispanic woman that is attractive but he will be the exception to the rule.

[Excelsior]

(08-04-2011 02:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Athlone is obviously smart, goes to a good school and is Jamaican I believe. I can't see why he wouldn't be able to pull a hot asian ,white or latina..Really Theo?

One more thing:

When I was in high school, I was a massive simp and a king-beta. I was a pudgy D-lineman/runningback with some talent but terribly low self esteem and a very nerdy, anti-social modus operendi. My life was books and weights.

And guess what? Even then I had girls. Plenty of them, white, black and asian(though mostly white). All 7s or above, save for one who I'd put at around a 4.

They threw themselves at me, offered to date me, gave me every IOI in the book, had their friends come and solicit me for them...and I blew it. I either couldn't recognize their signals or I just dropped the ball with my betatude.

This is how I know that theo is full of crap. I proved then that a slightly pudgy, anti-social teenaged black simp with zero self-esteem can pull cute white girls. My peers and teammates(all with fewer issues than me) did the same(they still do), and I do it now myself(outside of my college).

This guy is either delusional, or a troll. I'm betting on the latter.

[Theogreat]

Athalone,


I understand that your feeling some kind of way about what I wrote but it is what it is.

[Excelsior]

(08-04-2011 02:45 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Athalone,


I understand that your feeling some kind of way about what I wrote but it is what it is.

Keep on trollin'.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 02:44 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 02:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Athlone is obviously smart, goes to a good school and is Jamaican I believe. I can't see why he wouldn't be able to pull a hot asian ,white or latina..Really Theo?

One more thing:

When I was in high school, I was a massive simp and a king-beta. I was a pudgy D-lineman/runningback with some talent but terribly low self esteem and a very nerdy, anti-social modus operendi. My life was books and weights.

And guess what? Even then I had girls. Plenty of them, white, black and asian(though mostly white). All 7s or above, save for one who I'd put at around a 4.

They threw themselves at me, offered to date me, gave me every IOI in the book, had their friends come and solicit me for them...and I blew it. I either couldn't recognize their signals or I just dropped the ball with my betatude.

This is how I know that theo is full of crap. I proved then that a slightly pudgy, anti-social teenaged black simp with zero self-esteem can pull cute white girls. My peers and teammates(all with fewer issues than me) did the same(they still do), and I do it now myself (outside of my college).

This guy is either delusional, or a troll. I'm betting on the latter.

Athalone,

Lol!! I highly doubt that what your saying is the truth.Dude you are living in lala land if you think that white/hispanic/asian women are into seriously dating/marrying Black men.
Athalone, non Black women are not into you just like Black women aren't. I love how you are calling me a troll because I don't agree with your nonsense. There is a reason why the popular stereotype of Black men getting trash from other races exists because its the truth. You might be the exception to the rule but I highly doubt it. Oh and didn't you say that the white girls at your school are not into Black men, now your saying the opposite which one is it? I swear denial and rationalization is a bitch.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 02:51 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 02:45 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Athalone,


I understand that your feeling some kind of way about what I wrote but it is what it is.

Keep on trollin'.

Nah I think that I will stick to telling the truth and you could keep on telling yourself that white/hispanic/asian 7-10's are checking for Black men. Men lie, women lie, but number's don't lie.

[Excelsior]

(08-04-2011 02:54 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Oh and didn't you say that the white girls at your school are not into Black men, now your saying the opposite which one is it? I swear denial and rationalization is a bitch.

They can be attracted to black men(especially when their guard is down), though they usually won't let that out into the open. I've said this before. Its all about reputation-I've had several of them express blatant attraction, but unless shitfaced(and even then...) they will quickly rationalize it away as it is not socially acceptable here save for rare occasions.

Troll harder.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 03:02 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 02:54 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

Oh and didn't you say that the white girls at your school are not into Black men, now your saying the opposite which one is it? I swear denial and rationalization is a bitch.

They can be attracted to black men(especially when their guard is down), though they usually won't let that out into the open. I've said this before. Its all about reputation-I've had several of them express blatant attraction, but unless shitfaced(and even then...) they will quickly rationalize it away as it is not socially acceptable here save for rare occasions.

Troll harder.

If you insist lol (sighs and throws hands up)

[TheWolfHowls]

As a black man(look like a mix of Denzel Washington and Will Smith)....i like girls of all races.

Black Girls-Love how big their lips are and how they have a nice ass. I typically get e/c from them. Haven't had sex with one yet tho surprisingly. Ethiopian girls seem to be the toughest to game even tho they give E/C. Only issue is that i don't see really attractive ones but when I do, i'm on it! Most black girls are just like any other race girls in America, just the ones with attitude i don't like and is a huge turn off. Mixed race girls i like as well. The complexion doesn't matter to me all that much as long as i want to fuck her.

White Girls-I've mostly had sex with them as i've mostly been around predominantly white areas.

Latina Girls-I like them a lot too. They seem to show interest as well.

Asian Girls-I usually like the ones with some tits and ass, and it seems to be those ones who show interest back.

Middle Eastern Girls-I definitely like them alot . They're gorgeous usually. Persian, lebanese, Kazakstani, Armenian and Israeli girls seem to feel me.

Indian Girls-I don't see that many but I don't rule them out, they're some that are full out gorgeous .

I also go for cougars from time to time as its not really age per se, but its just that particular woman i want to fuck and she just so happens to be older lol.

[speakeasy]

Theo, you are spending a lot of time and energy telling black dudes here what they pretty much already know. All you are essentially doing is applying the busted dudes test to black guys in America. I've already argued before that the prospects for black American men wanting to date up is not favorable. By date up I mean date a better looking woman than he is(short of being wealthy or famous), either within his race or outside it. Black women in my observation put more of a premium on male looks than women of other races. I started a thread in depth on this topic in the girls forum. So it's very difficult to date up within our group, and because of the SMP/racism, dating up outside our group(at least in America) is challenging as well. The whole point of this forum and others like it is so guys can learn game so they can get attractive women. We don't need to learn any game to end up with plain Janes and fatties be they black or non-black.

I do see a lot of black guys dating way below what they should be. But to be honest, it's not all. I notice when I see a black dude with a fat whale of a white woman, it's usually an older couple. For the younger set, like age 30 and below, I more commonly see a black guy getting decent white chics. Or at least one that is his match looks-wise. So perhaps the racism in the SMP is slowly dying out with the younger generation. I can say for me that of the white girls I've hooked up with in my life, all but maybe one was at least my equivalent as far as looks. Most were about a 6 on the scale, which is cute, but not a knockout. But then most women probably wouldn't consider me anymore than a 6 either so I wasn't exactly stooping below myself. I've never touched a white fatty.

I also get the feeling that Theo is smitten by the SMP value thing and the bitterness emanating from his post is his way of dealing with it.

[Theogreat]

(08-04-2011 04:45 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Theo, you are spending a lot of time and energy telling black dudes here what they pretty much already know. All you are essentially doing is applying the busted dudes test to black guys in America. I've already argued before that the prospects for black American men wanting to date up is not favorable. By date up I mean date a better looking woman than he is(short of being wealthy or famous), either within his race or outside it. Black women in my observation put more of a premium on male looks than women of other races. I started a thread in depth on this topic in the girls forum. So it's very difficult to date up within our group, and because of the SMP/racism, dating up outside our group(at least in America) is challenging as well. The whole point of this forum and others like it is so guys can learn game so they can get attractive women. We don't need to learn any game to end up with plain Janes and fatties be they black or non-black.

I do see a lot of black guys dating way below what they should be. But to be honest, it's not all. I notice when I see a black dude with a fat whale of a white woman, it's usually an older couple. For the younger set, like age 30 and below, I more commonly see a black guy getting decent white chics. Or at least one that is his match looks-wise. So perhaps the racism in the SMP is slowly dying out with the younger generation. I can say for me that of the white girls I've hooked up with in my life, all but maybe one was at least my equivalent as far as looks. Most were about a 6 on the scale, which is cute, but not a knockout. But then most women probably wouldn't consider me anymore than a 6 either so I wasn't exactly stooping below myself. I've never touched a white fatty.

I also get the feeling that Theo is smitten by the SMP value thing and the bitterness emanating from his post is his way of dealing with it.

Speakeasy,

I agree with a lot what you had to say in your post. I am not bitter about anything its just that a lot of Black men have unrealistic hopes wrt getting with attractive non black women. I am not trying to destroy anyones confidence, I am just trying to keep people from making absolute fool's of themself. So when I read Athalone stating that Black men should play lacrosse, act preppy, and listen to music that they are not into in order to get with a white woman of quality I'm like WTH? Do you know how race works in this country? At this point it is what it is being defensive and denying the truth won't get any one anywhere.

[Giovonny]

These young boys should just move to Jamaica and become "gigolos" !!

White women pay for sex with black dudes over there.

[Hoover]

That Wade troll picture is funny lol.

[oldnemesis]

(08-01-2011 06:51 AM)jariel Wrote:  

All types of women want sex with Black men.

This is a good line to build up your confidence, but this doesn't seem to be the case. It is just because the race doesn't matter to women as much as it matters to men. Just like looks do not matter to women as much as they matter to men (this is why you see a lot of black man - white woman couples, and very few white man - black woman couples).

Just being black might give you a slight advantage (or disadvantage), but it is your overall style, social proof and game which matters much more. So a better line would be that "all types of women want to have sex with men who are confident, well-groomed, and would put effort into getting her - be it money, game or something else".

However there are two notable exceptions:

Quote:

To the poster that asked me if I what I said means Black men will fuck anything: Well to a degree yes. Ethnic men in general just enjoy sex, and IIRC there was a girl on here that once posted that real players are more in it for the pussy than anything else.

I talked to a fat girl in Rome while staying in line to St. Peters, and she basically said that she prefers black men because they're "less judgmental", which translated to "they'll fuck me anyway even if I'm so freaking ugly". I'd guess this is definitely not the case with all of them though; I've seen black dudes with pretty cute white girls. So this is the first exception.

(07-23-2011 03:28 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Why do middle aged white women travel in packs to the Caribbean/West Africa to sleep with young black boys?

This is the second exception. Keep in mind that a lot - if not every - of those women travelers pays for sex (Jamaica is a well-known gigolo heaven), and that male prostitution is quite rare in this world. So this doesn't mean they prefer blacks - it is just because there is not a single country which would have a lot of white/asian/latino men who'd service a middle-aged (and often fugly) foreign chick at her terms (as the payment is involved). She may actually prefer to sleep with young Italian studs, but - too bad for her - young Italian studs don't give shit about middle-aged American chicks, and while it may be possible to find one "for hire", the expenses and effort involved into that process make it impossible for vast majority of female sex travelers.

[rudebwoy]

Well thank god the troll is gone.

Oldnemesis - White middle aged women venture to the Caribbean (Jamaica etc) to pay and sleep with young black men, who for the most part are well-endowed and will give them pleasure they have never had before. Italian stallion is just a myth nothing more, don't kid yourself into thinking these women would prefer those guys. I know in Europe alot of these women will travel to Turkey, Morrocco and of course Western Africa for a good time as well.

[jariel]

(08-04-2011 09:02 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Well thank god the troll is gone.

Oldnemesis - White middle aged women venture to the Caribbean (Jamaica etc) to pay and sleep with young black men, who for the most part are well-endowed and will give them pleasure they have never had before. Italian stallion is just a myth nothing more, don't kid yourself into thinking these women would prefer those guys. I know in Europe alot of these women will travel to Turkey, Morrocco and of course Western Africa for a good time as well.

There was a lot of racist innuendo in his response.

[afronoob]

(08-05-2011 12:57 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 09:02 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Well thank god the troll is gone.

Oldnemesis - White middle aged women venture to the Caribbean (Jamaica etc) to pay and sleep with young black men, who for the most part are well-endowed and will give them pleasure they have never had before. Italian stallion is just a myth nothing more, don't kid yourself into thinking these women would prefer those guys. I know in Europe alot of these women will travel to Turkey, Morrocco and of course Western Africa for a good time as well.

There was a lot of racist innuendo in his response.

Now I see why roosh delibertasely avoids race threads. There's something about interracial dating,especially ww/bm that brings out certain forumers whiny pseudo philosophical bitter inner bitch.

[rudebwoy]

You may think my response was racist but I don't, there are lot of racist innuendo's posted by people on this forum.

I do not rate Italian men period, they have NO game and are lame. There is a reason why they flock to places like Cuba, Brazil and Dom Republic. In Cuba guys were complaining about them b/c they were wining/dining the girls and driving up the standards for pussy. Italian men are very protective of there women and hate to see black guys dating them, there was a famous incident in NYC a few years back when a black kid went to look at a car in a Italian neighbourhood and was killed b/c they thought he was there to see a girl.

I don't grudge any man that likes black girls, all the power to them. In fact I enjoy hearing the travel stories and get a kick out of Roosh's adventures in Poland, I actually felt sorry for him in Denmark.

I think alot of guys here are caught in a bubble and brainwashed. I am alot older, a little more travelled and hopefully a bit wiser. Alot of guys put too much emphasis on looks (not every women wants a Denzel/Brad Pitt look-alike) and material things, then they cannot understand why they cannot meet women.

My point is having travelled to many islands in the Caribbean, I have witnessed "rough" looking black men with decent looking white women (tourists) and they are not all ugly or middle age. These women go for a good time and I am sure you are familiar with the Rent-a-dread concept.
In Scandinavia I have witnessed black guys with girls who I thought were out of there league, but again who am I to determine this. I myself have "dated" girls there that would not give me the time of day back home in Canada/US/UK.
The same could be said for a few other countries which have already been mentioned.
You cannot fully understand how a woman's mind works, look at Seal and Heidi Klum! Alot of you are probably wondering how the heck he got her and you rationalize it by saying he is famous/rich etc. She actually said on a talk show she saw his "package" and wanted to be with him, I guess the rest is history.

Yes it seems alot of people have issues with WW/BM relationships, not really my concern or problem.

[playa_with_a_passport]

(08-03-2011 11:15 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

(08-03-2011 09:54 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

....

There goes the rationalization hamster. How hard is it to say I prefer white women because they are more attractive than black women?

Wow, he’s finally banned, I was wondering what was taking so long. If he was at least dropping the mathematics on where to find the baddest dark skinned sistas in the world then I would have no beef with his “controversial” opinions. Instead he was disruptive, divisived and added zero value to the forum. However, a broken clock is still right twice a day. I agree with him that some Bro’s over here are over analyzing their preference of ‘em girls with that light skin complexion.

It doesn’t make you an Uncle Tom to come out and admit that you have a preference for White women. Just like I never took it personally when Latina tells me "No negros." Latinas are very open about telling you they don't fuck with Black guys as opposed to White chicks who would just let you down gently. If she aint feeling me, she aint feeling me is that simple. I don't need her to come out with wikipedia articles, pie charts and CDC and FBI crime statitics showing me how Black Men are fucked up and that's why she won't give me the pussy.

[Excelsior]

(08-07-2011 01:17 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

However, a broken clock is still right twice a day. I agree with him that some Bro’s over here are over analyzing their preference of ‘em girls with that light skin complexion.

I've decided to just address this post since I have personally been the most outspoken and critical on the subject of black American women and, therefore, am likely the target of this particular criticism. If I'm not, then keep scrolling and ignore this.

The debate has been extensive and has come up in more than one thread. I'm noticing several things about those who oppose me:

1. They never really address the points at hand. Their rebuttals are largely limited to ad-hominems and arguments to tone (read: my personal/character or the way I say things), but they can't seem to challenge any of the actual claims I have made.

Common rebuttals include, but are not limited to:

-"You just prefer white/other women." (A version of this is being used here by pwp. I actually do like black girls, so this is incorrect. I don't discriminate racially.)
-"That's just your opinion." (An easy way cop out without the need to logically justify your disagreement)
-"Some black woman just hurt you." (Most commonly delivered by women, but sometimes men as well. Standard shaming tactic-prior relationships are irrelevant to the merits of the points at hand)
-"You haven't dealt with classy black women" (Intl. Swag threw this one out there. Ad-hominem and entirely untrue-I've been exposed to plenty of them at my school)

None of these actually involve a logical deconstruction of my points, which is very telling.

2. They skew the context of the debate in order to make their ad-hominems and arguments to tone easier to apply, usually over-simplifying my argument.
For instance: My particular criticism has been very specificly targeted.

Most(not all) Black American females, aged 40 and under(roughly my generation and the tail end of the one just prior), raised primarily in the USA.

My opponents/critics have responded by taking my rather specifically targeted critique and trying to claim that it indicates a mere revulsion of black women or an overwhelming preference for white women.

But how could that be? By targeting my criticism as I have (and I have been VERY CLEAR about who I'm talking about), I'm essentially excluding over 97% of the world's black female population from the discussion. I'm also excluding every generation of black American women prior to my own and the one immediately before that(that would be the vast majority of black american women who lived before my time).

Furthermore, I have gone on the record as stating that black women outside of the specific category I have outlined (under 40, american) are not subject to any of my criticism.

If this were really an issue of racial preference on my part and not a legitimate, objective sociological observation, why would I be so specific? If my problem is with black women in general for just being black women, then wouldn't I open things up a bit more? Taking 97% of a given population out of the equation would seem a bit counter-productive if one is merely expressing a simple dislike for members of that entire population, correct?

Furthermore, why would I limit my critique to intangible/malleable qualities (attitude, materialism, obesity, etc) that are largely not genetic and/or permanent? It would be one thing if I were focusing on traits that were racially specific to black women(example: very dark skin) and could not be altered. Instead, I'm talking about things that can not only be changed depending on culture/circumstance, but that are also unrelated to genes and can exist in any race.

You, as many other black males here have attempted to do, have proceeded to over simplify my argument, claiming that all I have been doing is "over analyzing their[my] preference of ‘em girls with that light skin complexion".

This, as I have shown, is a rather disingenuous and inaccurate claim to make. It not only mis-represents my arguments in a completely illogical fashion, but it dismisses them without making any attempt to address them.
Its a simple ad-hominem, a mere logical fallacy.

As I have said before, those who think that I am incorrect in my statements regarding black American women are free to prove me wrong. Challenge the points I've made and break them down logically and I'd be happy to accept the result if it can be shown to be more accurate. I welcome the opposition, because so far I have yet to really see it (save for perhaps one instance).

Everything else is just a cop out.

Quote:

It doesn’t make you an Uncle Tom to come out and admit that you have a preference for White women.

Another false dichotomy.

Who says I care whether or not I am labelled an Uncle Tom? That does not factor into my particular thought process, so any suggestion that I would conjure an entire theory simply to avoid this label is inherently tenuous.

Quote:

Just like I never took it personally when Latina tells me "No negros." Latinas are very open about telling you they don't fuck with Black guys as opposed to White chicks who would just let you down gently. If she aint feeling me, she aint feeling me is that simple. I don't need her to come out with wikipedia articles, pie charts and CDC and FBI crime statitics showing me how Black Men are fucked up and that's why she won't give me the pussy.

A final false assumption: you assume here that one who is critical of black american women (or any other specific ethnic/cultural group) is quite opposed to fucking them (as the latinas in your anecdotes were) and cannot maintain any sexual attraction for them.

I have maintained sexual relationships with many black American women and continue to do so. I find them fairly easy to attract, which is unsurprising given my physique.
None of my critique is motivated by a lack sexual/physical attraction to black females as a whole, nor a lack of success with them. I've done better with them than any other group as far as gaining sexual access goes.

Such a situation does not preclude objectively negative sociological critiques. Plenty of men here dislike American or [Insert specific city, nation or locale here] women and still hook up with them.

What's the issue here anyway, playa? Judging from this particular quote...

(06-09-2011 03:33 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

So since most Black women are obese, you are right, chances are that most Black women have hoodrat tendencies.

...you largely agree with me.

[oldnemesis]

(08-04-2011 09:02 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Oldnemesis - White middle aged women venture to the Caribbean (Jamaica etc) to pay and sleep with young black men, who for the most part are well-endowed and will give them pleasure they have never had before.

Yeah, this may be the case - however seeing quite a lot of them around in Hedonism II in Jamaica I was quite surprised as none of black guys there were what I'd consider "well-endowed". Even my wife was surprised how small they actually were.

From numerous lifestyle clubs and events we have visited there are a few interesting conclusions:
- A "black guys have larger/longer cocks" is a myth. Most are average following the bell curve.
- An "asian guys have small cocks" is also a myth. Again, most are average following the bell curve.

So the "well-endowed" part is questionable for me. However the "pleasure they never had before" part is indeed the case, as at least some of those women would never had a chance to fuck a young dude, or actually a dude, so this may be the case.

Quote:

Italian stallion is just a myth nothing more, don't kid yourself into thinking these women would prefer those guys. I know in Europe alot of these women will travel to Turkey, Morrocco and of course Western Africa for a good time as well.

No, those are different. I never heard of anyone paying Turkish or Egyptian guys for sex., while in Jamaica it is basically expected.