[TheDuncan]

Recently I have met this 35 year old milf, shes hot and I want to smash, I chilled with her and tried escalating but she put up some defences, saying that im moving too fast and that since im young all I want is sex.

Im 26 so whenever I mess with a 20-25 year old being an asshole and funny is natural to me and I get them easy, do I have to dub this down a lot with older women? At first she laughed a lot but I picked up that the jokes and rudeness (in a funny way) was getting old for her.

I honestly have little experince with chicks in their 30's, any tips?

[Latan]

Don't let her put her frame.
If she says you must wait to smash an old cock rider, answer young women don't make you wait, so you won't.

She keeps saying no?
Leave, she'll contact you if she changes her mind, overwise next her.

[IAmAlpha504]

I would suggest u dub it down a bit as, to women like her, it could come across as not genuine. Being in my early 30's, I've realized how in some ways I've become more stubborn/stuck in my ways and when dealing with women within this age range cocky & arrogant are less valued than confidence and being resolute.

[TheDuncan]

It got me thinking, with young girls texting them often, showing them a ton of attention, being sweet and romantic is a total pussy killer, asshole game always wins, with older women would the opposite work?

Would me texting her how her day was, being kind and complimenting, being polite and giving her compliments work in my favor? The thought of that makes me feel weird, makes me feel like im gonna turn into some beta nice guy.

[IAmAlpha504]

It could work better than trying what you've been doing to women who range 20-25 on a 35 yr old. Not completely abandoning Alpha frame, incorporating some "beta" aspects should yield a more positive result if ur open to being with more older women.

[WestIndianArchie]

You're falling into her frame.

Make her feel young, and she acts young.

WIA

[Cattle Rustler]

Tell her what she wants to hear but guilt trip her at the same time. Tell her something like "I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't have time to waste and want a relationship. Accusing me of stuff like that makes you sound immature and judgmental".

They will go hamster trying to prove themselves they are more mature because they are "older" and will get offended (in a good way) because of the judgmental comment. She will try to convince you she's not. Watch her go into "denialism" mode.

She doesn't want a relationship at all, she knows she wants your dick, but she needs to be rationalize this into "I'm not a slut". She wants an excuse to fuck you, and if you tell her a lie (she knows this) to appeal to her hamster, you'll get the bang.

Also, read this:
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[XPQ22]

Gaming women in their 30s is probably going to be significantly easier for you coming from your 20s I'd guess. Many women in their 30s are (and will sometimes tell you this straight up) running parallel tracks - looking to squeeze the last few fun experiences out of the cock carousel while simultaneously hunting around for a LTR that they'll make wait for it.

This is a pisser for a guy in his 30s because if you seem at all attractive, successful, and intelligent they start binning you into "possible husband material" and doing that "The Rules" shit to see what they can pull from you.

And yes, for women in their 30s you definitely have to dial the "player" aspect way back and turn up the "vulnerability" aspect. You're a sensitive guy, made some mistakes in your youth and ran with the wrong crowd, but you've shaped up and are in the process of getting it together, that sort of thing. Don't hit them too hard with the "qualification" stuff either - they get wounded easily if they get the impression you don't think they're special.

You don't have to compliment them though. Just kind of staying in confident "elderly chat" mode has worked for me.

Easiest girls to game in their 30s: single moms, divorcees, feminists who don't want kids, poly chicks, girls who are in some "alternative" subculture (EDM fans, hippy stoners), girls in the fetish scene, suburban prole girls in the sevice industry or healthcare, ethnic girls.

Never-married urban college-educated SWPL white girls are the hardest.

[IAmAlpha504]

Solid advice XPQ22

There's an abundance of those alternative subculture types where I live now...

[XPQ22]

^ as far as I can recall pretty much all the success I've had from girls in their 30s were in those categories. I didn't always get the bang, but at least I can be pretty sure it's on the table, even if they're 35.

Meanwhile I've got two more sad offers of Thursday afternoon coffee dates with mid-30s white girls from the city in my online mailbox. They've just been sitting there all day because I know they won't reschedule to a bar, it's a long drive, and I ain't know what to do with them.

The weathers been getting kind of nice though, maybe I'll go for my "escalate in the park" tactic.

The great thing about getting the interest of a 30 something as 20 something is that it's so obvious ( but not explicity stated) that it's about sex with the 10 year age difference. Probably why in my mid 30s I get a lot of interest and a lot of flakes from women in their mid 40s - same deal.

[LeeEnfield303]

Quote:

This is a pisser for a guy in his 30s because if you seem at all attractive, successful, and intelligent they start binning you into "possible husband material" and doing that "The Rules" shit to see what they can pull from you.

Often because they are ignorant of the SMV chart....since they are in the twilight of their carousel days and looking to 'grab' someone, they mistakenly think 30ish guys are in the same sinking boat.

That 30ish guys have many more options than they do usually comes as a tremendous shock.

[TornadoByProxy]

I don't understand why anyone in their 20s would be gaming older women. Are they afraid to approach the 20-something hotties? You'd really rather a 35 woman to a 21? You on drugs?
You've got your whole life to game 30-somethings. WTF are you wasting your youth?

[Cattle Rustler]

^^^ drop a datasheet or something instead of complaining. More bishes for all us us that way. There are some nasty ass hos in their 20s.

[TornadoByProxy]

Delete

[RatInTheWoods]

Milfs be the best!

They don't yell
They don't tell
They don't swell
and they are as grateful as hell.

[Sidney Crosby]

Don't overthink things, when I was 19 I banged a girl that was probably around 40 (never asked)

I was rubbing her inner thigh at a table full of people, afterwords. I pulled her in the direction of my place and she said "you want to fuck me?" Kind of surprised, I said "ya" and banged her out a few times then after she took a taxi home late at night back to her husband (who she probably never bangs) and kids

Got to blast inside and then she left, nothing wrong with older women, Obviously the shiny new car is usually preferred but with the older ones it can be like Barry Bonds playing t-ball, no foul balls, getting walked or steroid accusations..... just crushing homers and not even worrying about touching all the bases.

No asterisks next to the bangs either

[Rush87]

Women in their thirties are desperately trying to denying the wall and by smashing them [As a younger guy], you're perpetuating that belief. That being said, more often than not, the above sentence is your answer. They are wall deniers. They want to pretend that a 35 year old is just as desirable as a 25 year old. She isn't but… Treat her as you would a twenty year old and you will get into her panties on the first night.

[Leonard Bernstein]

Don't.

Thank me later.

[N°6]

(05-09-2016 09:04 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

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This is a pisser for a guy in his 30s because if you seem at all attractive, successful, and intelligent they start binning you into "possible husband material" and doing that "The Rules" shit to see what they can pull from you.

Often because they are ignorant of the SMV chart....since they are in the twilight of their carousel days and looking to 'grab' someone, they mistakenly think 30ish guys are in the same sinking boat.

That 30ish guys have many more options than they do usually comes as a tremendous shock.

If you are finding women over 30 on the Internet, then they will be fairly oblivious to their SMV because they still get more messages than men of all age groups.

The older woman thing is Internet-driven.

Internet dating started like this in the 90s:

*College age man joins dating site, quickly taps out the supply of local women round his age;

*Search distance and age search both widen until there is a SMV match and he gets replies to his mails. They tend to come from older women whom he begins to consider to be more friendly, confident and chatty.

This match tends to occur with an older woman online. I recally calculating the average of all the women who contacted me first and it was 4-5 years older.

It is interesting that Tomassi; the man who produced the SMV chart advises young men to avoid the internet and older women.

[articulatecool]

(05-08-2016 10:45 AM)Latan Wrote:  

She keeps saying no?
Leave, she'll contact you if she changes her mind, overwise next her.

Actually, this happened to me with a 34 year old Korean dentist. I dropped her after sensing too much resistance of letting me visit her place. She didn't like that I jokingly invited myself over to watch a movie. I "nexted" her and I get a text from her months later asking how I've been doing.

I finally visited her nice home, but we never got around to watching a movie.